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I thought he was an orphan?
And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he win a couple of lawsuits against media oulets/journalists who linked him to Putin and his regime or was that for a different thing?
Essentiallly he had close ties to Yeltsin and was more or less frozen out when Putin took over in Russia. It's unlikely that he has any sympathy or even involvement in currently ongoing matters.
 
This is the Chelsea FC statement;
"The situation in Ukraine is horrific and devastating. Chelsea FC’s thoughts are with everyone in Ukraine. Everyone at the club is praying for peace."

What a pathetic statement.
No support for Ukraine. Also despicabley playing down the murderous invasion, the act of war as a "situation". No mention let alone condemnation of Putin and Russia's brutal invasion.

Just asset strip the butcher now. Take our club back and nullify all trophies bought by the blood money.

Lets salute the Incredible bravery by the people of Ukraine. Putin is responsible for one of the most shameful periods in modern history. All Russian oligarch's assets should be seized and every help given to the defenders.

Sod Abramovich relinquishing control of Chelsea while still owning it, he should be expropriated and the assets nationalised and administered by a fans’ trust, with notice sent to Newcastle and Man City that they are next.
The hypocrisy of Manchester City faking their concern for Zinkchenko when the oligarch state owners of the club owners abstained from a UN vote and carry out human rights atrocities on an horrifically systemic everyday level.
 
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Essentiallly he had close ties to Yeltsin and was more or less frozen out when Putin took over in Russia. It's unlikely that he has any sympathy or even involvement in currently ongoing matters.

This seems to be much truer. From my recollection of when he brought Chelsea, wasn't one of the key reasons that he was doing so to provide himself with a high international profile and thus:

a) make him someone hard for Putin to mess around with
b) ensure that his assets could start to be moved out of Russia.

On top of this, after buying Chelsea he moved out of the Governership of Chukotka within five years to extract himself from the Russian political scene and also sold his oil holdings to the Russian state at a discounted rate to avoid the fate of some of the other Oil men.

As I have said elsewhere, he is obviously dodgy but I do not see him as a massive crony of Putin but was rather a player in the Yeltsin years.

Now, people can say 'well he is Russian Oligarch so he deserves all that is coming' or that he should publicly decry the war. Problem is that it isn't that easy. If he does the latter, he will probably be drinking a Polonium cocktail sometime in the near future, whilst with the former, can anyone name any other Billionaire that just handed over their assets and said 'take them, my wealth is obscene'?.
 
Isn't that worse? Surely he should have been the one reading/writing that statement? Only circumstantial evidence in court but not a good look.

A bit like a hypothetical Queen's Christmas speech talking about the the horrible people trade going on in the world.

the feck are you on about
 
He probably won't be forced to sell the club, but my gut feeling says this is the first step in what will likely end up with him entertaining offers for the club. He's terrible person, a deeply, deeply unethical person who uses his wealth for evil in the world. That stuff can't be brushed over because we win the European cups and league titles. So yeah, great owner, terrible individual.
Thats entirely possible, but as you posted previously, its going to be another multi billionaire with a potentially muddy background - should it happen.
 
I thought he was an orphan?
And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he win a couple of lawsuits against media oulets/journalists who linked him to Putin and his regime or was that for a different thing?
yes he did, within the last 2 yrs i think, if memory serves me right
 
The Navalny 35 list comes out, and it lists the crime or reason everyone was on the list. I was extremely curious because I thought, “well maybe now I’ll know the dirt and the reason they are so adamant about getting him”.
And … it literally just says he’s super rich and benefitted from the “kleptocracy”. So, being forced to sell his oil company to Putin .. that’s it. It can’t be the time he was Governor: he actually lost money pumping in funds to make that little place better (in vain really).
It certainly seems like they are trying to distract from the fact they haven’t taken even a drop less of Russian fuel with a splashy story. Nobody cares about these other people. There was legit proof Deripaska has led everything from cyber attacks to illicit meetings with an American President, and he’s 13th on the list … and nobody cares. So they want Roman, because a high profile sports owner is the hook of a story. And lambasting a well known sports owner distracts from the EU energy policy that made all of this possible .
 
Redknapp says here that Mendy is bigger, so therefore he can make the better saves, yet the stats do not bear that out when it comes to saving penalties. Tuchel has explained this before that the data suggests that Kepa is significantly better at saving penalties and he has a proven track record in this very competition.

 
Redknapp says here that Mendy is bigger, so therefore he can make the better saves, yet the stats do not bear that out when it comes to saving penalties. Tuchel has explained this before that the data suggests that Kepa is significantly better at saving penalties and he has a proven track record in this very competition.



fecking hell, Redknapp talks so much shit.
 
You play the best keeper on pens. We as fans can only judge the stats, but the managers know them a lot more.

It is crazy we had an identical situation with De Gea for us. He had poor record and failed, but has saved pens this season funny enough. I guess he worked on saving them more.
 
Redknapp says here that Mendy is bigger, so therefore he can make the better saves, yet the stats do not bear that out when it comes to saving penalties. Tuchel has explained this before that the data suggests that Kepa is significantly better at saving penalties and he has a proven track record in this very competition.


It's genuinely mindblowing some of these comments by both football fans and pundits, even forgetting data the eyetest will show very clearly Kepa is a much better PK stopper.
 
It's genuinely mindblowing some of these comments by both football fans and pundits, even forgetting data the eyetest will show very clearly Kepa is a much better PK stopper.

Yeah I mean it's fine to say 'I wouldn't have done that' but to just ignore the fact that Kepa has won the last 4 or 5 shootouts he's been involved in making telling saves in all of them, and as you say the eye test points to the same. There's no chance Tuchel would make a decision like that in final if the data analytics wasn't definitive in Kepa's favour.
 
I have to admit, Kepa is usually pretty decent on pens, but i do think Mendy and Alisson would have saved one of those pens at least, notably Werner's and the one Kepa got a hand to but wasnt quite strong enough; and the shootout would have been over about 5 kicks sooner
 
Finishes woes aside, the way the team performed should now have cemented Havertz's position as the outright first choice striker. We're so dynamic and full of energy and creativity with him leading the line.
 
Here's a question though - have any side enjoyed as much success in penalty shootouts as Liverpool? Particularly in finals?
 
Redknapp says here that Mendy is bigger, so therefore he can make the better saves, yet the stats do not bear that out when it comes to saving penalties. Tuchel has explained this before that the data suggests that Kepa is significantly better at saving penalties and he has a proven track record in this very competition.


Stats aside, bringing on a keeper ‘cold’ seems an odd choice.

Mendy is far more intimidating stature wise and was playing well, apart from also being regarded as worlds best.

I know which keeper I’d rather face if taking a penalty.
 
I have to admit, Kepa is usually pretty decent on pens, but i do think Mendy and Alisson would have saved one of those pens at least, notably Werner's and the one Kepa got a hand to but wasnt quite strong enough; and the shootout would have been over about 5 kicks sooner

It doesn't really work like that though, you can't copy/paste another keeper into the position of the actual keeper after the shot's been taken. Mendy/Allison might as well have dived the wrong way on every pen because they might not have read the shots as well as Kepa/whatever the name of Pool's keeper is.
 
Stats aside, bringing on a keeper ‘cold’ seems an odd choice.

Mendy is far more intimidating stature wise and was playing well, apart from also being regarded as worlds best.

I know which keeper I’d rather face if taking a penalty.

Not if they're some sort of penalty saving expert, like Krul or Martinez or that Egyptian 3rd choice keeper who ended up saving loads of pens.

Hell we should buy that Egyptian fella solely for penalty shootouts!
 
Stats aside, bringing on a keeper ‘cold’ seems an odd choice.

Mendy is far more intimidating stature wise and was playing well, apart from also being regarded as worlds best.

I know which keeper I’d rather face if taking a penalty.

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This is why we did it, Edou is fantastic in almost every way but near enough every penalty he faces ends up like this.

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The first (and so far only) penalty shootout he's faced for us against Spurs the first four pens all looked like the same penalty and as the above shot shown its a similar story with regulation kicks, so with that in mind why wouldn't we favour a keeper who's won over half his shootouts in Chelsea colours? A stat that still stands even after yesterday.

I don't think Kepa is the best penalty saver to ever live but both the stats and the eye test favour him out of our keepers (unless Bettenelli has an out of this world record I haven't been made aware of) when it comes to facing a kick from 12 yards.
 
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This is why we did it, Edou is fantastic in almost every way but near enough every penalty he faces ends up like this.

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The first (and so far only) penalty shootout he's faced for us against Spurs the first four pens all looked like the same penalty and as the above shot shown its a similar story with regulation kicks, so with that in mind why wouldn't we favour a keeper who's won over half his shootouts in Chelsea colours? A stat that still stands even after yesterday.

I don't think Kepa is the best penalty saver to ever live but both the stats and the eye test favour him out of our keepers (unless Bettenelli has an out of this world record I haven't been made aware of) when it comes to facing a kick from 12 yards.
Worked out brilliantly
 
Worked out brilliantly
5 wins out of 8 suggest it works a lot more than it doesn't.

He's not going to win us every shootout but both the stats and the eyetest suggest he'll win more than Mendy does.

Unless ofcourse you've got some data to counter that.
 
This is why we did it, Edou is fantastic in almost every way but near enough every penalty he faces ends up like this.



The first (and so far only) penalty shootout he's faced for us against Spurs the first four pens all looked like the same penalty and as the above shot shown its a similar story with regulation kicks, so with that in mind why wouldn't we favour a keeper who's won over half his shootouts in Chelsea colours? A stat that still stands even after yesterday.

I don't think Kepa is the best penalty saver to ever live but both the stats and the eye test favour him out of our keepers (unless Bettenelli has an out of this world record I haven't been made aware of) when it comes to facing a kick from 12 yards.
your chart literally shows that Mendy has a higher save percentage in shootouts... (even more so now, I guess)
 
Finishes woes aside, the way the team performed should now have cemented Havertz's position as the outright first choice striker. We're so dynamic and full of energy and creativity with him leading the line.
We performed well against Liverpool in recent times. Tuchel is a top tactician and really making this team punch above its weight. Only disappointment I had with him was he loaned broja out. His style of play reminds me of Diego Costa. Hopefully next season he should get his chance to shine and has every thing tuchel demands from a striker. Hardwork,pace, technique,
 
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This is why we did it, Edou is fantastic in almost every way but near enough every penalty he faces ends up like this.

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The first (and so far only) penalty shootout he's faced for us against Spurs the first four pens all looked like the same penalty and as the above shot shown its a similar story with regulation kicks, so with that in mind why wouldn't we favour a keeper who's won over half his shootouts in Chelsea colours? A stat that still stands even after yesterday.

I don't think Kepa is the best penalty saver to ever live but both the stats and the eye test favour him out of our keepers (unless Bettenelli has an out of this world record I haven't been made aware of) when it comes to facing a kick from 12 yards.
I knew Kepa was well ahead on stats, but felt Mendy had already made brilliant saves and his confidence would have been high. Also think the Liverpool players would have preferred Kepa in goal.
 
I put this in the thread about Roman but it deserves to be here too.

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BREAKING: Roman Abramovich will receive bids to buy Chelsea this week with parties believing that, for the first time, he will consider a sale.

Roman Abramovich has previously turned down offers worth £2.2 billion for Chelsea, while the club’s debt to him is £1.51bn which he would almost certainly expect to be covered. (Telegraph) #CFC

For the first time during his ownership, potential buyers believe he would be willing to sell the club.

Preventing the club being part of sanctions. Club being prepared for an eventual sale… #
 
I put this in the thread about Roman but it deserves to be here too.

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BREAKING: Roman Abramovich will receive bids to buy Chelsea this week with parties believing that, for the first time, he will consider a sale.

Roman Abramovich has previously turned down offers worth £2.2 billion for Chelsea, while the club’s debt to him is £1.51bn which he would almost certainly expect to be covered. (Telegraph) #CFC

For the first time during his ownership, potential buyers believe he would be willing to sell the club.

Preventing the club being part of sanctions. Club being prepared for an eventual sale… #

Where are you getting that from? Please dont say Twitter.
 
Jim Ratcliffe will inevitably be linked, but he owns Nice so i guess he wont be interested anymore. Roughly 2.5-3bn to purchase the club?
 
Jim Ratcliffe will inevitably be linked, but he owns Nice so i guess he wont be interested anymore. Roughly 2.5-3bn to purchase the club?

He already made a statement citing the stadium build and resolving SB would require a decade of the owner's time to resolve.
 
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