Chelsea 2022/2023 | THIS IS LAST YEARS THREAD YOU NUMPTIES

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meamth said:
Doesn't fix the problems they have with that amount of first team players do they?

Chelsea is becoming the next self implosion since Leeds was relegated back in the day.

Can't believe we're seeing this in the modern days.
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I'm not an accountant, i have no idea about that. They'll send a bunch out on loan which is pretty standard fare for them and sell a few others. Maybe they cant afford a striker or have to go bargain hunting but its the only position they really need players in.
The league is tight, it wont take that much for them to bounce above 5 / 6 teams next season. Top 4 is another matter, someone has to miss out.
 
meamth said:
Doesn't fix the problems they have with that amount of first team players do they?
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We have so many players with little time left on their contracts and many of them are definitely going to be of interest to other clubs. Loftus-Cheek, Gallagher, Mount, Kovacic, Pulisic, Ziyech for example are all good players. Four of them have contracts expiring in 2024 and the other two have 2 years left. Apart from Pulisic and to some extent RLC everyone of them are on reasonable salaries too.

Based on numerous links to other European clubs Aubameyang should also gather plenty of interest if he's given a free transfer (Barca, Milan and Atletico have been said to be interested). I think Azpilicueta would be able to find a club as a free agent too. These guys still have high salary contracts for another year so might have to compensate up to a few million to get rid but it's also possible being available on a freebie would be incentive enough for some club to take a bite even at their current wages. Either way they're gone.

Then there's the two loanees Zakaria and Felix who will leave automatically unless the club make an effort to keep them. I think Zakaria has no chance to stay but for some reason the club seem to have a boner for Felix so might try for another loan or even a permanent deal for him.

Of these 10 players mentioned I would expect us to keep three at most which would already cut down the squad size considerably. The rest of the trimming could be done by sending some of the youngsters (Hall, Chukwuemeka, DD. Fofana and Broja) out on loan for regular first team football elsewhere. It would be a whole different scenario if everyone we wanted to sell was on a long term contract but as they are not I would think it's not going to be too difficult to make the necessary cuts.

Let's say we manage to sell/release seven of the 10 mentioned senior players and ship three of the youngsters out on loan which would leave us with 21 players from whoever's in the squad currently and we'll have Nkunku and Gusto coming in the summer so 23 players. Adding another striker and a midfielder would put us up to 25 which would be definitely still be on the higher end, especially for a season with no European football, but nothing too outrageous.

Also if there's interest in the likes of Koulibaly, Cucurella, Havertz at decent values we'll absolutely sell them if possible but somehow I doubt that will happen.
 
Agree we should sell Cucu, Nkunku alone won't be enough to solve our goal scoring woes.

What about Lukaku, he's under contract until 2026. Surely Inter won't buy him?

We have to have him in the squad next year? Or if we sell him, then what other goal scorers are out there we can get in?
 
meamth said:
Was about to start a thread on how to fix Chelsea..


Genuinely asking, how the feck do you fix this football club?
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Same way we're getting fixed from the chaos of the last decade.

A few months back when similarities between Woody and Boehly was becoming apparent, Chelsea fans went into denial mode and pointed out Boehly is not Woody and Woody wouldn't even get an internship at Boehly's firm.

Boehly should start by firing himself (Chelsea fans again will be quick to point out he's already done that but let's not kid ourselves).
 
bringbackbebe said:
Same way we're getting fixed from the chaos of the last decade.

A few months back when similarities between Woody and Boehly was becoming apparent, Chelsea fans went into denial mode and pointed out Boehly is not Woody and Woody wouldn't even get an internship at Boehly's firm.

Boehly should start by firing himself (Chelsea fans again will be quick to point out he's already done that but let's not kid ourselves).
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Really lazy comparison. The incompetence level is the only similarity. Boehly gets deals done, Woodward did not and when he did it was a rushed last minute botch job. At what point is that the same besides from the inflated fees?

Though I agree, we can be saved, you were the laughing stock last season. This season with a striker you could have been challenging. We have definitely sunk lower than you did last season but honestly after losing to teams like Watford I think your fans can be happy if you secure 3rd.
 
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How short is their shortlist? I meant who there is on the list beside the obvious Nagelsmann? I don't think Mourinho or Conte would be interested because it looks like a rebuild job in highly competitive league with high standard for title challenge. How the Northen clubs in Italy are struggling, Roma may have a chance to challenge with some more investment. Napoli is the team to beat but since Osimhen injury, their lack of cover for their talisman exposed them. Osimhen leaving or a close title race can change the outlook of Serie A next season.

Conte would go mad even faster if Chelsea boss buy/sell players without his agreement.
 
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ti vu said:
How short is their shortlist? I meant who there is on the list beside the obvious Nagelsmann? I don't think Mourinho or Conte would be interested because it looks like a rebuild job in highly competitive league with high standard for title challenge. How the Northen clubs in Italy are struggling, Roma may have a chance to challenge with some more investment. Napoli is the team to beat but since Osimhen injury, their lack of cover for their talisman exposed them. Osimhen leaving or a close title race can change the outlook of Serie A next season.

Conte would go mad even faster if Chelsea boss buy/sell players without his agreement.
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Enrique, Amorim, Poch and the River Plate coach Gallardo. The Times reported yesterday that we’re supposedly looking at Vincent Kompany, but he might end up being the guy after the next guy if he does well in the PL and City don’t snap him up.
 
What a shame Lampard didn’t get a tune out of them and trick Chelsea into hiring him permanently. Banter would have continued into next season.

Can’t be denied they have some very exciting young talent so if they bring in a decent manager they will be back to being a top 4 threat again next year.
 
SirReginald said:
Really lazy comparison. The incompetence level is the only similarity. Boehly gets deals done, Woodward did not and when he did it was a rushed last minute botch job. At what point is that the same besides from the inflated fees?

Though I agree, we can be saved, you were the laughing stock last season. This season with a striker you could have been challenging. We have definitely sunk lower than you did last season but honestly after losing to teams like Watford I think your fans can be happy if you secure 3rd.
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I don't know why you keep bringing up that Watford defeat as if it was some all time result. Southampton have done the double over you and they're going down.

And yes, it goes without saying you've sunk lower than we did, you've been almost twice as bad this season as Utd were last year. We were absolutely fecking terrible and yet still only finished 6th. You're currently 11th with a decent chance of dropping further looking at your fixture list. It's astonishing how bad you are.
 
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Ekeke said:
Zakaria played 73 minutes for Chelsea, with 12 passes and 75% pass accuracy with 0 tackles, 0 interceptions, 1 blocked shot and 1 clearance

He got outclassed like a league 2 player up against Brighton's midfield. Unbelievable performance from a player several posters wanted us to sign a few years ago
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Yeah, I watched the Brighton game and I was like "who the feck is that?" when Sterling gave hm a bollocking. For a while afterwards, I thought maybe I just didn't see properly and it was Chalobah. It wasn't until a fair bit later in the game I realised he was even playing, when he gave away a silly foul :lol:
 
Looks like they’ve settled on Nagelsmann. I’d have preferred Enrique but oh well.



 
bringbackbebe said:
Boehly should start by firing himself (Chelsea fans again will be quick to point out he's already done that but let's not kid ourselves).
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Pretty much every reliable source has Eghbali and the recruitment team at the forefront of the big decisions these days.

At absolute most he's a second in command to the former.
 
Dancfc said:
Pretty much every reliable source has Eghbali and the recruitment team at the forefront of the big decisions these days.

At absolute most he's a second in command to the former.
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Terrible if true and is probably why things aren't going to improve anytime soon for Chelsea.

Kepa Arizzabalaga said:
Goalkeeper Kepa Arrizabalaga revealed that Chelsea's owners enter the dressing-room after most games, saying: "Todd comes to the changing room in every game. He had different chats with us after different games. I am not going to say what he said. It is normal that he came."
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bringbackbebe said:
Terrible if true and is probably why things aren't going to improve anytime soon for Chelsea.
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The biggest issue with the ownership is that they've tried doing too much, too soon.

A lot of the decisions they have or are in the process of making have been pretty positive, but it's been made on the backdrop of complete instability. A lot of people have been crying out for a structure for years which doesn't revolve entirely around the manager and his own players, and instead a revamped look at the scouting, recruitment, football directorship at the club. I actually think the recruitment made in January will be looked back overtime as largely very positive, and that is the first fingerprints of this structure. It doesn't help though that this is intertwined with the summer recruitment which besides Fofana, is trending towards being the worst transfer window in football history given the money spent.

The ownership shouldn't pander to the fans. It's clear they felt they needed to make a statement when they first joined with the summer signings, but they should have held their ground until the right structure was in place. Same with the managerial change from Tuchel to Potter. Too many things have been done with the right intentions but at the wrong time.

I'm willing to give them time, and they might as well learn from mistakes at the same time the squad is in a transition but this summer, the focus needs to be on stabilising the club and that comes from allowing the directors to do what they are paid to do, and that is make the correct footballing decisions for this club to move forwards.
 
Mb194dc said:
Agree we should sell Cucu, Nkunku alone won't be enough to solve our goal scoring woes.

What about Lukaku, he's under contract until 2026. Surely Inter won't buy him?

We have to have him in the squad next year? Or if we sell him, then what other goal scorers are out there we can get in?
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Assuming you still sign him, which I doubt will happen, because why would he want to sign up for a relegation battle?
 
Getting new forwards in is more important than any manager.

Far too many players and almost no goal scorers in the squad.
 
Feels like Tottenham would be a better choice for Nagelsmann. Enrique or Mancini, someone with more experience are better suited to Chelsea.
 
Surprised they didn't get Enrique, but Nagelsmann is still a very good manager so will do well I'm sure if it is him, but just because of their squad and situation I could see him flopping while it would've been hard to see Enrique not do well. Anyway, they are in a similar boat to United last season, with the caveat that it will be much harder to clear out the squad.
 
bosnian_red said:
Surprised they didn't get Enrique, but Nagelsmann is still a very good manager so will do well I'm sure if it is him, but just because of their squad and situation I could see him flopping while it would've been hard to see Enrique not do well. Anyway, they are in a similar boat to United last season, with the caveat that it will be much harder to clear out the squad.
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definitely one of them 2 it seems . although gallardo is a rumour from left field
 
Mb194dc said:
Getting new forwards in is more important than any manager.

Far too many players and almost no goal scorers in the squad.
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Getting players out is equally as important. FFP or whatever comes into play for majority of clubs now.

Chelsea still need the right players or whatever system the manager will go with. Chelsea may already have players, but the system is absent. So I'd be careful with just throwing shit at the wall without a strategy, but then again, whoever the next manager is, do they even have some say into who is in and out? That's a big disconnect.
 
I don't know, we've got Auba and Lukaku on our books. Both of whom are finishers. We need to cut the squad to 24 players and we need goals.

We'll be in a relegation battle if we go in to next season with the squad we have today for the game. We won't score enough.
 
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