His post match comments :
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/31/antonio-conte-chelsea-tottenham
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/31/antonio-conte-chelsea-tottenham
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Chelsea 2017/18 thread - FA Cup Champs, League chumps
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Fair comment to be honest, I mean he isn't lying.
He's not, but he's directly pointing the blame to the board without twisting it around, is my point.
Those were pre-match, from the press conference yesterday (even the article has yesterdays date on it).
Missed it, ok, still worth discussion though.
You should really at least read the article before posting it!
Did you actually know that why I posted the comments before asking ? Not like I'm blaming him for excuses but the point is he's directly the blame for the board for the signings without twisting it. He mentioned important players leaving and getting inexperienced ones. Clearly a criticism for the board. He had done it the whole season now it shouldn't be a surprise for you.
You posted it because you thought it was his post-game comments. You didn't read the article because, well, feck knows.
It's not a surprise to me. It's the natural order of things! Win the league, do shit, win the league, do shit.
And the board are the main culprit of that, even if I agree that the manager did many mistakes as well. Do you disagree ?
Spurs have added Sanchez(who has been good) and Aurier(who hasn't) I think the difference between them and Spurs this season comes down to their managers. Poch has adapted the tactics when they had important players out and Conte has not really found his best 11 or system like he did last season.
The main culprit? You make it sound like they've done a bad job these last few years.
Do you think you'll be challenging next season? This 'shit' slump seems a bit harder to sort out, especially if hazard buggers off for bigger things
Who knows. Maybe! Nobody thought we would challenge last season and we pissed the league. People thought we would challenge this season and we've been nowhere near.
Yes they did. The fact that you don't see it is actually strange.
The only top signing Chelsea made the last 3 years was Kante and getting Luiz back. The rest were ranging from pretty bad to average but hardworking. The last impressive summer Chelsea had was when they got Costa and Fabre. The rest were pretty meh, even in Conte's first summer only Kante and Luiz standout.
This feels a bit different, for Chelsea. I can't think of any stand-out candidates to replace Conte, plus Hazard and Courtois will probably leave in the summer. They'll have to replace both with no CL to offer. Could be the start of a few barren years, I reckon.
We've won the league 2 our of the past 3 seasons. That's not a bad job by any metric you want to use.
AS for transfers, far too early to judge the likes of Emerson, Barkley and Zapa. I'm pretty pleased with Giroud, Drinkwater and Rudiger. Baka has been shite of course, no doubting that.
What's the general "feel" among Chelsea fans, do they want Conte out asap?
The last season Mourinho won the league was actually due to the last big summer Chelsea had when they got Fabre and Costa. The season Conte I believe was a big overachievement from Conte and his players imo, more of a freak season than anything.
That's the problem. You shouldn't be happy with these kind of signings. I would be pretty underwhelmed if we get connected to Giroud or Drinkwater.
Nah. Certainly not my family or friends anyway. I'm sure you can go onto Twitter and find some who want him gone though.
Most realise we can't compete with you lot and Man City when it comes to transfers anymore.
This is to be expected. Chelsea have not suddenly gone shit. The problem is you have six teams going for one position and only four can get into the CL. That means two have to lose out. They will bounce back next season.
Who could we have signed instead? We tried for Lukaku and that didn't work. We tried for Dzeko and he didn't want to come. Who else should we have gone for given the money we can spend?
We can't spend like you or Man City anymore. I'm not moaning about that fact but it's also why I'm not moaning about signing the likes of Giroud or Drinkwater.
Bakayoko is the only bad signing we've made and that was not because it was an unambitious move.
He's gone. Wrong move imo.
Problem is not with the manager but with the backing of him.
Their summer signings were very underwhelming, considering that they're champions. Also, remember how aggressive Chelsea were in the early Abramovich era? I guess the times have changed. Back in the day 150 would have bought you a new team now it gets you Coutinho.
No disrespect to Coutinho by the way.
Problem is not with the manager but with the backing of him.
Their summer signings were very underwhelming, considering that they're champions. Also, remember how aggressive Chelsea were in the early Abramovich era? I guess the times have changed. Back in the day 150 would have bought you a new team now it gets you Coutinho.
No disrespect to Coutinho by the way.
All of your signings were very underwhelming. I agree that you cannot compete like you use to but selling Ake, RLC etc were bad descions too.
And I'm not sure what the feck happened with Costa.
Was paying for Lukaku, Dzeko or any top player need funds on City level ? If the board is unwilling to spend heavily then it's the board problem. Yes you can't spend on the same level as City but at the same time you should have far enough funds to bring very good and top players like the rest of the top teams are doing.
Losing Lukaku in this way should make you furious with the board actually.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-press-conference-antonio-conte-a8284286.html
@duffer Well, here he's repeating the same quote of the pre match so that you don't get mad at me.
We didn't sell RLC. I'd have kept Ake.
Costa (love him!) was a maniac who wanted to go back to Spain from the second he signed for us, you didn't notice? You can always tell how committed a player is by the effort they put in to learn the language. Costa can't even say Diego in English.
Lukaku chose Man United. Dzeko didn't want to sign as a back up. Neither were the fault of the board.
Yeah, maybe you can't compete with City or us for some players but the current situation with Chelsea's transfers is weird and reminds me of LVG's transfer windows where we have clearly chosen quantity over quality. It didn't work out very well because ultimately you get a squad filled with mediocre players. Chelsea bought Barkley, Drinkwater, Giroud, Emerson but all of them can barely get any game time. It's like £80m, for that you can get a world class player.
That's all fine lad but you didn't have to tell him he was surplus to requirements before you got a worthy replacement. Didn't Conte say he wasn't wanted via a text?
I'd have kept RLC too and not have signed Barkley. Concentrated on solidifying the squad instead of selling Matic to a rival and then signing DD and Baka. Got to say a lot of blame has to go to your board. And competing with City, United doesn't really have much to do with it.
You were connected with Lukaku for god knows how, then we entered the negotiation and wrapped him for no time, then Chelsea came with a strange offer after everything was done to show that they tried. If you're not furious with how this signing went on then nothing will make you furious I believe.
The damage was done several months ago, and there's a handful of matches left to be played. Need to chalk the rest of the season off and play some of the youngsters.
Come the summer it'll be a different story. Not sure I want Enrique as his replacement though.
No one wanted him back. As bad as the last two transfer windows have been, missing out on Lukaku was a bullet dodged as far as i'm concerned, he's not good enough. Morata is a better player and i'm confident he'll end up showing it in the near future, whether that's with us or elsewhere.
Subbed off his high profile striker for a 17 year old, that was probably just to people in the board room off. Conte i think will be sacked the day it becomes mathematically impossible to get 4th. Think he fecked up with costa and since then the failed lukaku signing has ended him. Morata was never good enough to be the numer one signing for any top 4 club.
The text thing was a nothing story. He was gone before that happened, Costa just used it to have a few weeks more on the beach in Brazil.
And we didn't sell Matic and then sign Baka, it was the other way around lad.
Think chelsea being champions and lukaku being a fan made them a little too comfortable. We did similar with ramsey.
Disaster season.
They could still win the FA Cup...
Chelsea have done really well to win the league twice in the recent past. It gives them some breathing space to turn things around. The pressure on them to win the title isn't nearly as much as that on Utd(or arsenal).
Neither of us knows how the transfer was actually conducted other than just speculation. If you believe that nothing will make me furious if this does not, I am amused (thank you, after losing at home to Spurs I needed a chuckle).
For all the ability Hazard has got, he still hasn't consistently performed at a world class level for two years in a row.
You're really deluding yourself. Good luck with that.