Every team will of course vote in their own interest and so they should. That way you should end up with an outcome which benefits the majority, which is probably all you can ask for in the current circumstances.
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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Think it is best to see what happens within the next 10 days in the Bundesliga before writing anything off. It's good to have some protocol in place, test it as they are, then adjust accordingly. If players and staff are safe between now and 10 days, then great. But if people are testing positive, better to learn what happened, contain it, and make decisions based on the likelihood of spread.
When it comes to voting, clubs should vote for what they think is best for them. That's their earned right for being part of the Premier League. Everyone has their own sporting agenda, can't fault them for that. If the league is smart, they would make the vote anonymous, tally up the votes, then make an announcement to everyone. almost like a knockout draw...every team has one ball, two choices of for or against. put your one choice in the unmarked ball. balls are then put into a mixer, drawn out one by one. this should be a transparent show, but nope.
When it comes to voting, clubs should vote for what they think is best for them. That's their earned right for being part of the Premier League. Everyone has their own sporting agenda, can't fault them for that. If the league is smart, they would make the vote anonymous, tally up the votes, then make an announcement to everyone. almost like a knockout draw...every team has one ball, two choices of for or against. put your one choice in the unmarked ball. balls are then put into a mixer, drawn out one by one. this should be a transparent show, but nope.
so basically ,The FA Cup coming back now would be better than the PL. If they are to be weird atmospheres behind closed doors, better they're suspenseful sudden death games?
Da cup cum bak nao wud b bttr dan da pl, if dey r 2 b wird atmosfears bhind closed dors betta der suspenceful sudan def games
Koln haven't isolated the whole team and retested everyone else and found to be negative, they just remove infected players. Not sure why Dresden squad and staff have gone into 14 day isolation, maybe that will change. With mass and rapid testing in theory there's no need for the whole squad to isolate now as they can all just get re-tested and get the all clear to train and play while the two infected sit out. Problem comes when more and more players test positive as obviously anyone can get infected at any moment after testing negative, it can unravel quickly with each round of tests.
The local health authority decided to put the team into quarantine. Nothing the club can do about it. Presumably they did it because by the time the third test was taken, the squad was back training as one group. At the time of the second test (which came back negative for everyone) a few days earlier, they were still split into smaller training groups.
Its bizarre how many people can't distinguish between voiding and abandoning/curtailing the season! Two completely different things with very different outcomes!
I've seen a few people on here suggest that the Premier League could promote 3 teams this season without relegation, so making a 23 team league next season. What people don't seem to think about is that means 6 teams will be relegated next season, so even a big or medium sized club could find themselves getting relegated next season. Why would teams like Southampton, Crystal Palace, Burnley and Everton who are safe this year, vote for 6 relegation spots next year?
It also means an extra 6 league games in a season that may not start until September/October.
Personally what I think should happen is that they should forget about neutral venues and aim to restart the league on 27/06 and finish the season over the next 5 weeks (This is 7 weeks today so allows for training to resume in 4 weeks) If its still not possible to do this then they would have to abandon the current season based on ppg or something similar?
Next season needs to be scaled down, no league cup, no community shield, no European super cup, maybe even no FA Cup just for one season until this virus is under better control.
People saw this coming a mile off. Actually they saw it coming 10 miles off. It's virtually dominoes.
Well you were discussing the semantics and the importance of the difference between the terms voiding and 'ending', in response to someone who claimed the Dutch voided their season. But in your explanation you went on to say ''By contrast If we cancel the season and decided the champions and who gets relegated with the present table then the season isn't voided.''
So by that reasoning seeing as the Eredivisie declared no champions and relegated no teams then it must have been voided.
Now technically the Dutch league wasn't actually voided (even though it pretty much was). But every time someone on here says it was voided, like clockwork someone pops up to be pedantic and explain the differences between the terms. So i'm not trying to be a dick mate i'm just joining in the pedantry
That depends on the league, the Dutch didn't technically void the Eredivisie. But the outcome to what they did do is very similar to if they had voided. Contrast that to the French who did declare champions and relegate teams, now that is a very different outcome to voiding.
Really man? Is that really all it takes to make you feel patronised? People discussing nomenclature?Well you were discussing the semantics and the importance of the difference between the terms voiding and 'ending', in response to someone who claimed the Dutch voided their season. But in your explanation you went on to say ''By contrast If we cancel the season and decided the champions and who gets relegated with the present table then the season isn't voided.''
So by that reasoning seeing as the Eredivisie declared no champions and relegated no teams then it must have been voided.
Now technically the Dutch league wasn't actually voided (even though it pretty much was). But every time someone on here says it was voided, like clockwork someone pops up to be pedantic and explain the differences between the terms. So i'm not trying to be a dick mate i'm just joining in the pedantry
edit: By the way never spoke about the Dutch voiding their season. Heck I'm just finding out they did on this page. All I did was backup the guy on the point that there's a difference between the terms (as he was being called petty and the terms were just semantics). Whoever voided their system has nothing to do with me
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so many have been saying this would happen. Its so obvious!
The EPL would soon be reduced to Everton U23s vs Stratford School 1st XI (stepping in for entire West Ham Football Club).
Buy yeah, so long as @Dumbstar and his pals can gaze at his * in the evenings, who cares, right?
Yes that prospect of 6 relegated in one go is madness. A team could find they're cut adrift by the autumn!
Without boring on about my other boys, someone suggested it might suit us to go to the champ without relegations happening,as the weakest three would still be there.
But when you think of it we'd have a near impossible battle to finish 18th or higher as 6 would still go down.
As the championship would be the one division that didn't change size.
If they had voided the league they wouldn't have used the current table to choose European places or payout prize money. They would have either had to revert back to the 18/19 season for European places or base it off a coefficient.
If you were to do that in England it would mean Spurs getting a Champions League place instead of Leicester.
Just ban this guy ffs
I never said they voided their league mate, read my post
I said the outcome of what they did do was very similar to if they had voided.
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Totally agree. Not to mention the fact that it would result in the league having to squeeze in a lot of extra fixtures during a time in which, in all likelihood, the virus is going to make a comeback. It’s asking for trouble.
Man you really mistook the tone of that post, i was half taking the piss.
I couldn't feel patronised by your reply to someone else.
I realised that from your subsequent posts mate, as i said i genuinely wasn't trying to be a dick.
With TheFA cup, cups in Europe and eventually quarantine for 14 days every time you go abroad for Chelsea, ManUtd and Man City (BBC Today) this season is not going to end until late August or mid September. I wrote about that few pages ago. It is not only 9 games. But I guess you just looked at Liverpool in this case and what is best for them.
So. You kill another season? Instead of just fixing this with easiest way possible you are destroying next one too. Cancel, give Liverpool title and fix rest of standings. That means also fixing leagues under PL.
my turn to feel like a dickMan you really mistook the tone of that post, i was half taking the piss.
I couldn't feel patronised by your reply to someone else.
I realised that from your subsequent posts mate, as i said i genuinely wasn't trying to be a dick.
Apologies
Yep, a 23 man league is too much of a risk for current PL sides. It's not in their interest to opt for that ahead of other alternatives. Shame as it would probably make for quite a fun season.
So in the 1st division they're quarantining just infected players and this team has its entire team quarantined? Why is there a difference? Are they not humans up in the first division?
Nothing to do with the division or even the club. I gave a likely explanation above.
No way? How could this happen?
Along with the footballing authorities I thought football and it’s players operated outside the laws of microorganisms and biology!?
It's like a fecking police state being promoted on bbc news 24 right now. How to track not just your location, but your biometrics and how close you are to someone else.
feck off. I'd rather die.
feck off. I'd rather die.
its interesting you suggest going ppg, I can’t see it because that would mean relegating someone like villa despite the fact they could have got out of trouble. That definitely seems unfair to me. There is no way people vote for that.
the most fair way currently seems to to cancel the season with no relegation or promotion (like you I can’t see them expanding the league). I also don’t see the efl taking it lightly
Do you seriously believe you can't be tracked right now?
German league CEO Seifert just gave an interview and said they always knew a team going into quarantine is something that could happen. They'll be looking at the implications for Dresden's fixture arrangements next week.
Not legally. Not voluntarily. Not what my heart rate is.
Well of course, that's on another level.
But mere fact that any of us owns a smartphone means we are voluntarily agreeing to some extent of it, and probably unknowingly there is something more going on behind the scenes.
An interesting talking point
https://www.skysports.com/football/...clubs-should-note-extra-risk-to-black-players
https://www.skysports.com/football/...clubs-should-note-extra-risk-to-black-players
The more time they bicker about finishing this season, the lesser the effort/ thoughts put into for planning the next season.
It's imperative people start talking about that! Because if we keep talking about restarting again and again, might as well cancel next season.
Put this season to bed one way or the other and make sufficient backup plans for next season in case we get the second wave.
It's imperative people start talking about that! Because if we keep talking about restarting again and again, might as well cancel next season.
Put this season to bed one way or the other and make sufficient backup plans for next season in case we get the second wave.
The main reason for this is social issues & environment. I wouldn't think it would so much apply to millionaire footballers who live lives with far more advantages than the average person.
Do we know that for a fact?
If it's already happened when they haven't even started playing yet god knows how they think they're going to finish the season. If one gets infected it screws up the league for about 8 teams.
Pack up the nets and dismantle the posts,
Pour away the water and retire Ed Wood
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For nothing now can ever come to any good.
Neither null and void or declaring current positions final solves the issue of Covid19 being around beyond August or September. If It‘s still around then we won’t see a normal season start in August, and you can’t start one in November or December unless you scrap other competitions to squeeze the games in.
People act like cancelling the season will make Covid 19 not be an issue any more.
People act like cancelling the season will make Covid 19 not be an issue any more.
Yeah, dunno what Mcanuff is on about to be honest. The virus isn’t racist, it’s not attacking black and Asians because of their skin colour. It’s that black and Asians are more likely to have those underlying health issues the virus is lethal in. Issues you won’t have as a black or Asian millionaire footballer because you’ll be eating well and living in a stable environment.
Its happening right now if you have a smart phone or pay by card