David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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These mistakes are natural for a young, foreign keeper. He'll.grow into the role and be a mainstay soon enough...
 
He made a terrible mistake, performance wise he was alright, did make a good save in the first half and did'nt seem to react to being bullied by West Brom.
 
some of the stuff..even from our own fans is totally overboard.

Play him in every match bar the Carling and FA Cup matches..unless we face a top 4 team.


The only time Lindegaard should get in is if DDG is injured.

We have the best man manager and top coaches. He will succeed.

What I have seen from him is the occasional lack of concentration, which I feel is the cause of some of teh goals he has conceeded. That will come with experience.

He made several good saves in the match today.

Lets also not forget the ABU nature of teh press. Anything Anti-United sells.
 
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I repeat, he made one single mistake. ONE, was Fabio terrible? He made a mistake for their goal in giving the ball away cheaply.
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He had very, very little to do (despite West Broms possession at times) and gifted them a goal and either hesitated or flapped at every single cross/set-piece in the entire match.

If you don't think he was terrible today then you and me have very different standards
 
KiD CaNtO said:
He made a terrible mistake, performance wise he was alright, did make a goid save in the first half and did'nt seem to react to being bullied by West Brom.
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Thats the key point going forward.

Having seen him play a number of times at Athletico his shot stopping is actually very good. He was fouled constantly by the West Brom players but the referee wasn't interested in following the rules. Which was interesting because he gave fouls to outfield players for less.

Mistakes are to be expected this early, as long as he learns from them he'll be fine.
 
I've said it before but when Joe Hart was De Gea's age he was on loan at Brentford, When Van Der Sar was De Gea's age he was just starting at Ajax and when Schmeichel was his age, he was with the World Widelife Fund and playing amateurly, people underestimate how hard it is to be a goalkeeper.



If any tabloids/haters are dropping in, do the kid a favour a back off. It's hard enough living in a foreign country at his age, let alone keeping goal for the biggest club in the world.
 
Lynk said:
I've said it before but when Hart was De Gea's age he was on loan at Brentford, When Van Der Sar was De Gea's age he was just starting at Ajax and when Schmeichel was his age, he was with the World Widelife Fund and playing amateurly, people underestimate how hard it is to be a goalkeeper.
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good perspectives there.

stuff about DDG not succeeding here is hilarious.
 
it is down to his mental strengths now. if he is strong inside then he will make it here.

hope that the battering he got in the second half will make him even more determine to spend more time working out in the gym. a few extra pounds of muscles should help his confidence coming off his line to collect those long balls.
 
It's a very difficult position to play because every perceived error is highlighted and, often, costly. Similarly, I've often criticised PL referees but I once reffed an amateur game and it was so hard to make the correct decisions with regularity that I never did it again.
 
SteveJ said:
It's a very difficult position to play because every perceived error is highlighted and, often, costly. Similarly, I've often criticised PL referees but I once reffed an amateur game and it was so hard to make the correct decisions with regularity that I never did it again.
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Yeah. Nani missed two sitters today (one more so than the other) and yet look at this thread. That's the deal with being a keeper.
 
From the Guardian's comments section below Daniel Taylor's feature 'Nervous start has put David De Gea's Manchester United place in doubt':

'Well, I guess the world has to pick on something to beat United with. All other attempts have been shunted down their mouths, so the only thing left is to claim the new foreign keeper has not settled seamlessly into the team from the first whistle. Do hold on to that wishful thought until it is proven false again.

Speaking of 'sticks to beat United with', here is a list that has been rammed down the envious critics' throats down the years:

You can't win anything with kids

Ronaldo is a one-trick pony

Come back when you've won 18

The empire will crumble now that Cantona/Schmeichel/Van Nistelrooy/Beckham/Keane/Ronaldo has left

United can't score (2007-08)

United can't win away (2010-11)

The refs are all biased towards United

United killed the FA Cup

Ferguson can't win the Champions League

Vidic and Evra are obviously crap based on their debuts

Cole needs 7 chances to score

Park was signed to sell shirts

Old Trafford is too quiet

Only 75,000 turned out for the Carling Cup match the other day

Please feel free to add your own personal favourite.'
 
they really are a bunch of cnuts - note the clamour to get Song hauled in front of the FA - good job it wasn't Rooney or Nani.
 
"An older keeper is so familiar with the structure of attacks that he has time to organise his defence. Younger keepers can't. All they have is their talent. And when they make mistakes, they start doubting themselves." - Edwin van der sar
 
Chicharito can't play outside the box.

Giggs is past it.

Nani is not Cristiano Ronaldo.

Giggs is past it.
 
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some nice ones there Steve :)

yeah...so what happened with Song then?

I remember Starfish Gerrad almost taking the head off Welbeck with his elbow.

no action there.

The media are rags and only vehicles to feed the bitter 'win feck all' ABUs.
 
He looks a bit shaky but I thought he recovered well from his error, it's clear from how West Brom shot from distance a lot and jumped into him on set pieces that they were testing him out and he held his nerve. Lets see how he is doing come Christmas.
 
Scharner drew a decent save from De Gea, whose confidence seemed lifted until Long came calling a minute later. De Gea screamed to the heavens in frustration. Suddenly, like a hot-air balloon deflating, all the buoyancy ebbed from the champions. It was as if the Spaniard’s unease was contagious, inhibiting his colleagues. --Henry Winter
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Perhaps some elements of the press pack are going overboard about De Gea but I think Winter makes a valid point. To attack as we were doing in the first half takes a lot of bravado and you have to know what's behind you is solid especially when your full backs are streaming forward like red arrows.

De Gea's mistake put the doubt in our players' minds and when he conceded the goal the flowing football ended. I'm not excusing other players Nani should've scored a brace, for example, and Vida and Ferdy injured or not were both pretty pants. However, a goalkeeper unfortunately cannot afford to make mistakes like outfield players. An outfield player can afford to lose the ball quite a lot but a goalie dropping the ball once is unacceptable. There are different standards for goalies and outfield players that's just the brutal reality.

A team's strength comes from its spine. De Gea must get over his nervousness fast. He knew the size of the club he was coming to. 20 years old or not. He needs to stick his chest out a bit more and stamp his authority games. At the moment its all looking a little Ben Foster: talent there, mentality...question marks.
 
was pretty impressed with West Brom's movement, apart from the obvious game-raising element. IIRC, Woy took over when they were in a relegation place so they must've had a pretty decent turnaround since he took over, looking at their final placing. Would be interested to see exactly where they were before Woy. In that light, it was a jolly decent 3pts.
 
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was pretty impressed with West Brom's movement, apart from the obvious game-raising element. IIRC, Woy took over when they were in a relegation place so they must've had a pretty decent turnaround since he took over, looking at their final placing. Would be interested to see exactly where they were before Woy. In that light, it was a jolly decent 3pts.
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just wait for the other top sides visiting there. They will be lucky to come away with anything.
 
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Perhaps some elements of the press pack are going overboard about De Gea but I think Winter makes a valid point. To attack as we were doing in the first half takes a lot of bravado and you have to know what's behind you is solid especially when your full backs are streaming forward like red arrows.

De Gea's mistake put the doubt in our players' minds and when he conceded the goal the flowing football ended. I'm not excusing other players Nani should've scored a brace, for example, and Vida and Ferdy injured or not were both pretty pants. However, a goalkeeper unfortunately cannot afford to make mistakes like outfield players. An outfield player can afford to lose the ball quite a lot but a goalie dropping the ball once is unacceptable. There are different standards for goalies and outfield players that's just the brutal reality.

A team's strength comes from its spine. De Gea must get over his nervousness fast. He knew the size of the club he was coming to. 20 years old or not. He needs to stick his chest out a bit more and stamp his authority games. At the moment its all looking a little Ben Foster: talent there, mentality...question marks.
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Nonsense.

Couldn't it also be that, as soon as they scored, completely out of the blue, the Baggies were lifted?
 
Even assuming VDS had played and saved that "howler":rolleyes: that de Gea conceded, how would the game have spun out anyway? Would we have just sat on our lead until they equalised anyway like we did so many times last season? We developed an awful habit of appeared to be trying to conserve energy and in doing so let go of the initiative. The one good thing about scoring late on is that it gives the oppo little chance of coming back into it whereas we would invite them onto us so many times last season, esp away.
 
This is the same treatment Ben Foster got, all eyes were on him when VDS was injured and he was put into the community sheild game and he made one mistake and the press jumped on him. He never caught a break even when he made some very good saves for us.

I think any keeper, no matter what age and experience would of got this treatment. After our previous troubles of replacing the great dane, and how realible VDS was, any goalkeeper would be under the pressure and scrutiny. Just hopefully De Gea comes through it.
 
I really don't care about his mistake anymore. We won the game. He should forget about it and move on. The more games we win, the more confident he will get. The only bad thing is he won't have either Vidic or Rio for the Spurs game and like Dixon said he should know it is his turn to step up and not count on his defense because it is going to be youngsters playing in front of him. I just wish the press would lay of him a little bit and let him settle in for feck sake.
 
Think match going reds should get a chant going for the lad, nothing will make you less nervous and more confident than having the Stretty show you that there supporting you.
 
De Gea's been quite lucky both games he made mistakes in turned out good in the end. It's a totally different story having to dropp points for something silly like that. Now this could just be something as a tension builder in the starting chapter of the 11/12 champions dvd.
 
Yes, he was at fault for the WBA's goal, but i don't think the defending against Long was that fantastic. Yes, he flapped at the crosses and long balls, but where was the fcuking centrebacks? The job of the defenders are to protect the goalkeeper and not the other way around. Ferdinand and Vidic weren't that impressive. DDG's nerves are natural for somebody with less than 60 games in the top flight, who is coming over to a foreign league, with a foreign language with less than a summer's preparation due to the national team's commitments, but i can't say the same for the experienced defenders who didn't gave enough protection or do justice to him in the last 2 games.

GK is arguably the toughest position to play in, and experience is extremely crucial. Like what VDS said, its important to be able to recognised the structure of the opponent's football, anticipate and react, and all these comes with experience. We, as fans will accept the good and the bad of this purchase, whom i'm very confident will come good sooner rather than later, and i bet he will save us a lot of points rather than dropping them. Mark my words.

ps: almostly brilliant long ball distribution btw.
 
Tough for keepers at times, couple of mistakes can cost your your career with a club especially if its an older keeper.

However De Gea still has my full support. Yeah the last couple of games he should have saved shots that went in, but they looked more like he wasn't expecting either of them and reacted too late...stuff like that gets ironed out of your game and i don't believe its a glaring fault at all.A couple good strong games for him will make him I reckon.

On the plus side his distribution and comfort with the ball at his feet are excellent. The lad really does look quite a talent so I hope he is given plenty of time to get settled.
 
United fans love their history by bringing young players up, and want to continue like that. This is what we also do with DDG, so we have to show that we are supportive. I hope he gets a great reception at OT.

Seems like his problem is not his skills, but more his focus. Against City and WBA, he wasnt focused and didnt expect that shot. Once that is sorted, he saves these shots with closed eyes
 
Can`t believe Fergie has thrown him in so quickly. Any young player in any other position at OT is always brought on slowly, nurtured until ready. De Gea obviously has potential but doesn`t look anywhere near the finished article to me, physically or mentally. He`s a twenty year old Spanish kid a long way from home & Sir Alex needs to throw a protective arm around him quick!

We should test Villa`s resolve & sign Shay Given before the end of August (throw in PIG as a makeweight) I reckon Randy Lerner would bite Fergie`s hand off for a quick couple of mill profit.
 
P.Head said:
Can`t believe Fergie has thrown him in so quickly. Any young player in any other position at OT is always brought on slowly, nurtured until ready. De Gea obviously has potential but doesn`t look anywhere near the finished article to me, physically or mentally. He`s a twenty year old Spanish kid a long way from home & Sir Alex needs to throw a protective arm around him quick!

We should test Villa`s resolve & sign Shay Given before the end of August (throw in PIG as a makeweight) I reckon Randy Lerner would bite Fergie`s hand off for a quick couple of mill profit.
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Given is shit. I'd rather stick PIG in the net then him.

De Gea is a keeper, who's at the biggest club in the world as a 20 year old. He's going to look like a deer in headlights for a while, but once he gets his head sorted, he'll be a solid keeper and will only get better. Thankfully unlike Foster, Given and PIG, his distribution is top class so even with the clangers, he's still a valuable asset to have at the back.

feck you'd never think it was his 2nd competitive match for United or anything...





But yes we shoul piss money down the drain for no reason, sounds like a great move....
 
P.Head said:
Can`t believe Fergie has thrown him in so quickly. Any young player in any other position at OT is always brought on slowly, nurtured until ready. De Gea obviously has potential but doesn`t look anywhere near the finished article to me, physically or mentally. He`s a twenty year old Spanish kid a long way from home & Sir Alex needs to throw a protective arm around him quick!

We should test Villa`s resolve & sign Shay Given before the end of August (throw in PIG as a makeweight) I reckon Randy Lerner would bite Fergie`s hand off for a quick couple of mill profit.
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Hmm, I can't think of any Spanish keepers thrown into the limelight at that age and turned out to be brilliant, can you?

Oh and that last part :lol:
 
Seriously, some of our fans just suggested we buy Shay Given.

Incredible, it really is. If I see that shite feckwit attempting to organise our defence, I think I'd cry. Da Gea has the potential to be immense, and after one proper game, I'm not changing my opinion.
 
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