Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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This can only work in the UK when we have enough testing capacity for essential workers first.
The idea that football clubs could be tested weekly when others are still waiting in line would not go down well at all.
I cant see how they'll just open up international travel again by September.
They could play an adjusted format for one season of course to accommodate that type of thing
So in Czechia the idea is to restart on June 8 (if the government agrees) and finish before August 3. 20/21 should have started mid-July but if CL/EL qual games are played during August (unlikely??) the next league season would begin in September instead. Of course everything depends on the situation in next few weeks.
There will always be idiots willing to take risks.
My cousin and his wife went and took their kids on a skiing holiday to Italy in early March. Despite it being obvious at that stage that the country was quickly headed for a major outbreak.
Completely agree . People like myself will find it impossible to keep all my staff employed and the economy will be ruined . But if people are still dying it's possible it will happen and this is why arseholes need to stay indoors now
How weird, I just read the title of this thread as 'Could they suspend the coronavirus due to the PL'.
Sorry, carry on.
Sorry, carry on.
Because if you sell a season ticket advertising the 19/20 season and then at a later date the 19/20 season is deemed to have never happened then fans will rightly feel cheated of their money. It's obviously pedantic but it's only fair, no? I genuinely don't understand how you could charge fans for these matches using the argument "the games still took place" while also arguing that the results of these matches and points won from these matches shouldn't count. Which is it?
Hundreds of thousands of people are going to die, huge numbers of businesses going under, savings/investments decimated, unemployment numbers will be sky high...the sooner people abandon the idea that the fallout it's going to be 'fair' for everyone, the better.
Most people are going to be screwed in many ways...refunds for games you've been to see because the result was voided?!? Pipe dream.
How about a abbreviated tournament that takes place in 2-3 weeks like the Euro Cup (or the World Cup)?
Sky are reporting UEFA have pencilled in Aug 26th and Aug 29th for the EL and CL finals.
They must be really optimistic about that plan if they're using pencils.
Personally I don’t like this idea of “void” but instead curtail - I think it’s a ridiculous notion to wipe the results of what’s happened. void can have many meanings
They happened, goals were scored, there were results - just that the season couldn’t finish. I don’t think that’s in any way hard to comprehend.
I guarantee you no club will be refunding full season tickets, and nor should they.
Bizarre thing to do really.
No advantage to it bar setting out a "we will finish this" stance.
The tournaments are in a mess. Some one leg through, some none. Italian and Spanish teams involved.
We would have to play a totally pointless second leg out.
And then have rounds and rounds more..
I know and accept we cannot restart until it's safe but boy I miss it, it didn't hit me so much until today but reading Reece James's interview earlier really hit it home how much.
I'm in the will firmly be happy with BCD football for a season if it's that or no football atall camp, I watch youth and reserve games often so I'm semi use to it anyway.
I'm in the will firmly be happy with BCD football for a season if it's that or no football atall camp, I watch youth and reserve games often so I'm semi use to it anyway.
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I actually don’t miss football at all.
the last couple of weeks have been great for reassessing the business, connecting with friends and family. I’ll clearly watch the games when back on, but it’s going to be far less important than it was.
this really is a reset for the world, and I hope therefore some good comes from it. Perhaps football needs to be brought down a peg or 10.
the last couple of weeks have been great for reassessing the business, connecting with friends and family. I’ll clearly watch the games when back on, but it’s going to be far less important than it was.
this really is a reset for the world, and I hope therefore some good comes from it. Perhaps football needs to be brought down a peg or 10.
Why does watching football affect you reassessing your business and reconnecting with family and friends? Aren’t we all already doing that while watching sports on the side? Really weird comment.
I mean, that's literally what would happen in the event of the season being declared null and void. Results would be wiped. We'd all remember the time that team beat that other team, yeah, but it'd count for nothing and wouldn't be reflected in the history books.
Is exactly right. You'll just get shouted down on here with this view though.
Null and void means just that, and all the implications that go with it. I have tried explaining it this many times but it just seems to fall on deaf ears. I've seen laughable suggestions that you can void the season and pay out prize money etc. You can't have your cake and eat it.
Stop trying to build strawmen so that you can build up the idea the season must be finished. Noone would expect to be refunded for all the games they have seen. Clubs have already said they will refund for games not played. I am sure someone will try to get the money back and any court will tell you to sod off.
Lawyers are rubbing their hands together.
Scottish football is a shambles.
Which would be all 38 games of the 19/20 season...
This is the pertinent part. There would be no rearranged match. Besides, none of that deals with the consequences of cancelling previously completed matches but rather focuses on either abandonment of currently ongoing matches or postponement of future matches.
It says quite plainly that there is no obligation to if a game is cancelled. If a game is played later you get to go but if it isn't you don't get a refund. There is no confusion there.
The club doesn't have to refund $1 but they will voluntarily refund for the final 4 homes games if they don't happen. They don't have to refund for any others any more than they have to refund for these 4.
What? What is the logic here? They played 28 or 29 games...
To be fair, cancel was completely the wrong word on my part as that isn't what would be happening to previously completed matches anyway.
Here is Liverpool's t&c's, notice the bold part then tell me how in the event of declaring a season to have never happened that said season would still be considered applicable. Only in cuckoo land can you pick and choose which parts of the season to null and void (conveniently the results and points accumulated but nothing else).
Thankfully it's looking an increasingly moot point anyway as null and void doesn't seem to be happening in any of the major leagues (if any league at all?). Teams that have had a poor season and needed a global catastrophe to get them out of jail will just need to live with that.
It's pedantic logic. How can you say they played 28 or 29 games when the history books show the season didn't ever happen?
When they null and void the season and all moneys go back to the original pockets, as must happen, will the people who entered the grounds with tickets for non existent matches be fined for trespassing? I can't see any other conclusion.
And the players should give their salary back, and staff members too because owners will rightly feel cheated. The event took place regardless of the outcome of the league. They're not cheating or stealing your money, you payed to watch a game and you did. The team had to pay players and all of the expenses to host a match.
I thought you had been thread banned or at least given up posting in here.
quite frankly it’s a shame you are back.
We know that you don’t honestly believe that all season tickets will be paid lack. It’s illogical, and won’t happen for a single club across the world.
pathetic, self serving and distasteful post
you are now on my blocked list, along with a number of other muppets in this thread.
The virus has given me time and perspective to look at my priorities in life and to reassess what’s important.
It’s done that for a lot of people. Before the pandemic, everyone was on the treadmill - there was little time, want, desire or need to look introspectively.
Football is no longer of any particular importance to me - I don’t miss it, I don’t have any particular affection for the game it’s become, and the total greed that’s comes from it
Agree. What we've been discussing can actually be splitted into two parts.
First is when the coronavirus will be eliminated. Theoretically, the spread isn't going to stop until at least 50-60% of the population develops immunity. It's reasonable for scientists and experts to predict that the world wouldn't be safe until mid 2021. Yes we don't know much about the coronavirus and things change every day, but scientific estimation is the best we've got for now. I, personally, have prepared for a life wearing masks for another year.
Whether football has to wait till that point to restore, however, is another debate. It totally depends on how you, or the government more importantly, balance risk and benefit. I bet everyone wants football back asap, but even if we can't reach a concensus on how football should be resumed, it's much more difficult to execute. I'd rather wait for an extra month, than to rush football back and face another suspension after a few games.
In the meantime, I agree that we have to find a way to coexist with the virus. There's no way we stay home for a whole year and we have to tey to return to normalcy as much as possible.
There is no Premier League in Taiwan. There are no professional footballers either and it's just a semi-pro competition which consists of a few teams only. This can hardly serve as an example for professional football to restore.
I hope this happens but I doubt this is the case. Most governments prioritize on economic development after such a crisis, few would actually look into the problems of the healthcare system. After a few elections, no one would remember the epidemic/pandemic and the healthcare system remains neglected.
The competition is literally called the Taiwan Football Premier League and if the country deems it safe for about 40 non-professionals to be lax on social distancing than there's no reason to believe the same can't apply for professionals.
There's no way that countries won't invest heavily in their health care systems while the pandemic, which has a significant effect on the economy, is still going on.
I agree. Life is less stressful without football.