Conte to leave Inter?

Chaky_Best said:
Don t think Ole can be gone by Christmas, unless we are out of CL, again, and are 20 points behind in PL.

I think he will be assessed at the end of the season.

Nevertheless, even if Conte is someone who wins everywhere he goes, I wouldn't want him at United.

His 352 is a pain to watch and his football too. He s too strict with the players and will finish the players in two years.

Zidane is not the ideal choice neither to succeed Ole btw
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Idk, with the investment in the squad the Glazers might hope for a Tuchel effect with someone like Zidane.

amolbhatia50k said:
Yeah he may be unemployment post United.

Hope Ole delivers this season but he has guarantee of making it to next season let alone be here for a few more years. Expectations are high at United and he has to show he is good enough to keep his seat.
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I think what the original poster was saying is that he will be at United for a few years. Idk if that’s true.
Ayoba said:
Nah he wont go. Even if we're ko'd of the CL group stages, as long as we're in or around the top 4 he'll be fine and given till the end of the season.
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I really don’t think that’s true. He’s improved us, I see that for sure unlike many others but the glazers didn’t just spend more than a 120 million to float around there. He better shape up ba da da daa (youre the one that i want from grease). For me it’s the substitutions and the specificity for lesser teams. No idea why our players play better against the top six than young boys unless Ole just does no homework and trusts the team to just do the job
 
Canagel said:
For the short term Conte is a great choice domestically. We will be favorites to win the league immediately and be in a great position to make the best of Ronaldo last years and a squad that is more or less ready to win now.

But his European record is terrible and the type of players he likes are old experienced veterans that will need to be replaced in 2 years. Mourinho MK2 with less toxicity towards his players. He will also park the bus like Mourinho in big games which will frustrate the fans very quickly.

I prefer Zidane, Ten Hag or Enrique over Conte.
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That's not true at all. Conte did best to create very good squad. Moses was shining example of conte s ability to make average player into title winning starter.

He did sign aged players while in juve or inter but he was forced to do rather than him liking them. He don't have money after signed Lukaku and hakimi for inter. They were not aged either.

He also signed some one like Pogba who was talented but a kid then made him a vital cog in juve title winning team.

After all you signed Cavani Ronaldo varane in last three windows. Aged experienced but hitting top roof in wages alone. Let alone money you spent for signing them . Yet complaining about conte.:lol:
 
TheRedHearted said:
I think what the original poster was saying is that he will be at United for a few years. Idk if that’s true.
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Yeah I know I was just pulling his leg.

Either way Ole has lots to do before earning a few more years.
 
passing-wind said:
You can't listen to this forum when it comes to coaches and player recommendations. Most cannot discern relative information accurately. The narrative of Conte is negative football but how then is solskjaer's philosophy defined ? If any fan thinks United play attacking football they are well far off the mark. Zidane / Conte are miles ahead of Solskjaer it shouldn't even be a debate. Has Ole done enough to be sacked no but as it stands since he's been the interim manager he's still emulating the same weaknesses with little to no progression for his own development tactically.

The only aspect improving at this club is the quality of the players but the team still hasn't made strides when it comes to cohesion and basic football principle. Solskjaer needs to look at the idea of binning the likes of Carrick / Mckenna it's all well and good for the players to say positive things about them but the proof is in the pudding when it comes to weekly match performances the former two are levels below what's required for this team to challenge.

There's an interview by Rio on his channel talking about the influence of different coaches and why Quiroz was a success and the different conversations he had with the players to help them improve individually which contributed to the team. From what Rio describes Carlos was meticulous with instruction and his contributions to the players pertained to the philosophy of how the team is to play as a function. When you contrast what Rio mentions with the likes of what Carrick / Mckenna have drawn up it's laughable and no surprise the team many times cannot even string three successive passes together.
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Great post. This is exactly what seems to be happening.
 
Rajiztar said:
That's not true at all. Conte did best to create very good squad. Moses was shining example of conte s ability to make average player into title winning starter.

He did sign aged players while in juve or inter but he was forced to do rather than him liking them. He don't have money after signed Lukaku and hakimi for inter. They were not aged either.

He also signed some one like Pogba who was talented but a kid then made him a vital cog in juve title winning team.

After all you signed Cavani Ronaldo varane in last three windows. Aged experienced but hitting top roof in wages alone. Let alone money you spent for signing them . Yet complaining about conte.:lol:
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great post.
 
Rajiztar said:
That's not true at all. Conte did best to create very good squad. Moses was shining example of conte s ability to make average player into title winning starter.
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Moses didn't win the title with him, nor was he a starter. He was a fairly useful bench option. Perhaps he can squeeze some assists out of Lingard and Mata for us.
 
mu4c_20le said:
Moses didn't win the title with him, nor was he a starter. He was a fairly useful bench option. Perhaps he can squeeze some assists out of Lingard and Mata for us.
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He started 29 games in the league that season under Conte. Was injured for a couple and came off the bench 5 times.

He was absolutely a starter and certainly won the league.

I think you must be confusing Moses with someone else.
 
duffer said:
He started 29 games in the league that season under Conte. Was injured for a couple and came off the bench 5 times.

He was absolutely a starter and certainly won the league.

I think you must be confusing Moses with someone else.
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He had another spell for him in his first Inter season. I didn't think he was talking about history, and it seems a bit disingenuous not to mention what happened the year after. Because unlike Inter, he didn't exactly leave in glory.
 
I have a lot of admiration for Conte. Clearly has an excellent mind for the game, he has a strong personality and he has a lot of passion.

Having said that, I’m not entirely sure he is a good fit for the club. Our club wants to invest in young players in the main, and already has a strong core of youthful talent any the club with the view of developing them and bringing others through. I don’t see Conte particularly resonating with our ideology, there will be a conflict of ideas between him and the board which only ends one way, especially with a person like him.
 
siw2007 said:
I have a lot of admiration for Conte. Clearly has an excellent mind for the game, he has a strong personality and he has a lot of passion.

Having said that, I’m not entirely sure he is a good fit for the club. Our club wants to invest in young players in the main, and already has a strong core of youthful talent any the club with the view of developing them and bringing others through. I don’t see Conte particularly resonating with our ideology, there will be a conflict of ideas between him and the board which only ends one way, especially with a person like him.
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With Conte it is pretty much a two/three year deal. On one hand you're pretty much guaranteed a title (isn't he on 5 in 7 years?) But equally you've got to accept he isn't going to work with anyone on transfers unless they buy exactly who he wants. Additionally, by year 3, he may still have the players on side (achieved this at both Juve and Inter) but the environment at the club is likely to be toxic.
 
Dave Smith said:
With Conte it is pretty much a two/three year deal. On one hand you're pretty much guaranteed a title (isn't he on 5 in 7 years?) But equally you've got to accept he isn't going to work with anyone on transfers unless they buy exactly who he wants. Additionally, by year 3, he may still have the players on side (achieved this at both Juve and Inter) but the environment at the club is likely to be toxic.
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I think we’d be guaranteed a title challenge, but I wouldn’t say guaranteed a league title. The level of competition is so high at the top of the premier league that it’s by no means a given, since he has Pep, Klopp and Tuchel as direct rivals.
 
darioterios said:
Why has Conte never managed to succeed in Europe? Anyone who has watched his teams in UCL may perhaps have some explanations, thanks a lot.
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First time lost to world-conquering bayern munich in QF. Second time his players let him down, missing 2 trillions sitters in every game and giving up the dumbest goals possible

at chelsea, went out to a better side in barcelona, again mostly down to individual mistakes. At Inter he had a really tough group first time around and got kinda screwed by injuries, and individual mistakes. Last season back to individual mistakes

so it seems he's really poor at getting his players mentally ready for european games i guess, weirdly
Rajiztar said:
That's not true at all. Conte did best to create very good squad. Moses was shining example of conte s ability to make average player into title winning starter.

He did sign aged players while in juve or inter but he was forced to do rather than him liking them. He don't have money after signed Lukaku and hakimi for inter. They were not aged either.

He also signed some one like Pogba who was talented but a kid then made him a vital cog in juve title winning team.
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Nearly every single one of his signings at juventus was bad and out of the team within 3 months. Only Vucinic worked out. Giovinco was decent but nothing much. Pirlo, Pogba, Vidal, Tevez, etc were not his signings, he actually didn't even want Pirlo...and he left when the club refused him Iturbe :lol:

Kante and Alonso at Chelsea were good, and to be fair to him he wanted Van Dijk, Lukaku and Alex Sandro and got Rudiger, Morata and Zappacosta instead. Plus he wanted to keep Matic and they sold him

At Inter his big signings were great, but the cheaper ones much less so, and Vidal was a disaster last year
 
Dave Smith said:
With Conte it is pretty much a two/three year deal. On one hand you're pretty much guaranteed a title (isn't he on 5 in 7 years?) But equally you've got to accept he isn't going to work with anyone on transfers unless they buy exactly who he wants. Additionally, by year 3, he may still have the players on side (achieved this at both Juve and Inter) but the environment at the club is likely to be toxic.
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This is exactly the warning blurb we were given before taking Jose on - i.e It’s worth the short term signings and inevitable circus ending in 2 years time for guaranteed success right now. It wasn’t the case though, and all we got was a load of deadwood.
 
siw2007 said:
I think we’d be guaranteed a title challenge, but I wouldn’t say guaranteed a league title. The level of competition is so high at the top of the premier league that it’s by no means a given, since he has Pep, Klopp and Tuchel as direct rivals.
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Hence, why I said 'pretty much'. Tbh, winning the PL is a tough ask, four teams could do it (with one or two teams capable of doing a dark horse move) whilst there are also managers like those you mention knocking about.

My main point was that Conte is probably the best option if Ole is sacked (I don't think he will be) if the only objective is to win the league.

2 man midfield said:
This is exactly the warning blurb we were given before taking Jose on - i.e It’s worth the short term signings and inevitable circus ending in 2 years time for guaranteed success right now. It wasn’t the case though, and all we got was a load of deadwood.
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For sure, I am not saying 'sack Ole, bring Conte' rather what I mention above.
 
Dave Smith said:
For sure, I am not saying 'sack Ole, bring Conte' rather what I mention above.
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Even if Ole did get the boot tomorrow I wouldn’t be rushing to get Conte. I think I’d rather take Zidane, even though I know less about him as a coach. Neither strike me as particularly long term options though.
 
Not surprised that he's itching to get back in the game, or want to get one over his old employers. Problem is, I could also see it as another Mourinho, when he came here to compete with Pep. Only to get frustrated by our shortcomings and end up turning on the club.
 
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