I feel for him. He is being made an absolute scapegoat for it. The parents saying he should be held accountable are unreasonable. Would they have cared for his family had he died in line of fire?. Accountability rests with the shooter, NRA and the fecking stupid amendment and nothing else.
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I feel for him. He is being made an absolute scapegoat for it. The parents saying he should be held accountable are unreasonable. Would they have cared for his family had he died in line of fire?. Accountability rests with the shooter, NRA and the fecking stupid amendment and nothing else.
It’s a tough spot to be in. I feel for the guy, but at the same time, to be in that position assumes the responsibility to have to act should a worst case scenario happen. Him not acting means even more families lost someone than if he did act.
That being said, most people don’t understand what that situation is like to be in, and unfortunately with some things you don’t know how you’ll react until you’re in that spot.
I probably will act like him. I am a coward and I don't know anything on engaging with guns. But I am not paid and trained for it. He should be held accountable till a certain degree as is his job. You can't expect to have a monthly pay check to not do your job when shit hits the fan and doing or not doing this job has these consequences... How much he should pay? 97 years I find it excessive, even if trained and been paid, he is human. But again, you can't go with that to families that lost a loved one.
Losing his job should have sufficed.
The cold hard truth is we are selfish creatures and our self preservation instincts kick in in those situations. It’s very easy to say he should have done this or that but then again it’s not our asses on the line.
The cold hard truth is we are selfish creatures and our self preservation instincts kick in in those situations. It’s very easy to say he should have done this or that but then again it’s not our asses on the line.
Very true, he is human after all. My take is this, if you are trained for a job that requires you to carry a lethal weapon at all times and you think you have the balls for it an incident like this should cause no hesitation. Wrong man for the wrong job unfortunately, very common in our society.
its just sickening to see this stuff on film, knowing there are exponentially more instances that arent filmed. never trust these people on anything they say.
What a moron.
Following that thread...
Just a few bad ‘uns, right? A dozen of guns trained on an unarmed man on the ground, seems about right.
Just a few bad ‘uns, right? A dozen of guns trained on an unarmed man on the ground, seems about right.
The video belonging to the tweet in post #3489.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...se-video-of-officer-beating-restrained-inmate
It first and foremost shows incidents of cowardly abuse, but it's also visible what nightmarish institutions prisons are, even if everyone behaved according to protocol.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...se-video-of-officer-beating-restrained-inmate
It first and foremost shows incidents of cowardly abuse, but it's also visible what nightmarish institutions prisons are, even if everyone behaved according to protocol.
Showing only blacks been killed or arrested by police? About the other races? Media is really a very dangerous tool in the 21 century.
2019 so far:
From Washington Post
394 people killed by police
84 Whites (no Hispanics)
49 Blacks
44 Hispanics
8 Other (Asians, etc)
209 Unknown (but for the names mostly are Hispanics or whites)
From Fox news
44 Police officers killed in the line of duty
That's the reason so many people gets killed by police, too many officers killed so they over-react and in some cases criminally when they engage someone.
2019 so far:
From Washington Post
394 people killed by police
84 Whites (no Hispanics)
49 Blacks
44 Hispanics
8 Other (Asians, etc)
209 Unknown (but for the names mostly are Hispanics or whites)
From Fox news
44 Police officers killed in the line of duty
That's the reason so many people gets killed by police, too many officers killed so they over-react and in some cases criminally when they engage someone.
Feel free to post them.
The Guardian had a catalogue of US police killings in 2017. I don't know if they added them up by race, but I had looked at the lists (which included photos) and they looked about 50-50 white and non-white.
You might be able to tell his Hispanics from blacks by their name, but you definitely can't look at a name and say "that person is white, not black".
They are just bullies with guns and badges to back up the violence and racism.
cnuts.
cnuts.
Mate, if you've got the info and vids then just post them, this thread is for all police injustices.
Also just to add, you can't tell shit about skin colour from a name alone, you might be able to to infer the religion or cultural background of said person but not the level of melanin.
yeah plenty of white people have the last name black and black people have the last name white. now if you've got some skulls on the other hands...
Different camera footage of the incident from @Eboue post above, and a conversation between the two involved af the end.
The bodycam footage doesnt make it any better. I'm confused how you think it does.
Still waiting for your comment about 20% of your coworkers being outed as racists.
That's not really better, that's mostly the same. The only difference is that we now get to hear the guy who got punched saying "or what?!" repeatedly. What did people think he was doing there? Discussing Game of Thrones? He was clearly mouthing off, and while that might justify trying to control the situation, it doesn't justify punching him after pushing him away, and without him making any aggressive moves in response (except saying "don't touch me, man").
The last thing that move was going to do was calm the situation down.
I never said it was better or worse, I was just adding an updated video with the rest of the footage currently available.
Yeah I realized, that's why I edited it to not imply you were defending him.
The situation was managed poorly, but you really think it was just by coincidence that the start of that video was cut? Officers are responding to reports of shots fired and the dude runs across the street, fists clenched, and starts barking in the coppers face, completely unprovoked. Who the feck does that in a situation so evidently tense? The copper reacted spectacularly bad and I hope he gets reprimanded for it. Still, the video was made to look as though the copper just fancied a swing on a poor innocent man.
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Was it cut or did the bystander just start filming then? Either way it doesnt matter because that's not the point I'm making. The police used unnecessary aggression and poor situation handling in the first video and the videos skizzo posted dont in any way change that fact.
Where did I say it made it better?
Still waiting for your comments on why you think it’s alright to make the comments you did on previous pages.
No worries
I don't know what comments you are referring to or why they are relevant to the article I posted but ok guy.
Black Hispanics are also a thing, and you generally can't tell them apart from white Hispanics based on name.
Ok fella
Just keep clocking in every day surrounded by violent racists.
20% wouldn’t really cause me to be surrounded.
Plus considering my shift consists of 10 people - Myself, a white female, two Filipinos, three Hispanics males, an African American, an Asian and one other white guy - I’m not sure what part of your invalid claims about my department to be wary of.
I don’t need to clock in currently anyway as I’m on paternity leave, but I appreciate your concern for my well being
He didn't say it did, but it didn't stop your usual, passive aggressive bullshit. You and I both know it was cut, but let's pretend it wasn't, hey?
Is it fair to say that its not just the cops in US but in most countries they are "above the law"?. I mean there have been many instances of corruption and framing in other countries as well right?
I dont know if it was cut. Maybe the person only started filming when they realized this was become a big deal. But again i dont care and even if it had been, it would change the clear fact of yet another case of police brutality. Weird for you to become so focused on whether or not it was cut when you also has nothing to say over the investigation that revealed 20% of police officers to be violent racists.
Any of you fellas watch LivePD?
Why would I? Care to make clear what you are implying?
Yeah I do sometimes. I find it really shitty that they don't blur out the faces of people that say don't film me. I thought that was illegal