Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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amolbhatia50k said:
Hell obviously do great there, but for his own sake he shouldn't give up playing in a top league yet. Winning the league once with Madrid would be worth more than 5 pointless French League titles.
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That's true but i don't think Madrid want him anymore? If they are going to cash out now is the time, they can still probably get at least 50m out of him that won't be the case in 3/4 years time. A loss of 30m is a very small price to pay for what they have got out of him.
 
I dont see Ronaldo going anywhere except PSG. Extremely rich club who can pay his wages. Competing in UCL regularly nowadays. Excellent City too.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Hell obviously do great there, but for his own sake he shouldn't give up playing in a top league yet. Winning the league once with Madrid would be worth more than 5 pointless French League titles.
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The move to France hasn't done Zlatan's reputation any harm. Apart from Spain, England and Germany are the only top leagues left. He's not moving to Germany and England might be too much of a physical demand if he wants to play well into his mid thirties.
 
Adisa said:
The move to France hasn't done Zlatan's reputation any harm. Apart from Spain, England and Germany are the only top leagues left. He's not moving to Germany and England might be too much of a physical demand if he wants to play well into his mid thirties.
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At the same time, Zlatan's achievements there will be seen as fairly small. A player of his level is expected to batter that league. The team is expected to walk the league as well.

2mufc0 said:
That's true but i don't think Madrid want him anymore? If they are going to cash out now is the time, they can still probably get at least 50m out of him that won't be the case in 3/4 years time. A loss of 30m is a very small price to pay for what they have got out of him.
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CL is the biggest draw with PSG. I don't think they're far off from from winning it. So maybe Ronaldo going there will coincide with that.
 
Adisa said:
The move to France hasn't done Zlatan's reputation any harm. Apart from Spain, England and Germany are the only top leagues left. He's not moving to Germany and England might be too much of a physical demand if he wants to play well into his mid thirties.
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Nobody really cares about the French league do they
 
It would we nice to stop mentioning a decline sarcastically every time this thread is bumped. There's no need for it.
 
2 assists and a goal.

He's second (11) behind only Suarez (12) on most assists in La Liga this season.
 
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Cristiano Ronaldo became the first player to score 30 goals in six successive La Liga seasons as Real Madrid beat Eibar comfortably.
 
Snow said:
No one has done it in England, Germany or Italy either I think.
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Stolen from another posters comment Edit: this may be all goals in all competitions and not just the league.

year----apps---goals
63/64---31------51
64/65---34------41
65/66---39------16
66/67---45------43
76/68---46------30
68/69---35------37
69/70---38------42
70/71---47------39
71/72---48------50
72/73---49------67
73/74---48------43
74/75---43------30
75/76---34------35
76/77---37------48
77/78---42------32

Gerd Muller Germany
 
VanGaalEra said:
2 assists and a goal.

He's second (11) behind only Suarez (12) on most assists in La Liga this season.
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But he does nothing for the team except score goals,and the goals are not even that important for the team.

Nah, still an all time great and one of the absolute best footballers around
 
There's no doubting Ronaldo's match winning prowess and goals tally.

But Real could become a more balanced side overall moving forward without him. Other players will benefit from not having to cater to his superstar status. The team is build around him and looks to ensure that he scores the goals.

Bale and Benzema's output would increase. I have no doubts. Bale in particular.

Benzema would be a 35+ goals a season striker in any other era at Real. He is quite unselfish for such a good goalscorer.
 
I'd still bring in Ronaldo next season if it's even a possibility. 25+ goals and 10+ assists is good enough for me.

Commercially, he'd virtually pay for himself. But what about performances? He's several notches above where Memphis will ever be and galaxies ahead of Young of Lingard. Mourinho knows Ronaldo.

The open remaining question is what to do with Rooney. I'd love to find a buyer for him but I doubt that's going to be possible. But that's another thread.
 
Stack said:
Stolen from another posters comment Edit: this may be all goals in all competitions and not just the league.

year----apps---goals
63/64---31------51
64/65---34------41
65/66---39------16
66/67---45------43
76/68---46------30
68/69---35------37
69/70---38------42
70/71---47------39
71/72---48------50
72/73---49------67
73/74---48------43
74/75---43------30
75/76---34------35
76/77---37------48
77/78---42------32

Gerd Muller Germany
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I thought of Müller when I typed this but it's true, Müller didn't manage it in a row in the league, in fact he didn't manage to score 30 or more in the league on 6 separate occasions.
 
WhoDaGOAT said:
There's no doubting Ronaldo's match winning prowess and goals tally.

But Real could become a more balanced side overall moving forward without him. Other players will benefit from not having to cater to his superstar status. The team is build around him and looks to ensure that he scores the goals.

Bale and Benzema's output would increase. I have no doubts. Bale in particular.

Benzema would be a 35+ goals a season striker in any other era at Real. He is quite unselfish for such a good goalscorer.
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I think you're making too many assumptions here. Real have one of the best goal scorers of all time. You only win if you score more goals than your opponent so naturally the focus is more towards him because that's their best chance of winning. This is the club that has had Puskas, Di Stefano and Hugo Sánchez in their ranks who all have phenomenal records and Raúl, who has not as good as goal per game record as those 3 but still a world class ratio and longevity to boot but Ronaldo has not only broken their records, he's smashed them.

They won't replace his quality for a long time and I don't think they will be become more balanced after he's gone because he has gone for their lack of balance is more down to their ever changing midfield.
 
Snow said:
I think you're making too many assumptions here. Real have one of the best goal scorers of all time. You only win if you score more goals than your opponent so naturally the focus is more towards him because that's their best chance of winning. This is the club that has had Puskas, Di Stefano and Hugo Sánchez in their ranks who all have phenomenal records and Raúl, who has not as good as goal per game record as those 3 but still a world class ratio and longevity to boot but Ronaldo has not only broken their records, he's smashed them.

They won't replace his quality for a long time and I don't think they will be become more balanced after he's gone because he has gone for their lack of balance is more down to their ever changing midfield.
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The idea is to control the game while defending well and taking the majority of your chances, with a variety of attacking methods to stay unpredictable.

They don't need to replace his individual output. They need to play better as a team. An attacking trio can replicate his output. Bale and Benzema have over 30 goals each in their locker. Add another wide player with the work ethic to go with his quality and they're in business.

This isn't Football Manager. The best team on paper isn't the best team in reality. Plus, he's 31 now. They need to prepare for the future.

Jesé has real quality. He was unlucky with his serious injury.
 
WhoDaGOAT said:
The idea is to control the game while defending well and taking the majority of your chances, with a variety of attacking methods to stay unpredictable.

They don't need to replace his individual output. They need to play better as a team. An attacking trio can replicate his output. Bale and Benzema have over 30 goals each in their locker. Add another wide player with the work ethic to go with his quality and they're in business.

This isn't Football Manager. The best team on paper isn't the best team in reality. Plus, he's 31 now. They need to prepare for the future.

Jesé has real quality. He was unlucky with his serious injury.
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Bale has never scored 30 goals in a season. Replacing Ronaldo with Jesé won't change the team a lot regarding how they play. It certainly won't give them more control. For that they need a change in midfield and that change could just as well happen with Ronaldo in the team but frankly, Real have never really played like that that I can remember and I don't think they will after Ronaldo retire.
 
WhoDaGOAT said:
There's no doubting Ronaldo's match winning prowess and goals tally.

But Real could become a more balanced side overall moving forward without him. Other players will benefit from not having to cater to his superstar status. The team is build around him and looks to ensure that he scores the goals.

Bale and Benzema's output would increase. I have no doubts. Bale in particular.

Benzema would be a 35+ goals a season striker in any other era at Real. He is quite unselfish for such a good goalscorer.
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That is the big question. Sometimes I have the feeling that next year it will be like this . Fantastic individual statistics but the team will continue to suffer. An influence that goes from a game system focused to maintain his perfect position in the field to the insistence on shooting the free kicks.
Madrid plays 4-3-3 sacrificing the classic number 10 because it is the best system for the squad or because our super star doesn´t want to be a lonely striker?.
It may also happen that we sell him and discover later that the problem was not Cristiano.As Snow said he is one of the best scorers of all time. That should never be a problem
 
carvajal said:
That is the big question. Sometimes I have the feeling that next year it will be like this . Fantastic individual statistics but the team will continue to suffer. An influence that goes from a game system focused to maintain his perfect position in the field to the insistence on shooting the free kicks.
Madrid plays 4-3-3 sacrificing the classic number 10 because it is the best system for the squad or because our super star doesn´t want to be a lonely striker?.
It may also happen that we sell him and discover later that the problem was not Cristiano.As Snow said he is one of the best scorers of all time. That should never be a problem
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Ironically this is a very similar scenario which allowed Ronaldo to flourish at United in the first plae... when we dumped our top scorer RVN back in 2006.

Now granted RVN seemed to have more attitude problems, but Ronaldo's "my teammates aren't at my level" rant several weeks back certainly implies all is not that well in the Real dressing room.
 
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