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2014-15 Performances

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6.2 Season Average Rating
Appearances
29
Clean sheets
9
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2
Assists
3
Yellow cards
4
Pogue Mahone said:
Aye, because having a history of defending one under-performing Manchester United manager means I'm chomping the bit to attack the next one.

You haven't really thought that through, have you? (a recurring theme in your posts)
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Same as the way everyone who got on Moyes' back early are now doing the same to LVG?

Just because you defended one doesn't mean you're certainly going to defend the next, and vice versa.
 
"Blind is not ready to play. He has now a brace on his knee, 10 days' rest, then we have to make another scan and we can say more about his injury. It's not so bad as the doctors are thinking after the match, but it shall be a long story, I believe, but not six months or something."

According to the transcript on the United website.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Aye, because having a history of defending one under-performing Manchester United manager means I'm chomping the bit to attack the next one.

You haven't really thought that through, have you? (a recurring theme in your posts)
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You've been attacking LVG at every opportunity so far this season, taking constant little digs at him.

Strange really, you spent 3/4 of last season defending Moyes and yet 10 games into this season and you've been all over LVG.
 
DJ Jeff said:
Same as the way everyone who got on Moyes' back early are now doing the same to LVG?

Just because you defended one doesn't mean you're certainly going to defend the next, and vice versa.
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Not sure if that's a rhetorical question?

But yes, a lot of the people on here who were quick to get on Moyes case have been quick to complain about Van Gaal too.
 
Not that worried about Blind, with Carrick and Herrera on the way back we'll manage fine I guess.
 
Dobba said:
"Blind is not ready to play. He has now a brace on his knee, 10 days' rest, then we have to make another scan and we can say more about his injury. It's not so bad as the doctors are thinking after the match, but it shall be a long story, I believe, but not six months or something."

According to the transcript on the United website.
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Thank you. Seems pretty clear to me.
 
Sam said:
You've been attacking LVG at every opportunity so far this season, taking constant little digs at him.

Strange really, you spent 3/4 of last season defending Moyes and yet 10 games into this season and you've been all over LVG.
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It's really not strange at all, if you think about it. This thread isn't about me but feck it, might as well clear this up once again before letting things get back on topic.

Anyone (like me) who believes a new manager needs time will be consistent in this approach. Hence, you won't find a single post from me on here anywhere suggesting Van Gaal isn't up to the task or should be sacked. Obviously, the fact we've had our worst start in decades means the jury is still out but would be madness to write him off this early.

Regarding criticism of his tenure so far, the fact he spent so much money in the summer means we should probably expect a bit more from the team at this stage than we saw under Moyes last season (as opposed to the reality, when our results are actually worse) Also, you have to bear in mind that the reason a lot of people stuck with Moyes for longer than seemed sensible was because they had utmost faith in Fergie's decision. Something we will have learned to do as fans of the club throughout Fergie's time in charge. Obviously, this no longer applies. So it stands to reason Van Gaal won't get the same unswerving loyalty from fans who backed Moyes on the basis that Fergie always knows best.

Hope that clears things up but you really should have been able to work this all out for yourself.
 
Dobba said:
"Blind is not ready to play. He has now a brace on his knee, 10 days' rest, then we have to make another scan and we can say more about his injury. It's not so bad as the doctors are thinking after the match, but it shall be a long story, I believe, but not six months or something."

According to the transcript on the United website.
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Dont like the sound of that.
 
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How was that allowed to be posted? What clown runs our twitter account?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Not sure if that's a rhetorical question?

But yes, a lot of the people on here who were quick to get on Moyes case have been quick to complain about Van Gaal too.
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Not in anywhere near the same proportions. Van Gaal has pedigree so the caf en masse is making an obvious allowance for his bad start. No one is even panicking at all yet. Compare that to Moyes after the consecutive home losses to Everton, Newcastle and WBA last season.
 
DJ Jeff said:
Not in anywhere near the same proportions. Van Gaal has pedigree so the caf en masse is making an obvious allowance for his bad start. No one is even panicking at all yet. Compare that to Moyes after the consecutive home losses to Everton, Newcastle and WBA last season.
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For sure. Although those results were much deeper into the season, so it was fair enough that people ran out of patience.

I'm just disagreeing with the idea that you can group people into "Pro Moyes/Anti Van Gaal" vs "Pro Van Gaal/Anti Moyes" camps. A much more realistic split would be "patient" vs "impatient"
 
@Pogue Mahone

I was watching the match live when the injury occurred. Does the fact he walked off the pitch pretty comfortably might suggest the injury is not as bad as it's being made out in some quarters?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
For sure. Although those results were much deeper into the season, so it was fair enough that people ran out of patience.

I'm just disagreeing with the idea that you can group people into "Pro Moyes/Anti Van Gaal" vs "Pro Van Gaal/Anti Moyes" camps. A much more realistic split would be "patient" vs "impatient"
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Even that's a little black and white. There seems to be a continuum from "patient, trusts SAF optimist" to "impatient pessimist" with the importance of each factor varying from individual to individual. Unfortunately the negative end of the spectrum tends to be populated by people who are very black and white. It's a little like the situation 3 or 4 years ago where, if you didn't "Hate Glazer" with sufficient venom, you were automatically labelled a "Glazer lover". Haters tend not to see grey.
 
Sultan said:
@Pogue Mahone

I was watching the match live when the injury occurred. Does the fact he walked off the pitch pretty comfortably might suggest the injury is not as bad as it's being made out in some quarters?
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Afraid not, Sults. Do you remember when Heinze did his ACL? He actually played on for a good few minutes. It's possible to completely rupture a knee ligament without much pain. Apparently partial tears are more likely to cause extreme pain.

Not my own experience, mind you. I was in fecking agony when I did mine.
 
ravelston said:
Even that's a little black and white. There seems to be a continuum from "patient, trusts SAF optimist" to "impatient pessimist" with the importance of each factor varying from individual to individual. Unfortunately the negative end of the spectrum tends to be populated by people who are very black and white. It's a little like the situation 3 or 4 years ago where, if you didn't "Hate Glazer" with sufficient venom, you were automatically labelled a "Glazer lover". Haters tend not to see grey.
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I think you need to draw a Venn Diagram! ;)
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Afraid not, Sults. Do you remember when Heinze did his ACL? He actually played on for a good few minutes. It's possible to completely rupture a knee ligament without much pain. Apparently partial tears are more likely to cause extreme pain.

Not my own experience, mind you. I was in fecking agony when I did mine.
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Cheers!

Blind was a player I wanted to see pair up with Carrick and Herrera as a midfield 3, especially against top teams. I reckon the pair as holding midfielders would have been perfect.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I think you need to draw a Venn Diagram! ;)
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Oh God no.

On ACLs - mine was painless (I kind of exploded it when I skied into a cast iron pipe going a little too fast) except that, until I got it fixed, every now and then the loose end would get pinched between the tibia and the femur - that was a microsecond of 11 on the 10 point pain scale.
 
Sultan said:
@Pogue Mahone

I was watching the match live when the injury occurred. Does the fact he walked off the pitch pretty comfortably might suggest the injury is not as bad as it's being made out in some quarters?
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I walked around on a full rupture ACL for about 9 months, walked off the pitch and drove to hospital, took 9 months of being told it was medial ligament and would heal before some bright spark spotted that my knee and thigh weren't attached through the middle :-\
 
If he misses a good portion of the rest of the season I think we could be in real trouble to make the top four without decent signings in January.
 
Sam said:
You've been attacking LVG at every opportunity so far this season, taking constant little digs at him.

Strange really, you spent 3/4 of last season defending Moyes and yet 10 games into this season and you've been all over LVG.
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Did you fail comprehension in school?
Pogue spent his time disputing weak arguments based on assumption levelled against Moyes more than anything else. He wasnt defending Moyes but was pointing out how some arguments were flawed. There is a difference and it was reasonably clear. Maybe try reading things a couple of times.
 
ravelston said:
Oh God no.

On ACLs - mine was painless (I kind of exploded it when I skied into a cast iron pipe going a little too fast) except that, until I got it fixed, every now and then the loose end would get pinched between the tibia and the femur - that was a microsecond of 11 on the 10 point pain scale.
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I keep hearing from people who seemed to feel very little pain. Starting to think I'm just a massive pussy (had my suspicions about that for a while, mind you)
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I keep hearing from people who seemed to feel very little pain. Starting to think I'm just a massive pussy (had my suspicions about that for a while, mind you)
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Nah, done mine in March and initially I screamed. Compared to the people I've played against and with, I'm confident in saying that I'm more pain-tolerant nonetheless injury-prone. A mate I was playing with said that it sounded horrible.
 
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Sultan said:
Cheers!

Blind was a player I wanted to see pair up with Carrick and Herrera as a midfield 3, especially against top teams. I reckon the pair as holding midfielders would have been perfect.
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Me too. Was looking forward to that a lot.

Blind Carrick
Di Maria, Herrera, Rooney
RVP/Falcao

is a front 6 that is as good as any in the PL right now. So frustrating we cant see all 6 fully fit and on form play together and we are no approaching December!
 
It's laughable that " won't be out for six months" is actually a good news. Back in the old days, fans would've shit their pants if they'd heard someone out for 2 months. Now we take 3 months in a heartbeat
 
sammsky1 said:
Me too. Was looking forward to that a lot.

Blind Carrick
Di Maria, Herrera, Rooney
RVP/Falcao

is a front 6 that is as good as any in the PL right now. So frustrating we cant see all 6 fully fit and on form play together and we are no approaching December!
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Naah, Fabregas-Matic
Willian-Oscar-Hazard
Costa is at least as good as that front 6.
 
LvG's comments make the situation as clear as mud. Basically until the next scan we wont know anything concrete and can only hope for the best, it was such an unfortunate injury as well, just utter bad luck as opposed to fragility like some of our others.
 
Had Blind played CB for the Dutch before? Just wonder if he became a victim of us having just playing him as a CB and then the Dutch needing someone to cover since the other guy was carrying a slight knock.

It's weird how these national team coaches end up playing players in their not so natural positions because they've filled in at club level decently. Like when Jones/Smalling took over RB for United, they seemed to get picked right away as RB for England.
 
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