Cristiano Ronaldo - performances 2017/18

Was a bit disappointed with the way he scored the left foot goal, you expect him to bury it in a way that the keeper has not chance.
But, that's the kind of standard he's set.
Don't want to watch Ronaldo decline. :(
 
El Kommander is back
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Perfect time for him to get some momentum as well, PSG will definitely not be happy to see that hat trick

If Real can keep the game 0-0 for a good period PSG will get more anxious knowing Ronaldo just needs one chance to swing the game Real's way
 
He looked good yesterday. Perhaps hitting form at just the right time. Would anybody really be surprised to see him put in some seriously clinical performances now it's crunch time?
 
He looked good yesterday. Perhaps hitting form at just the right time. Would anybody really be surprised to see him put in some seriously clinical performances now it's crunch time?

Crunch time for what though?. There already out of the league and the cup. Showing up for 6-8 games a year shouldn’t be praised. He’s been poor this season along with the rest of the team. When real win people claim it was all Ronaldo. Now that there playing badly it’s somehow the rest of the players fault. Can’t have it both ways.
 
Crunch time for what though?. There already out of the league and the cup. Showing up for 6-8 games a year shouldn’t be praised. He’s been poor this season along with the rest of the team. When real win people claim it was all Ronaldo. Now that there playing badly it’s somehow the rest of the players fault. Can’t have it both ways.

I'm obviously talking about the Champions League. Doesn't take a genius to see that Real have underperformed on the whole this season including Cristiano. The league has been over for weeks so it'll be interesting to see if they step it up in the champions league seeing as it's all they have to play for really.

Ronnie was a major part of their success in the Champions league last season, back to back hat-tricks in the quarters and semis and a brace in the final, those kind of performances will always gain the plaudits.
 
Crunch time for what though?. There already out of the league and the cup. Showing up for 6-8 games a year shouldn’t be praised. He’s been poor this season along with the rest of the team. When real win people claim it was all Ronaldo. Now that there playing badly it’s somehow the rest of the players fault. Can’t have it both ways.

Ronaldo's performances should be getting poorer, he's 33.

Fact is though even at 33, Ronaldo is better than many other legends of the game at the same age - Pele/Maradona wasn't as good as Ronaldo aged 33, aged 33 Ronaldo is the current Ballon d'Or holder.

People don't see that as a positive though, they see it as a negative and try to use it against him as a reason why Messi is better.
 
I'm obviously talking about the Champions League. Doesn't take a genius to see that Real have underperformed on the whole this season including Cristiano. The league has been over for weeks so it'll be interesting to see if they step it up in the champions league seeing as it's all they have to play for really.

Ronnie was a major part of their success in the Champions league last season, back to back hat-tricks in the quarters and semis and a brace in the final, those kind of performances will always gain the plaudits.

Inzaghi never won Balon’s on the back of his insane CL goal scoring .
 
Crunch time for what though?. There already out of the league and the cup. Showing up for 6-8 games a year shouldn’t be praised. He’s been poor this season along with the rest of the team. When real win people claim it was all Ronaldo. Now that there playing badly it’s somehow the rest of the players fault. Can’t have it both ways.

For the biggest competition in club football by far. Showing up for 6-8 games should be more than praised if they're the right games to show up in, I don't think he has it in him this season tho.

As for your last sentence, of course you can have it both ways. If you're the best performing player in a team you'll get the most praise when the team wins and you'll get the least blame when they don't win. In actuality it doesn't quite work like this and he's been getting his share of criticism this season, plenty of people are calling for him to retire or go to the MLS and we even have Madrid fans here that have wanted him benched for the season and sold at the end of it.
 
Inzaghi never won Balon’s on the back of his insane CL goal scoring .
Maybe because his record wasn’t as ‘insane’. Van Nistelrooy had a much better record than him. Ronaldo’s has surpassed anyone’s in the last ten years.
 
Maybe because his record wasn’t as ‘insane’. Van Nistelrooy had a much better record than him. Ronaldo’s has surpassed anyone’s in the last ten years.
Yeah maybe thrased that wrong , the point was more about the important goals he scored in key moments.
 
Inzaghi never won Balon’s on the back of his insane CL goal scoring .

Worth mentioning he was half the player Ronaldo is. His goalscoring record was decent but not on the level of Ronaldo's. 2007 was Kaka's year and rightly so, Milan's most decisive player.
 
Yeah maybe thrased that wrong , the point was more about the important goals he scored in key moments.

He scored the winning goals in the final in 2007 but didn't have the influence Ronnie had in the quarters, semi's or final last year and as I already said, Kaka was the standout player that year.
 
Such a twat the way he jumps and lands when he celebrates. Looks like a 7 year old doing an impression of a wrestler.
 
He literally said "part of the reason" in the post you quoted

Thank you, I am glad some people can read.

Doesn't change much overall.

The problem obviously isn’t all to do with Ronaldo at Madrid, far from it.

But when the team is built around him and playing to his strengths, it means that when he doesn’t perform, it will effect the results for them. The blame mainly on Perez and Zidane for not shifting the focus away from reliance on him.
 
For the biggest competition in club football by far. Showing up for 6-8 games should be more than praised if they're the right games to show up in, I don't think he has it in him this season tho.

As for your last sentence, of course you can have it both ways. If you're the best performing player in a team you'll get the most praise when the team wins and you'll get the least blame when they don't win. In actuality it doesn't quite work like this and he's been getting his share of criticism this season, plenty of people are calling for him to retire or go to the MLS and we even have Madrid fans here that have wanted him benched for the season and sold at the end of it.

So your saying as long as he turns it on in the champions league then Real fans will put up with him being poor for the other 40 odd games a season??. I know what I’m saying is on the exaggerated side. As he has had some good league games this year, but as a whole he’s been poor. He has 2 league titles in 8 year at Madrid. That’s poor considering the sides they have had.
 
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The problem obviously isn’t all to do with Ronaldo at Madrid, far from it.

But when the team is built around him and playing to his strengths, it means that when he doesn’t perform, it will effect the results for them. The blame mainly on Perez and Zidane for not shifting the focus away from reliance on him.
I can read thank you and agree with you but probably will be his last season there.
 
So your saying as long as he turns it on in the champions league then Real fans will put up with him being poor for the other 40 odd games a season??. I know what I’m saying is on the exaggerated side. As he has had some good league games this year, but as a whole he’s been poor. He has 2 league titles in 8 year at Madrid. That’s poor considering the sides they have had.

Put up with him? :lol: They'd turn gay for him as they did last season. Pretending he's been poor for 40 games a season doesn't make it true despite a lot of people loving to do it. He's arguably been Real Madrid's best player so far this season. Mainly because everyone else is playing way below their level but it is what it is.

2 leagues in 9 years is poor but considering who they've been up against, the margins they lost those titles by and what they've been doing in the Champions League of course noone will care. 2 leagues and 3 CLs vs 5 leagues and 2 CLs... they've been playing against Barcelona's golden era, "the greatest team of all time" and during his time there they've been just as successful.

The league more than any competition is a squad game and plenty of things can happen during a season that end up influencing the final standings. Ronaldo was incredible in 2013/14 for example, best player in the world, got injured at the end of the season and Madrid ended up throwing the league away without him on the pitch. It's football, things like that happen.
 
Put up with him? :lol: They'd turn gay for him as they did last season. Pretending he's been poor for 40 games a season doesn't make it true despite a lot of people loving to do it. He's arguably been Real Madrid's best player so far this season. Mainly because everyone else is playing way below their level but it is what it is.

2 leagues in 9 years is poor but considering who they've been up against, the margins they lost those titles by and what they've been doing in the Champions League of course noone will care. 2 leagues and 3 CLs vs 5 leagues and 2 CLs... they've been playing against Barcelona's golden era, "the greatest team of all time" and during his time there they've been just as successful.

The league more than any competition is a squad game and plenty of things can happen during a season that end up influencing the final standings. Ronaldo was incredible in 2013/14 for example, best player in the world, got injured at the end of the season and Madrid ended up throwing the league away without him on the pitch. It's football, things like that happen.

You said that there are Real Madrid fans on this site who have wanted him benched. My quote was in agreement with them. No fans of any club would allow a player to only come good for certain games.
 
You said that there are Real Madrid fans on this site who have wanted him benched. My quote was in agreement with them. No fans of any club would allow a player to only come good for certain games.

Of course they would and it happened last season. It literally happens to all players as all players have ups and downs in form. Most Real Madrid fans are with Ronaldo as you can see by the way the Bernabeu has been treating him.
 
So your saying as long as he turns it on in the champions league then Real fans will put up with him being poor for the other 40 odd games a season??
If he wins us the CL every season like last? Of course we'd "put up" with him. Are you kidding?
 
Really?. Even if it meant not challenging for the title?. You guys have enough champions leagues anyway :D
We'll figure out how to deal with that. Nothing a Harry Kane can't solve
 
Where would he go though?
I am not Jorge Mendes to answer this question :lol:
Accuracy when representing someone's arguments is important, no? I was simply correcting your error in comprehending the guy's post, no worries.
No problem, but my opinion didn't changed with that particular word.
 
You can say whatever you want about Ronaldo declining and what not but if I was a Madrid fan, there is no player in the world I would swap with him for the rest of the campaign
 
You can say whatever you want about Ronaldo declining and what not but if I was a Madrid fan, there is no player in the world I would swap with him for the rest of the campaign
Neymar? Messi?
 
Thank you, I am glad some people can read.



The problem obviously isn’t all to do with Ronaldo at Madrid, far from it.

But when the team is built around him and playing to his strengths, it means that when he doesn’t perform, it will effect the results for them. The blame mainly on Perez and Zidane for not shifting the focus away from reliance on him.

To be fair they did try to play the ball to Benzema too whenever I watched them play, but he just couldn’t score.
 
Ronaldo has performed below his standard so far this season, but that also shows what ridiculous demands we have. He scored in every single CL game in the group stage, 9 goals in 6 games. He has now scored 11 goals in 18 la liga games. Overall 20 goals in 24 games. Most other players would call that decent stats.

There have been many problems in Real Madrid this season. Last season they had the best midfield in the world imo and a world class midfield on the bench. This year they have not performed at the same level. They also play very nonchalant sometimes. Bale has been injured. Benzema has been really poor with 2 la liga goals so far. I was thinking Ronaldo would take the CF role as he only scores one touch goals nowadays anyway and they would then buy a top player to play to the left.

Anyway, the last games I think there have been some improvements. Marcelo starts to look great again, Bale is back and the midfield works better. PSG will be the real test for this team.
 
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Ronaldo has performed below his standard so far this season, but that also shows what ridiculous demands we have. He scored in every single CL game in the group stage, 9 goals in 6 games. He has now scored 11 goals in 18 la liga games. Overall 20 goals in 24 games. Most other players would call that decent stats.
That's the problem with looking at football through stats. They can lie

Good news is he's now had 2 great games and one good game this year -that's about as many as he had all of 2017(this season). Hopefully he repeats last season performance for performance :drool:
 
That's the problem with looking at football through stats. They can lie

Exactly.

Good news is he's now had 2 great games and one good game this year -that's about as many as he had all of 2017(this season). Hopefully he repeats last season performance for performance :drool:

I'm predicting 2-2 to be the result on Wednesday.
 
That's the problem with looking at football through stats. They can lie

Good news is he's now had 2 great games and one good game this year -that's about as many as he had all of 2017(this season). Hopefully he repeats last season performance for performance :drool:

Toyota’s legendary Taiichi Ohno said that he recogniced data to be important, but he put greater emphasis on facts. I agree that stats, or at least our interpretation of them, can point in the wrong direction.

However, my point was that if you take any player in the world, except Ronaldo or Messi, that player could have played really really horrible in every game, but if that player still managed to all this:
1. Be the first player in history to score in every six CL group matches
2. Score 9 goals in 6 CL matches
3. Score 11 goals in 18 La Liga matches

If any other player in the world had achieved that, we would consider him ok despite the fact he’s been really horrible.

And it is not only stats. It is also Ronaldos result.
 
If any other player in the world had achieved that, we would consider him ok despite the fact he’s been really horrible.
No, that's only true for people who judge stats without having seen the performances. If anything, any other player having the season Cristiano had so far in terms of stats and performances, we'd be saying how those stats are flukeish and not at all representative of performance. In 2017, Cristiano had a great 10 minutes against barcelona in the supercup before being unfairly sent off, then scored twice against apoel in a game where he should have scored 5 with all the sitters he missed, Getafe(good, not great, missed an incredible sitter but still scored the winner in the end), Dortmund away(great), Sevilla(great), Gremio(very good), Spurs at home(good), Apoel away(very good, but it was Apoel). In every other game he was either average or poor. In 2018, he's been poor against Celta, outright cost us the game against villarreal, then was great against Depor, good against Valencia, poor against Levante, and great against Real Sociedad. That's 10 games were he's been better than average, in 28 appeareances this season. That's a poor season. But because he's Cristiano, and because by this point last season he hadn't been much better, yet by the end of the season he was rightfully the undisputed runaway Balon D'Or winner, he's not getting nearly as much heat as someone like Benzema. And it's actually fair for that to be the case
 
No, that's only true for people who judge stats without having seen the performances. If anything, any other player having the season Cristiano had so far in terms of stats and performances, we'd be saying how those stats are flukeish and not at all representative of performance. In 2017, Cristiano had a great 10 minutes against barcelona in the supercup before being unfairly sent off, then scored twice against apoel in a game where he should have scored 5 with all the sitters he missed, Getafe(good, not great, missed an incredible sitter but still scored the winner in the end), Dortmund away(great), Sevilla(great), Gremio(very good), Spurs at home(good), Apoel away(very good, but it was Apoel). In every other game he was either average or poor. In 2018, he's been poor against Celta, outright cost us the game against villarreal, then was great against Depor, good against Valencia, poor against Levante, and great against Real Sociedad. That's 10 games were he's been better than average, in 28 appeareances this season. That's a poor season. But because he's Cristiano, and because by this point last season he hadn't been much better, yet by the end of the season he was rightfully the undisputed runaway Balon D'Or winner, he's not getting nearly as much heat as someone like Benzema. And it's actually fair for that to be the case

How many poor games did he have while not playing out of position as the lone striker?

Every single game bar one or two when he played there not only he was poor but so was the whole team.
 
Complete nonsense, 2 good games in 2017 and compared to Benzema, one thing is to compare with past performances, and yes they have been poor, but twisting facts in some sort of alternative analysis without looking at the collective context like if the 2 can be separated 1 from another is just strange to say the least.
 
How many poor games did he have while not playing out of position as the lone striker?

Every single game bar one or two when he played there not only he was poor but so was the whole team.
How does any of that matter to this discussion? I'm pointing out that Cristiano so far as had a very poor season, regardless of his stats, which come almost entirely from the few good games he's had.

Yes, the entire team has been poor, but that's not the point. Mine's a statement, not a criticism of Cristiano