Do not get me wrong, seeing SU get CL would be a great advert for football and I would love to see it if it did not directly affect my team (and even then it would sweeten the pill). However, if the league cannot play out I do not see how the Dutch model, PPG or as it stands affects you as you get the same outcome unless UEFA go hardcore and ban City without an appeal which I think would be ridiculous and would open them up to a massive law suit if City did win the appeal.
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Do not get me wrong, seeing SU get CL would be a great advert for football and I would love to see it if it did not directly affect my team (and even then it would sweeten the pill). However, if the league cannot play out I do not see how the Dutch model, PPG or as it stands affects you as you get the same outcome unless UEFA go hardcore and ban City without an appeal which I think would be ridiculous and would open them up to a massive law suit if City did win the appeal.
UEFA - or someone else, but there isn't one - really needs to take control over this or the different schedules of the leagues will create mayhem.
Unfortunately, all they've been able to do so far was make threats, then retreat. Useless.
Wow. I take back what I said about the club itself staying classy while their ex-players, pundits and fans are shouting about resuming football in the middle of a pandemic for selfish purposes.
Personally if i was to restart the league it would be jan 2021, with pre season from jan 1st.
The only way to restart the league now would be to utilize no more than two staduims in wales or scotland, as their numbers are relatively low, with two matches a day or every other day, again two matches a day, section of an area as a camp for all 20 teams in the premier league, with a view for the league to start in JUNE, and last no more than 6 weeks, once completed repeat the same process for the championship.
If unable to start in June, prefereably just void the season and hope the Jan 2021,things are better, and for the 1st 4 months of the year just have a tournament sort of event, 4 groups of 5 teams, utilizing hopefully social distancing in relation to gate reciepts, merchandise at just above cost price.
I would also float the idea to clubs about combining and taking on a new form, 'club name' i.e. loose 3 clubs from the premier league, 4 to 6 from the championship,league 1 and league 2 respectively, rather than bankcruptcy.
Listening to Boris harping on about past the peak, with over 500 deaths in the last day, is worrying, when 30 days from now, the Uk will easily have close to 40,000 deaths, this is on the basis that i am forecasting a minimum 250 people, pass away a day, and the uk still have over 144,000 active cases.
The only way to restart the league now would be to utilize no more than two staduims in wales or scotland, as their numbers are relatively low, with two matches a day or every other day, again two matches a day, section of an area as a camp for all 20 teams in the premier league, with a view for the league to start in JUNE, and last no more than 6 weeks, once completed repeat the same process for the championship.
If unable to start in June, prefereably just void the season and hope the Jan 2021,things are better, and for the 1st 4 months of the year just have a tournament sort of event, 4 groups of 5 teams, utilizing hopefully social distancing in relation to gate reciepts, merchandise at just above cost price.
I would also float the idea to clubs about combining and taking on a new form, 'club name' i.e. loose 3 clubs from the premier league, 4 to 6 from the championship,league 1 and league 2 respectively, rather than bankcruptcy.
Listening to Boris harping on about past the peak, with over 500 deaths in the last day, is worrying, when 30 days from now, the Uk will easily have close to 40,000 deaths, this is on the basis that i am forecasting a minimum 250 people, pass away a day, and the uk still have over 144,000 active cases.
This applies to bars and businesses too but how can the government keep subsidizing people's wages till 2021. Money doesn't grow on trees you know. Also how can they pay employees if they aren't making money.
What would happen if we restart the league and the majority a team have to go into quarantine because someone gets infected? Would all their matches be void? This is going to be a disaster.
I'm not realy sure why they are dissapointed. He didn't say anything offensive and nothing against Liverpool. He even said they should be given title. So I realy don't understand what the problem is. How wierd statement.
Isn't theirs own negligence when they packed Anfield against Atl Madrid being one of discussions where virus could also have spread? So why even go at their own mayor for raising concerns over celebrations if they win or are given the league. Absolutly nonsens from Liverpool and their PR hasn't done a lot right lately.
It's like that April fools story about playing in China, as their cases have stopped
this is a really shit WUM attempt, I expect better from scousers
The reason is that if we decide to finish this season over starting next year around 50% of clubs will go out of business, players will be out of contract, players also lose money because they will not get severance pay, etc.
Best get you in those COBRA meetings then
except there are only three examples none of which are consistent, none of which have any effect on any decision to be made, as like in law each country has different rules and judges. You can’t say because I shot someone in the uk I will get treated the same as someone who shot someone trespassing in the US
Precedent would only work If a) it’s happened in this country before or b) it was ruled on by uefa.
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And who defines "clear"?
People who think Liverpool's PR department needs a clean up are just as deluded as the Scousers themselves. Some forumers have even written, "I expected better of the club". Wow!
This is not a PR disaster and you shouldn't expect any better.
This is what the soul of Liverpool FC stands for - the epitomy of self-righteousness.
The way testing capacity is going in most countries it looks like it'll be doable by September-ish.
I’m not excited by that news at all, mate. I was just making a poor attempt at humour using mimicry by copying a post of yours from earlier today.
Touche, the bitee has bitten. I let my guard down momentarily.
Wolfsburg will be the first team to resume full first-team training as one group (in Europe?) provided all tests that were done yesterday come back negative. Yesterday mass testing of all players and staff in the top two divisions began.
Touche, the bitee has bitten. I let my guard down momentarily.
This season is starting 8th June defo
Behind closed doors in s neutral.venue scenario
Tv cameras will show some games live.
Apparently it's all part of the phased reduction in lock down starting in late may and will be announced on 8th may formally
Players have started to train already in some clubs
We need the football to resume for economic reasons too and the club's don't want to be fined or penalised
I would prefer France option end season now on ppg scenario far less messy and let's us plan for a much reduced season next year maybe in new year
Hang on a minute!
I live in Wales and quite frankly, I wouldn't want any such thing taking place. Why should others in Wales and Scotland be risked just to get football going again?
Looking at the leak from a Bristol Rovers rep about how the EFL are seeing things pan out, is very interesting as Wycombe fan.
Promoting 3 from league 1 would see us go up on points per game.
That'd be a very strange mixture of being pleased at the massive income, and hitting our highest position in history, mixed with not really being able to celebrate it too much because it's been done on a technicality, and not being able to watch at least half a season of the games in the ground!
If there are no relegations though, and the premier league needs to reduce down from 23 the next season, they'd presumably need to relegate 6 teams, and then receive 3 up to get back to 20.
That surely means the championship would need to follow suit, and instead of relegating 3, also relegate 6?
Meaning Wycombe would have to come 18th or higher to stay up.
Bearing in mind this year's promotees are in the bottom 3, and there's a humoungous gap between the divisions, that would be a hell of an ask, and could lead to a miserable season watching crappy thrashings on ifollow on your own, in soulless BCD games
So erm, let's see eh?!
Promoting 3 from league 1 would see us go up on points per game.
That'd be a very strange mixture of being pleased at the massive income, and hitting our highest position in history, mixed with not really being able to celebrate it too much because it's been done on a technicality, and not being able to watch at least half a season of the games in the ground!
If there are no relegations though, and the premier league needs to reduce down from 23 the next season, they'd presumably need to relegate 6 teams, and then receive 3 up to get back to 20.
That surely means the championship would need to follow suit, and instead of relegating 3, also relegate 6?
Meaning Wycombe would have to come 18th or higher to stay up.
Bearing in mind this year's promotees are in the bottom 3, and there's a humoungous gap between the divisions, that would be a hell of an ask, and could lead to a miserable season watching crappy thrashings on ifollow on your own, in soulless BCD games
So erm, let's see eh?!
I agree - If this request was made then I can see it being part of document the Premier league puts to it's members and any potential legal opposition. This smacks of "Exhausting all other avenues" that you would need to demonstrate to claim a "force majeure"
So they will be putting together costings for options such as this - We can't have matches at club grounds because of demands on policing... so maybe have all games at one venue and all the players tested beforehand...Then say that it can't happen because it would be an improper restriction on players liberty.
So if we can't do the whole "training camp with no Covid and no family allowed" option we have to go with players using masks and gloves....which can't happen because it would affect their ability to run etc...
Over the next few days we will hear lots of "plans" being leaked to the press - all of them are essentially designed to fail.
I can see them gradually pushing the onus onto the players who will then be forced to pull the plug, which is pretty shameful really - Not a good sign that some clubs seem all set to want to go ahead over and above the concerns of their own players.
Once all avenues have been explored....or the government further extends lockdown for a 2 - 3 week period with some minor weakening then it will finally get cancelled like it should have ages ago!
Well that will happen in league 1 aswell if Wycombe stay down and no one goes up.
I do have sympathy given you were on the verge of your greatest ever season particularly as it's hard to maintain that momentum especially with the cash crisis for next six months. Seems Wycombe are a reasonably well run club but you had cash issues at end of last season.
It's always tough for clubs to keep defying the odds. I remember Chesterfield in 14/15 made the play offs of league 1, now in non league. Swindon made the final that year and they've been in league 2 a few years now. Walsall were a point from the championship in 2016, now bottom half in league 2. Yeovil actually made the championship in 2013, now non league.
Bar a select few clubs in each division, gravity always pulls you down, even more so with lack of matchday income.
Seems like a total disregard for player (and their families) safety to me.
All these tweets have so many people saying "won't happen" underneath.
And you can't blame them!
I suspected bullshit, upon reading the story and reading the first line of “with West Ham, Man City and Arsenal likely to host games because they are not surrounded by housing” my bullshit detector meter had gone sky high. Arsenals ground is completely surrounded by housing. In fact the ground is literally attached to housing. Further down the article I read the following ..
“According to the sun” . Then I knew for sure this was a bullshit article.
You guys love being dramatic. For some reasons, fear and doom mongering seem to be the go to thing to do. They'll obviously come up with precautions to avoid as much risk as possible. The world at a certain point should start trying to get things moving and functioning one way or another despite the virus still being at large. It's not feasible to wait until the vaccine comes out which is a long way from now.
I for one don't understand why every single attempt and idea proposed to try to restart things out there is met with such pessimism and doom mongering attitude. These guys out there are at least trying to come up with solution rather than just sit and quake in fear and perpetrate hopelessness.
Because they havent came up with a viable solution.
Players eg aguero in the last few days have criticised the league re restarting
Tell me how many players have asthma, how may players kids have asthma, or how many players have wives that have had cancer.
These are the risk factors the premier League must take into account when wanting to restart the league, if anything happens to them the league would be liable.
There is no fear mongering we are living in a pandemic which there is no cure for football is not essential.
Just wow, if true. Madness from Premier League and the only reason is money. They can now stop with this "football family" when they don't care about fans. I guess, if this happens, that is over with social distancing in England and people are now allowed to go wherever they want. Pubs, bars, nightcubs, restaurants, cinemas and so on. Because we can't have one rule for footballers and one for rest of society? I wonder what Boris Johnson and goverment will say.
Because people have their heads in the sand, same as in this thread.
Despite numerous reports to the contrary, people still claim there will be no football for months. It has been fairly obvious that the leagues intent to finish their seasons. There is just too much money at stake.
There is social distancing in Germany and yet teams are training. The clubs have special permits.
Correct but it’ll fall on deaf ears to those who fall into the category you’re referring to. They are incapable of logical thinking. Case in point literally the person who quoted you. There is not going to be a ‘perfectly viable solution’ to any of this. Its unprecedented and every idea thrown out is going to have holes. The problem is the minute you start heading down ‘what ifs’ then there is literally no point in even bothering with anything.
There are two options, you resume as soon as you’re practically able to (and the government allows you)and use every precaution necessary (this is what the powers that be are working on) It doesn’t mean you want people to die and don’t care about players families. This is called preparation and common sense. Non essential retail companies are having the same discussions and yet you do not see waves of people condemning McDonalds for being inhumane despite the fact the food they serve is an abomination to the bodies and internal organs of the general public. (Honestly the state of their cheeseburgers)
If a large majority of footballers don’t agree with this (I doubt this based on what players are saying) and believe it’s too risky you have option two, you end football until a vaccine, which as we know could take years.
And unless there’s a mass roll out of finance and resources across the whole of football, the likelyhood is that’ll be the end of the majority of football clubs and a mass of unemployed people.
That being said nobody should be forced to play and players should definitely be given the option.
But at the same time, understand that the vast majority of fit and healthy people (who don’t live with or interact with those that fall under the high risk category) are going to be expected to return to work at some point. That includes every non essential who cannot work from home, footballers aren’t going to get special dispensation.
I think the FA should just make up their mind and conclude the season NOW one way or the other and look towards mitigating the same scenario for next season.
I feel that the longer this process of restart meetings keep going, the less people are going to care about who gets the title/ relegation. It will be again a sense of just "get on with it"
I feel that the longer this process of restart meetings keep going, the less people are going to care about who gets the title/ relegation. It will be again a sense of just "get on with it"
I’m thinking of the GIF of Maud Flanders and replacing children with players
So what happens if say a player tests positive after a week?