In deadly force situations, no we don’t train to shoot at limbs. If you have time, distance, cover, and backup on a person who has a knife/bat then someone else should have a taser or 40mm beanbag shotgun type of less-lethal to avoid shooting.@choiboyx012
when you guys do your training, are you not told to try and aim for legs and shit, if someone is unarmed? Doesn’t seem to make any sense to ever need to shoot someone who’s not unarmed in the chest/face area. And also how come there’s a reluctancy to draw a taser?
Ok so just saw the surveillance video, and he does turn and point the taser at the officer. I’m sure someone will post it.
It MIGHT save the officer if he can articulate that a taser could incapacitate him and suspect could go for his gun. He already showed he was going to fight and not comply, and took a weapon from the officer.
but it’s still not enough IMO since he did have a partner with him. If he was a solo officer in that situation then yes it would have been a justified shoot.
Possibly. Can’t really tell from the shaky video.Wasn't it the Tazer they'd already deployed on him and wouldn't that render it useless from range?
So execution it is.Ok so just saw the surveillance video, and he does turn and point the taser at the officer. I’m sure someone will post it.
It MIGHT save the officer if he can articulate that a taser could incapacitate him and suspect could go for his gun. He already showed he was going to fight and not comply, and took a weapon from the officer.
but it’s still not enough IMO since he did have a partner with him. If he was a solo officer in that situation then yes it would have been a justified shoot.
I mean, what was the cop supposed to do? The guy stole his taser and turned around looking like he was gonna use it. At what point is it a justified shooting? Even if he shot his leg, I think some of you would think that would be too egregious.So execution it is.
And no, I'm not saying the guy deserved to die before any of you go there. Or even be shot. Genuinely asking, what do you think the cop should have done?
looks like other cops have reacted differently to more serious situations
Yah, bit of overkill that.A school police district had fecking grenade launchers in their arsenal.
feck me, my country sucks.
NahSo execution it is.
looks like other cops have reacted differently to more serious situations
Initially didn’t even notice the part in the tweet where he mentions race.That tweet is another attempt at race-baiting.
I mean, what was the cop supposed to do? The guy stole his taser and turned around looking like he was gonna use it. At what point is it a justified shooting? Even if he shot his leg, I think some of you would think that would be too egregious.
While I think you're right, it's a tough call. If a cop lets someone go, and that person ends up hurting someone else, there'd be a lot of questions raised.Letting him escape probably have been preferable i'd think. Shooting should be an absolute last resort really and doing so should raise serious questions. There'll be times its definitely justified - America is just too damn dangerous for it to avoided at times but this doesn't look like one of them.
While I think you're right, it's a tough call. If a cop lets someone go, and that person ends up hurting someone else, there'd be a lot of questions raised.
Ok so just saw the surveillance video, and he does turn and point the taser at the officer. I’m sure someone will post it.
It MIGHT save the officer if he can articulate that a taser could incapacitate him and suspect could go for his gun. He already showed he was going to fight and not comply, and took a weapon from the officer.
but it’s still not enough IMO since he did have a partner with him. If he was a solo officer in that situation then yes it would have been a justified shoot.
not the best lot of apples
I mean, what was the cop supposed to do? The guy stole his taser and turned around looking like he was gonna use it. At what point is it a justified shooting? Even if he shot his leg, I think some of you would think that would be too egregious.
They knew who he was, they had his car, assistance was on the way. They could have chased him in their car and boxed him in. Or they could have just picked him up in the morning. He hadn't even committed a crime in the first place for feck's sake. They could have just checked he was ok and made sure he got home safely, which is what would have happened if it was a white person I'm sure.And no, I'm not saying the guy deserved to die before any of you go there. Or even be shot. Genuinely asking, what do you think the cop should have done?
I mean, that's a totally different situation. From what I can tell in the video, that looks like a shoplifter? And when he turns around and shoots at him, wouldn't the cop be justified firing back? I mean, it's good that the situation ended without anyone being injured and all (if that's indeed what happened), but the guy running away actually shot at him?
Its not a tough call for a suspected DUIWhile I think you're right, it's a tough call. If a cop lets someone go, and that person ends up hurting someone else, there'd be a lot of questions raised.
And no, I'm not saying the guy deserved to die before any of you go there. Or even be shot. Genuinely asking, what do you think the cop should have done?
Sleeping in the passenger seat of your car definitely needs to end in being shot in the back 3 times, I mean if they hadn’t killed him who knows what he could have gone on and done.While I think you're right, it's a tough call. If a cop lets someone go, and that person ends up hurting someone else, there'd be a lot of questions raised.
looks like other cops have reacted differently to more serious situations
The more I think about it, that's such a strange tweet. I don't think anyone's claiming the cops had to kill. But the cop there is only uninjured because the shoplifter missed. Should the standard police response be let yourself be shot at and hope the guy has the aim of a stormtrooper?
Found a news account - https://abcnews.go.com/US/body-cam-video-shows-alleged-shoplifter-shooting-police/story?id=57410159
100% the officer would be justified in firing back. The point is he didn’t, despite almost potentially losing his life; therefore the use of deadly force in the other scenario, while an option, was not necessarily required. Obviously everyone handles stressful/traumatic situations like that differently. If you ask me, if you can’t handle the situation with the taser without resorting to taking a life you probably shouldn’t be given a gun.
How can a taser be a firearm?
How can a taser be a firearm?
Fires projectiles that can immobilise the target. Seems fairly logical, if a little loose?
It is in the UK. It's classed as a S5 firearm. As is incapacitatent spray (CS gas etc). Without going too much into it it's due to the fact you can continually discharge it.
How can a taser be a firearm?
Does it meed the requirement for response with deadly force if it's employed against you?
