My favourite is how they always end with something like "that is the last I have to say on the matter", which never happens.
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My favourite is how they always end with something like "that is the last I have to say on the matter", which never happens.
The real irony here is causing trouble by misinterpreting someone's words is jihadist tactics.
Whats with the Paranoia?
"Posters disagree with another poster and reply" Shock horror...
Should I be upset that at least the same number of people are replying back to me in disagreement (including yourself)? Oh dear lord, I think I am having one of those coordinated attacks against me! I had better cry about it...
Between the outrage of using "Jihadist" as word in a post, we're distracting from the real issue of racists, bigots, nationalists, Trump, USA, and the needless killing of an innocent lady. Let's get this thread back on track, please.
It'd be a better use of your time.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with Pogue's post at all, he made no attempt to lay any blame at Islam, nor did he even mention it, rather he was pointing out the obvious irony on display from the dumb feck redneck responsible for this incident.
You and the other few usual names came in and twisted it completely into something else in an attempt to paint him as something he's clearly not. You're also bringing up previous incidents where you've collectively done the exact same thing as some bizarre attempted justification for it.
You have consistently missed the point of what people are saying and instead decided to twist words into something else in order to go on the defensive and accuse people of attacking Islam when it's not happened.
You really need to take a step back and read things carefully before wading in.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoe...tesville-crash?utm_term=.mtMbRZZQw#.ogBD9PP17
The guy who allegedly did it. His facebook page includes Pepe, swastikas, a baby portrait of Hitler etc.
A reminder that there are guys like him who are being radicalised on message boards as we speak.
The guy who allegedly did it. His facebook page includes Pepe, swastikas, a baby portrait of Hitler etc.
A reminder that there are guys like him who are being radicalised on message boards as we speak.
Apologies Sultan I only saw this after submitting my last post. You're absolutely right, I just felt it was unfair for someone to be labelled in such an incorrect way based on a total twisting of words.
Aren't these tensions between poor white people and poor black people in America simply a consequence of the lack of social security and opportunity for those disadvantaged demographics in the USA?
Speak for yourself.
English is my 2nd language and I got what Pogue said perfectly well, as is the case with the majority of people in this thread. Just because you and a few others are hypersensitive to any and all mention of Jihad doesnt make what he said in anyway controversial, obscure or inflammatory.
The need to see insults and agenda behind every innocuous deed or action isnt going to help your cause.
Pogue might be a bit tone deaf on occasions regarding social issues, I grant you, but he's not ill intentioned.
Top post.
I was baffled by these reactions to Pogue's post, where the irony seemed clear to me, until someone mentioned something about another thread. Then it made sense why they posted. Take it back to the other thread, lads.
Back to this... Sessions responds:
Back to this... Sessions responds:
So a racist elf with form for supporting legislation oppressing minorities has the more appropriate response to racists than POTUS
Once in a while, you are reminded of the Bizarro world we are living in.
The president of the United States believes calling out Nazis will hurt him politically.
Just imagine that?
Just imagine that?
Jesus Christ, next thing we know Steve Bannon is going to release a stronger statement condemning racists than Trump.
Sessions speaking against racism, bloody hell.
You've contributed to this you fecking Nazi Elf.
You've contributed to this you fecking Nazi Elf.
Very often i disagree with @Pogue Mahone, but bizarre overreaction to his post in this thread. I saw nothing wrong or malicious in it
Reading 4chan and r/the Donald is pretty depressing, people celebrating the violence that caused the death of a young woman, false equivalency everywhere and the spreading of rumours that this was a leftist plot to make Neo Nazis look bad (Because being a Neo Nazi doesn't look bad already).
Sadly this pernicious undercurrent of society seems to have been empowered by the victory of Trump and propelled them further into the forefront than they ever deserve, despite the fact I don't think they are representative of his supporters or him as a whole. There now needs to be leadership from the White House to calm tensions and disassociate itself from these groups, I'm not holding out much hope of it happening.
Sadly this pernicious undercurrent of society seems to have been empowered by the victory of Trump and propelled them further into the forefront than they ever deserve, despite the fact I don't think they are representative of his supporters or him as a whole. There now needs to be leadership from the White House to calm tensions and disassociate itself from these groups, I'm not holding out much hope of it happening.
So a racist elf with form for supporting legislation oppressing minorities has the more appropriate response to racists than POTUS
Once in a while, you are reminded of the Bizarro world we are living in.
Yes but...... and a bit of a stretch here, though not much.... if you were of the white supremacist persuasion, you could probably twist that statement in your mind to mean racial bigotry as BLM etc against them....
That's the difficult part in this. We can't simply allow these type of things to fester when we know they are breeding grounds for Nazis and murderers. We would rightly clamp down on jihadi message boards and arrest those who participate in them.
I get the argument of people being hesitant about government intervention in what constitutes actionable/violent/illegal but there are genuinely plenty of people on the right and the centre who are so outraged by college campuses, "SJW's" and "PC gone mad" that they paint criticism of the alt-right as hyperbole. When what we have seen is that right wing rhetoric that has been mainstreams and amplified post-Trump is incredibly dangerous and something we should more seriously.
Reddit is due a clean up. Lots of nasty subreddits filled with tacit/open approval of racism and violence. There's a thread on the front page right now calling for a boycott until they shut down the Donald.
Absolutely. He has shown no qualms associating himself with those people for his own benefit since running for president. When it comes to racism, hate crimes etc., intent is secondary, what matters is practise. And as you say, it's pretty obvious what he's doing.
When I look at the photos and videos of the car again, it's horrifying to think how many more people he would have killed if there hadn't already been a car in that street from him to tailend and make him stop.
They'll just move to 4chan which is notably more extreme
I'd hate to be seen to be defending Trump even tepidly, but AntiFa have been showing up to these right wing marches with weapons and using them for months now so he's not wrong when he says "from all sides" or however he phrased it.
On a day when a woman has been murdered by a right wing extremist it's very poor of him not to single that faction out but it was only a matter of time before someone on one side or the other was killed, especially with consistent reports of police being ordered to stand down.
On a day when a woman has been murdered by a right wing extremist it's very poor of him not to single that faction out but it was only a matter of time before someone on one side or the other was killed, especially with consistent reports of police being ordered to stand down.
Maybe it's just the use of the word, but personally I use it for freely to denote extremists irrespective of religion. We have Hindu Jihadis in India, neo Nazi Jihadis in West etc. I have the misfortune of knowing a couple of people who tacitly 'don't disapprove' of such bigotry and I frequently argue with them that they are not different from the people they try to fight against.
We evidently do have a fundamental misunderstanding going on. On your part. The "jihadist" attacks I mentioned were in reference to what happened in London, Paris, Brussels, Nice etc. Surely that's obvious?
This white supremacy stuff is equally malevolent but obviously couldn't be described using that same word.
Sorry. Just seen this. I'll shut up now.
I missed Soros in it
Absolutely nothing wrong with using the adjective jihadi to describe groups like Hamas, PIJ and ISIS, or some of the tactics which have become uniquely associated with and sanctioned by them. It's how they describe themselves. No different from describing the IRA as Irish Nationalist or Republican, even though we all recognise that militantism represents only a minority strand in the Irish nationalist movement.
Well done for once. Better than Trump.
Don't really get what you mean and why you see the need for rolleyes. Can you elaborate?I missed Soros in it
The retweet is still there.
Yes they are. This is a man who ran on banning Muslims from the US, who slandered Mexicans as murderers and rapists and who boasted about sexually asssaulting women. These cnunts are EXACTLY representative of him and his supporters as a whole.
Indeed
Has Trump offered to pay the guy's legal fees yet?
I'm going to make this as unequivocally as possible.
Anyone who voted for Trump is either a racist, or doesn't care that he's a racist.
There is no room for grey areas here, and we need to stop accommodating for those who ride the fence of ignoring intolerance.
Trump has made his position absolutely clear both during the election campaign, the Muslim ban, and selectively choosing not to condemn the white supremacists for what they are.
Are YOU really going to accuse me of co-ordinating an attack??? Really?????
I've heard it all now.
Where did he accuse you? In the part you quoted he mentioned no coordinator.