They can't extend it beyond 30th June (which is what UEFA said it has to be completed by if I'm not mistaken), so the point still stands. It just can't happen surely.
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They can't extend it beyond 30th June (which is what UEFA said it has to be completed by if I'm not mistaken), so the point still stands. It just can't happen surely.
Sadly, this just means that not only is this season at jeopardy, but the next 2 years will be a nightmare to get things back to how they were, on a PL level, not even talking about the lower leagues.
For them to say indefinitely is just easing the fans minds. For example, I seriously doubt a season can be suspended for 2 years before finish it off, that would just be silly.
I wonder how this will effect the squads that we end up seeing when football is back. I'd be wary if I was a club about extending the contracts of players in my side who were over 30 for example. Plus there are the type of players who may have been in the form of their career and won't get their big summer move due to this. The ripple effects are massive.
So it’s obvious that the Premier League is adamant that this season will finish, but i don’t think the same is true for Italy and Spain. I can see them possibly voiding the season. So if this does drag into early September, how does that affect the early stages of the Champions League? The Premier League would still be playing the 2019/2010 season while other leagues could potentially be in 2020/2021 season meaning the Champions League games couldn’t go ahead because of the Premier League.
I know this is all ifs and buts, but this is the knock on effects of encroaching into next season, particularly if you’re the only league to do so.
I know this is all ifs and buts, but this is the knock on effects of encroaching into next season, particularly if you’re the only league to do so.
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UEFA cannot stop the domestic leagues from extending beyond 30 June.
UEFA can threaten not to allow domestic league participants from entering its tournaments if the domestic leagues run beyond that deadline. I don't think UEFA will do that though. If the virus is still spreading like wildfire well into May UEFA would acknowledge it is impractical to finish the season by July. Also UEFA has its own TV revenue to think about. The national leagues are what give UEFA its biggest earners: Champions League participants. If Spain and Italy are still on lock down in a couple of months there's very little chance of UEFA saying Juventus and Real Madrid and Barcelona will be banned from entering next year's Champions League if Serie A and La Liga don't end by July.
My money would be on the players being given their vacations between now and mid-May sometime. If the situation is looking up come then, I would expect the season to finish between the start of June and the end of July. Players will then get a small break, their pre-season break effectively having happened between March and May, and then next season would start in mid to late August. The leagues will probably agree to cancel the winter break to make all the fixtures happen, with UEFA pushing back the Nations League (as nobody really cares about it) until it can find a good time to play it.
Yeah I said a few pages back that all the leagues need to align if they want to stay in UEFA competitions. Either that or UEFA has to rethink the cut off point.
Sheffield United won't be as good without Henderson so at least they are less likely to chomp for the top 4 place with us 
Ideal situation... re-start May 1 - finish by June 30th.
Let's see how it looks mid to late April....
Let's see how it looks mid to late April....
Now we can put all the cafe posters theory to the test: City can still catch and overtake Liverpool. Go on then, the math are City's favour, right caftards?
Or to put it in Merson's twisted brain, seems like the players will return to the table with Ronnie O Sullivan to continue needing just one more red which is hanging over the pocket, 15 inches away. Unhindered.
Why do you still not understand it? Liverpool are 97-99% favourites to win the league. That is not the same as 100%. The two options are finishing the league or voiding it. Preferably the first one.
Too many were so sure it would be voided like they had seen the future when the reality is we are all just stating our personal predictions. Logistic inconveniences and formalities were never going to be barriers to finishing it. They will also very likely resume before the pandemic is over as will many businesses
How will that work exactly?
Aye you're right, could be. Just listening to the Guardian podcast from Monday and they are discussing the fact that placing timelines on anything at the moment seems strange, as the thing that the authorities suddenly have plenty of IS time. They don't have to rush into any decision, and can clearly and precisely think about what to do about this season / next season / transfer window / players contracts / how to help smaller clubs that will be struggling to a very great extent.
I understand the need to make a statement for clarification and what have you, but I think everyone should be taking any timelines presented at the moment with the view in mind that no one honestly knows where we will be 1 month / 2 months / 4 months from now. Safety and well being of everyone is paramount, so make the safest decision possible for all parties (players, staff, fans, broadcasting staff etc).
When the numbers are under control and experiencing a downward trend. One thing is for sure, if we all sit home till a vaccine becomes available in 2021 the economy will collapse beyond repair. Clubs won't even be able to comfortably afford their own wage bill by then
It seems you underestimate a bit what is at stake here I think.
Especially as Liverpool would ask for three trophies to mark their title win of the season 2019-2022.
Now i would like the season to continue, but this opinion below is fecking stupid:
How the feck can you think it's ok to go into "September, October, whenever"
For this to happen, all teams in Europe would have to agree with the Premier League and continue, and considering the state some of them are in i can't see that happening. Otherwise that would completely feck up the Champions League for everyone all because you want your beloved Premier League to continue. It would also have huge ramifications for future seasons because god knows when they would take place. There's many other knock on effects, of course. As i said, i would like for this season to go ahead, but within reason FFS.
How the feck can you think it's ok to go into "September, October, whenever"
For this to happen, all teams in Europe would have to agree with the Premier League and continue, and considering the state some of them are in i can't see that happening. Otherwise that would completely feck up the Champions League for everyone all because you want your beloved Premier League to continue. It would also have huge ramifications for future seasons because god knows when they would take place. There's many other knock on effects, of course. As i said, i would like for this season to go ahead, but within reason FFS.
Not much point giving players a vacation if they can't go anywhere!
I agree however that the aim has got to be to finish this season if at all possible.
I agree however that the aim has got to be to finish this season if at all possible.
Now i would like the season to continue, but this opinion below is fecking stupid:
How the feck can you think it's ok to go into "September, October, whenever"
For this to happen, all teams in Europe would have to agree with the Premier League and continue, and considering the state some of them are in i can't see that happening. Otherwise that would completely feck up the Champions League for everyone all because you want your beloved Premier League to continue. It would also have huge ramifications for future seasons because god knows when they would take place. There's many other knock on effects, of course. As i said, i would like for this season to go ahead, but within reason FFS.
The inference that lawyers won't be unleashed if clubs are told to continue the season at some point when their club and squad is in a much different state is beyond stupid.
Now i would like the season to continue, but this opinion below is fecking stupid:
How the feck can you think it's ok to go into "September, October, whenever"
For this to happen, all teams in Europe would have to agree with the Premier League and continue, and considering the state some of them are in i can't see that happening. Otherwise that would completely feck up the Champions League for everyone all because you want your beloved Premier League to continue. It would also have huge ramifications for future seasons because god knows when they would take place. There's many other knock on effects, of course. As i said, i would like for this season to go ahead, but within reason FFS.
And does that not also void integrity and unleash even more lawyers? Dumb as feck thing to say
Now i would like the season to continue, but this opinion below is fecking stupid:
How the feck can you think it's ok to go into "September, October, whenever"
For this to happen, all teams in Europe would have to agree with the Premier League and continue, and considering the state some of them are in i can't see that happening. Otherwise that would completely feck up the Champions League for everyone all because you want your beloved Premier League to continue. It would also have huge ramifications for future seasons because god knows when they would take place. There's many other knock on effects, of course. As i said, i would like for this season to go ahead, but within reason FFS.
Imo other leagues will resume their seasons for the same reason the PL will, that is, Revenue, the only knock on effect that matters right now.
When we clamour to void the season so quickly we speak from a position of privilege because we're Man United and can afford the bill. Although I doubt our board would even be cool with that
I do wish they'd stop making this about Liverpool. Even reading their rants about integrity in this thread makes me hope they void it
The rationale for their vacation is not for them to go to Dubai, its to have time off playing football so their joints don't turn to crap. They can take time off in their Cheshire mansions just as easily as they can on a yacht in the Persian gulf!
It was never going to be voided before May.
They have kicked the can down the road and rightly so. Even if its only a tiny chance they can resume in May.
But in reality football isnt starting again before mid July in my humble opinion.
no chance this happens
Now i would like the season to continue, but this opinion below is fecking stupid:
How the feck can you think it's ok to go into "September, October, whenever"
For this to happen, all teams in Europe would have to agree with the Premier League and continue, and considering the state some of them are in i can't see that happening. Otherwise that would completely feck up the Champions League for everyone all because you want your beloved Premier League to continue. It would also have huge ramifications for future seasons because god knows when they would take place. There's many other knock on effects, of course. As i said, i would like for this season to go ahead, but within reason FFS.
I agree it's a ridiculous suggestion. If the current season cannot be completed before the new one is due to begin, then it is made null and void.
I cannot imagine the FA even considering making alterations to next season to accommodate the current one. It makes no sense.
This is nothing news today. Did anyone really think they were going to say they weren't committed to finishing the season? They obviously want to do that but the question is will they be able to. It's a fluid situation so they don't want to put a time scale on it but believe you me there will be a point where it becomes impossible to complete the season and that's when it will be knocked on the head.
Feck me. Let's just finish it in December can cancel next season for the scousers.
All clubs going bust from losing a year's worth of gate receipts can go and sue LFC.
All clubs going bust from losing a year's worth of gate receipts can go and sue LFC.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/vid...58626/inside-sport-should-liverpool-get-title
Quiz time.
There are 4 people discussing the potential ramifications of giving Liverpool the title should the season not be completed. See if you can figure out who that is.
Quiz time.
There are 4 people discussing the potential ramifications of giving Liverpool the title should the season not be completed. See if you can figure out who that is.
But if football restarts in 2021 August won't Sky and BT would want a huge partial refund on the deal they agreed with the premiership. And if they fight for a refund or worse cancel the contract then how will Premier league clubs pay their players?
However if they go behind closed doors then they might not need a full compliment of emergency service support as most premiership teams already have doctors and people trained in first aid as part of the coaching staff.
How this works is beyond me. We would have missed approx 8 weeks? which lets say 7 PL games. Then we have FA cup games and EL. That is 2 months of football and even if they say football can be restarted in May. Teams will need to start playing friendlies and the like to get fit which could take 2 weeks. The earliest this season finishes is Mid July.
Then 6 week break, and the PL start in September? Then again, it has to be finished by May next year due to the Euros.
Also the season after is WC in December, so the season will have to start earlier so it can be complete with a month of WC in there.
Then 6 week break, and the PL start in September? Then again, it has to be finished by May next year due to the Euros.
Also the season after is WC in December, so the season will have to start earlier so it can be complete with a month of WC in there.
6 months maybe but not the next 2 years. Viruses have been part of our lives. This one is unique because we have no vaccine but it will come. Around June or July life will feel better and the next season can kick on around Auguest. We just need Liverpool without any title and see if United could be allowed a CL qualification either through City not qualifying or through the EL. Win win.
Anyway I trust Ole with the team now.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/vid...960183/spb-higgy-on-pl-season-ooyala-thursmxf
Danny Higginbotham talking sense.
Danny Higginbotham talking sense.
A lot of people aren't saying that though. I'm defiantly not clamouring for it to be voided, but there comes a point where that may have to happen. A lot of journalists (and others) seem to have collectively lost their god damn minds when it comes to playing this season out. They're just not rational about it at all. There is a possibility that it could be voided and that should definitely be an option moving forward. Further down in that thread someone asked him about the impact that would have on next season if we were to continue, and he said we would just have to truncate it. He talks about integrity, then he says something like that. There's just no rationality there.
We can work backwards from a fairly clear schedule.
1. Leagues need to have a summer break, for international competition and because its just too bloody hot in some countries. All leagues also need to be aligned on a similar schedule for European club competition to work. That means all new leagues need to start by the end of September.
2. Players need a summer break of 1 month to recover. They then need another month of pre-season preparation. Kicking off a league without rest or preparation will lead to injuries and all sorts of mess. Maybe this could be condensed, but not by much.
3. To get that 2 months, across Europe all leagues must be finished or scrubbed by the end of July.
4. With 10 games left and no European games to worry about, we need at least 5 weeks to finish the PL.
5. PL must be restarted by the middle of June or it can't finish.
1. Leagues need to have a summer break, for international competition and because its just too bloody hot in some countries. All leagues also need to be aligned on a similar schedule for European club competition to work. That means all new leagues need to start by the end of September.
2. Players need a summer break of 1 month to recover. They then need another month of pre-season preparation. Kicking off a league without rest or preparation will lead to injuries and all sorts of mess. Maybe this could be condensed, but not by much.
3. To get that 2 months, across Europe all leagues must be finished or scrubbed by the end of July.
4. With 10 games left and no European games to worry about, we need at least 5 weeks to finish the PL.
5. PL must be restarted by the middle of June or it can't finish.
You can argue that they need a mental break as well. Sitting at home all fidgety, waiting and wondering when will they finish the season won't really get them that.
Course there aren't any good options, and I guess they'll just have to suck it up next season. Though I would at least scrap the League Cup next year and leave the winter break in the schedule.
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Exactly!
So what happens if they restart the season (even if behind closed doors) and one or two of the players end up with the virus?
Do they stop everything again, or just quarantine those players (but if theyve been in contact with others, then what)?
I would get the whole restart dates, if there was a cure available which guaranteed this would be complete / over by a specific time. However we know that there isnt a guarantee. There needs to be a cut off point. I get wanting to give it every chance to finish, but it should be agree, if by end of Aug its not complete, then it needs to be voided.
Do they stop everything again, or just quarantine those players (but if theyve been in contact with others, then what)?
I would get the whole restart dates, if there was a cure available which guaranteed this would be complete / over by a specific time. However we know that there isnt a guarantee. There needs to be a cut off point. I get wanting to give it every chance to finish, but it should be agree, if by end of Aug its not complete, then it needs to be voided.
Henry Winter is a tit. No idea why he's held in such regard. Probably because he has a plummy voice and sounds like he's know what he's talking about when he hasn't a fecking clue.