Chelsea 2021/22 - World and European Champions

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Updated from Transfermarkt, now added Zappacosta

Abraham £36m
Tomori £26.28m
Guehi £21m
Zappacosta £8.5m
Livramento £5.31m
Ugbo £5m
Moses £4.5m
Bate £1.58m
Simeu £1.58m
Miles Peart Harris £1.35m
Ekwah £1.26m
Giroud £0.9m

Emerson Loan Fee
Batshuayi Loan Fee
Kenedy Loan Fee
Gilmour Loan Fee


Total £113.26m + Add ons and Loan Fees. Zouma rumoured to be close to a £30m move to West Ham pending personal terms getting sorted
That is excellent business. Bet we won't sell Martial and Lingard for the sort of fees those first three went for.

Better to keep holding on till they're largely forgotten footballers
 
Updated from Transfermarkt, now added Zappacosta

Abraham £36m
Tomori £26.28m
Guehi £21m
Zappacosta £8.5m
Livramento £5.31m
Ugbo £5m
Moses £4.5m
Bate £1.58m
Simeu £1.58m
Miles Peart Harris £1.35m
Ekwah £1.26m
Giroud £0.9m

Emerson Loan Fee
Batshuayi Loan Fee
Kenedy Loan Fee
Gilmour Loan Fee


Total £113.26m + Add ons and Loan Fees. Zouma rumoured to be close to a £30m move to West Ham pending personal terms getting sorted

Final year of his contract, not a bad amount to sell him for. I really hope we're done with these weird squad filler signings who clearly aren't good enough but are happy to come and sit on our bench. We paid over £20m for that guy 4 years ago.
 
Final year of his contract, not a bad amount to sell him for. I really hope we're done with these weird squad filler signings who clearly aren't good enough but are happy to come and sit on our bench. We paid over £20m for that guy 4 years ago.

I agree, we have a very good young squad now, we should only be signing players who go straight into the first eleven. We have the depth in abundance.
 
Their underlying stats look great since Tuchel took over.

Taking yesterday as an example, Lukaku had the highest xG of any player in the PL this weekend. Meanwhile their xG conceded yesterday would see them expected to concede just 1 goal every three games.

Obviously they were "just" playing Arsenal. But then most of the teams they'll face in the league are as bad or worse than Arsenal. And if they're consistently creating such high standard of chances against them while conceding so few (which they have been) then that's a hell of a platform for them to build on.
 
Unfortunately cannot see past them at the moment to win the thing,

They look very strong and i feel they will still add probably Kounde to that team, really impressed by how Chelsea go about their business, great structure it seems in place, i think we look to be on the right track to improving ours which is positive but we need to get better at selling players and stop handing out contract extensions to deadwood
 
Their depth is insane, that'll be key to them winning it this year. Yesterday they had Kepa, Silva, Kante, Werner, Chalobah, Zouma, Hudson-Odoi, Chilwell and Ziyech on the bench ffs!
 
Sick of the Chelsea love in already. Don't mind the 4-5 Chelsea fans on here but fecking hell don't forget they're basically an oil club.

It's a long season nonetheless and I wouldn't be surprised if Tuchel is gone by January 2023 based on Chelsea's boom bust cycle.
 
He's class. Still needs to work on the defensive side, but going forward he's a real danger.

Badly exposed defensively. Hope Klopp was watching carefully. Him and TAA need a lot to learn, but with TAA he's had a head start due to media exposure and the way teams used to target him. Reece is at the start of that stage. Offensively, I've got Reece in my FF for a reason and boy has he paid dividends this week!! :D
 
Badly exposed defensively. Hope Klopp was watching carefully. Him and TAA need a lot to learn, but with TAA he's had a head start due to media exposure and the way teams used to target him. Reece is at the start of that stage. Offensively, I've got Reece in my FF for a reason and boy has he paid dividends this week!! :D

I almost did and then decided against it because I was expecting him to get rotated a lot with Azpi. Cursing myself. :lol:
 
Apparently West Ham have agreed to a £25m deal for Kurt Zouma. I was expecting a little more than that but cool, that's a decent enough fee.
 
Apparently West Ham have agreed to a £25m deal for Kurt Zouma. I was expecting a little more than that but cool, that's a decent enough fee.
Zouma very good servant for the club but look like tuchel simply ruthless in his way of dealing with players. Good luck Kurt happy zouma. Leaving us as a champion of europe.
 
I don’t think so. Let me ask you a question. Who do you think is their best player?

Team depth and a really strong manager is better than relying on a few superstars. I like that our greatest feature is how they play as a unit.
 
Team depth and a really strong manager is better than relying on a few superstars. I like that our greatest feature is how they play as a unit.

I think if you look at the teams that win the title, they usually (NOT ALWAYS, before people start peppering me with outlier exceptions……) have an outstanding attacking player (recent champions have had guys like Salah, DeBruyne, Hazard etc). I don’t see that player in Chelsea’s current team. I don’t think Lukaku is that player, good as he is.

The league is a totally different beast from the Champions League.
 
I think the top 4 are so close this year, it will be the team with the least amount of injuries.
 
Zouma leaving means we are definitely bringing in Kounde. I love Zouma but I think Jules us a better fit for our formation plus he's excelled in a two man defence system as well so should be no problem at all shoult we revert back to that in the (looking likely) distant future managerial change.
What we really need however is a decent backup for Rudiger in the LCB role. Maybe Alonso can do a decent job there as well with Chilwell at LWB? I'd love to see that dynamic. Our team is so stack with versatile players it's so refreshing.
 
I think if you look at the teams that win the title, they usually (NOT ALWAYS, before people start peppering me with outlier exceptions……) have an outstanding attacking player (recent champions have had guys like Salah, DeBruyne, Hazard etc). I don’t see that player in Chelsea’s current team. I don’t think Lukaku is that player, good as he is.

The league is a totally different beast from the Champions League.

So who would you have as favourites?
 
I think if you look at the teams that win the title, they usually (NOT ALWAYS, before people start peppering me with outlier exceptions……) have an outstanding attacking player (recent champions have had guys like Salah, DeBruyne, Hazard etc). I don’t see that player in Chelsea’s current team. I don’t think Lukaku is that player, good as he is.

The league is a totally different beast from the Champions League.
That's true, but considering that Chelsea has some very talented players it is absolutely possible that some of them do step up this season and become that outstanding player. If that happens Chelsea has a good chance to win the league, but I do also think that they depend on that, if the attacking players stay as wasteful as they were last season it will be nothing more than a safe top four finish.
 
That is two starting PL teams.



Second team isn't as great, not sure there are many teams that would start Loftus Cheek in the league and I am pretty sure all of them wouldn't want Kepa with his shot stopping stats.
 
I think if you look at the teams that win the title, they usually (NOT ALWAYS, before people start peppering me with outlier exceptions……) have an outstanding attacking player (recent champions have had guys like Salah, DeBruyne, Hazard etc). I don’t see that player in Chelsea’s current team. I don’t think Lukaku is that player, good as he is.

The league is a totally different beast from the Champions League.

Not true. De Bruyne also had David Silva and Aguero and even Sterling as players that put in decent numbers. Hazard had Diego Costa, for as crazy as he was, he was a beast. But that’s also doing disservice to Fabregas etc. Salah doesn’t have the ability to win a game on his own. He can score but he isn’t a hazard/Messi where he can ruin 5 players with skill and score a solo worldie.

All teams that win the league compete as a team. Not just 11 players but all 20-odd. This is the real truth. From that squad you might have a standout for the season, I won’t argue with that, but 1 player won’t win you anything if you concede more than you score.
 
What a team they are with a world class coach. Cant wait to see the unstoppable force vs the immovable object next week. VVD is comfortably the best centre back in the world right now and Lukaku is arguably the most in form striker.

Prediction- 1-1
Salah
Lukaku
 
Not true. De Bruyne also had David Silva and Aguero and even Sterling as players that put in decent numbers. Hazard had Diego Costa, for as crazy as he was, he was a beast. But that’s also doing disservice to Fabregas etc. Salah doesn’t have the ability to win a game on his own. He can score but he isn’t a hazard/Messi where he can ruin 5 players with skill and score a solo worldie.

All teams that win the league compete as a team. Not just 11 players but all 20-odd. This is the real truth. From that squad you might have a standout for the season, I won’t argue with that, but 1 player won’t win you anything if you concede more than you score.

Chelsea do not have a standout top class creative player. That will hurt them in the long run IMO. No point arguing now, we’ll just have to wait and see how the season shakes out.
I am not sure, Kante maybe, Why?

Where is their special creator (or creators)? Kante is great, but he does a different job.
 
Second team isn't as great, not sure there are many teams that would start Loftus Cheek in the league and I am pretty sure all of them wouldn't want Kepa with his shot stopping stats.

Loftus Cheek started at Fulham last year.
 
That's true, but considering that Chelsea has some very talented players it is absolutely possible that some of them do step up this season and become that outstanding player. If that happens Chelsea has a good chance to win the league, but I do also think that they depend on that, if the attacking players stay as wasteful as they were last season it will be nothing more than a safe top four finish.

Can’t disagree with anything you’ve said there. Will be interesting to see how they progress. They caught people by surprise in the CL last season when everyone underestimated them. They don’t have that luxury anymore.
 
Chelsea do not have a standout top class creative player. That will hurt them in the long run IMO. No point arguing now, we’ll just have to wait and see how the season shakes out.

Where is their special creator (or creators)? Kante is great, but he does a different job.

Mount was second in shot-creating actions last year in the PL behind only Bruno - 168 to 163. Ziyech and Mount were 3rd and 4th in shots created per 90 behind only KdB and Grealish (Bruno was 5th).

We've had the most shots on target in the league since Tuchel took over. Creativity hasn't been our problem at all, it's been finishing.
 
Mount was second in shot-creating actions last year in the PL behind only Bruno - 168 to 163. Ziyech and Mount were 3rd and 4th in shots created per 90 behind only KdB and Grealish (Bruno was 5th).

We've had the most shots on target in the league since Tuchel took over. Creativity hasn't been our problem at all, it's been finishing.

Mount and Ziyech are good players. Solid. But it’s not a surprise that it’s a non creative player, Kante (for the most part, I know he can get forward), who gets most of the plaudits in the Chelsea team.
 
Mount and Ziyech are good players. Solid. But it’s not a surprise that it’s a non creative player, Kante (for the most part, I know he can get forward), who gets most of the plaudits in the Chelsea team.

Why is that a bad thing? We won the league in 16/17 with Kante as our best player. Leicester did the same in 15/16. Liverpool's best player in 19/20 was VVD - this notion that your best player has to be creative is not based on any real evidence.
 
Loftus Cheek started at Fulham last year.

Exactly, hardly a ringing endorsement. What where his stats last season? Wasn't it something like 1/2 goals + 1/2 assits whilst playing as a AM?
 
Why is that a bad thing? We won the league in 16/17 with Kante as our best player. Leicester did the same in 15/16. Liverpool's best player in 19/20 was VVD - this notion that your best player has to be creative is not based on any real evidence.

I don’t think you will win the league this season because your attacking players are not good enough IMO. Tuchel has come in and organised the team (especially defensively) but it’s still not a team with an over abundance of elite ability going forward. Just my opinion, you don’t have to agree. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.
 
I don’t think you will win the league this season because your attacking players are not good enough IMO. Tuchel has come in and organised the team (especially defensively) but it’s still not a team with an over abundance of elite ability going forward. Just my opinion, you don’t have to agree. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

Sure - I just don't think the argument you've made that we don't have enough creativity holds water. If we're to be let down by our attack it'll be due to poor finishing, not because we haven't created opportunities.
 
Exactly, hardly a ringing endorsement. What where his stats last season? Wasn't it something like 1/2 goals + 1/2 assits whilst playing as a AM?

The only thing I said was the second team is full of PL starters. How many PL second teams can really say that? Man City, anyone else?
 
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