Climate Change | UN Report: Code Red for humanity

Watched a PBS Frontline 3-part series on the Power of Big Oil. It's fascinating how the same narratives and figures pop up over and over again on all these issues. Again you have the Koch brothers doing their shenanigans to oppose climate change policies. Again you have the invented "socialism" narrative on green policies and how they don't align with "American values and freedom".

The parts on the shale revolution are very interesting. Wasn't aware of how hurricane Katrina also played a role in fuelling it (no pun intended).
 
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Sweet Square said:
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It's pretty obvious except to rich people it seems. Still, as the people at large become ever more aware of the need to reverse climate change, there will still be hope for governments to take real action. As long as democracy still exists anyway.
 
utdalltheway said:
Has anyone on here been re-thinking their long term plans whether it’s retirement or having kids?
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I can understand the kid aspect (although really most countries need new kids) but why retirement out of interest?

For the people alive today they'll only feel very mild impacts.
 
Massive Spanner said:
That really depends on the country.
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Exactly right. Say, if you live in Northern Europe and plan to retire somewhere in Southern Europe you (as an old person in particular) are going to be in for some very uncomfortable summers with potentially dangerous temperatures. We're already seeing it.
 
VorZakone said:
Watched a PBS Frontline 3-part series on the Power of Big Oil. It's fascinating how the same narratives and figures pop up over and over again on all these issues. Again you have the Koch brothers doing their shenanigans to oppose climate change policies. Again you have the invented "socialism" narrative on green policies and how they don't align with "American values and freedom".

The parts on the shale revolution are very interesting. Wasn't aware of how hurricane Katrina also played a role in fuelling it (no pun intended).
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I think you'd like this book

https://www.amazon.com.au/Merchants-Doubt-Handful-Scientists-Obscured/dp/1596916109
 
Massive Spanner said:
That really depends on the country.
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Not in my classification of 'mild' but that's subjective and I'm stretching it to habitable which is a low bar. I'm still probably talking shit though, in 50 years some places will be unliveable in the summer but we'll adjust (or at least those who can afford it will).

Short term economic concerns will override long term negative impacts. If governments need to turn to geoengineering in our lifetime they will. It's a question of when not if.
 
SirAF said:
Exactly right. Say, if you live in Northern Europe and plan to retire somewhere in Southern Europe you (as an old person in particular) are going to be in for some very uncomfortable summers with potentially dangerous temperatures. We're already seeing it.
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That’s kind of what I was thinking about. Current plans will have us in Spain. Not that I like the summers in southern Spain so maybe Galicia all year round, or Ireland or ???
 
utdalltheway said:
That’s kind of what I was thinking about. Current plans will have us in Spain. Not that I like the summers in southern Spain so maybe Galicia all year round, or Ireland or ???
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Are you looking to leave the US when you're retired, mate?
 
As fast as I can. I’m ready. The wife is not quite there yet as she has to put in more time at her job to get the pension.
 
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