Give him time lads. He's got one hell of an act to follow in Van der Sar.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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I don't think anyone is giving up on him just yet! I thought his distribution was VDSesque today which is very important for a counter-attacking team like utd.
Lets not forget, its his first real united game that counts in the wembley. Oncr he settles, he will save the 2nd with his little finger and punch the 1st far out
Someone made a very good point on Twitter, in that Van Der Sar made a similar mistake for Messi's goal in the UCL final. Both should've done better.
This. It was practically an identical goal yet I didn't hear the dreaded Taibi comparison I saw that twat Taylor mention with Edwin, nor did I detect the same amount of flak as De Gea has got for Dzeko's goal. This isn't some two bob no mark that we've got, he's a keeper who's performed and excelled in La Liga for two years and who many shrewd judges like Reina and Casillas see as the future of the current World Cup holders.
You expect the press to go after his blood over the slightest thing this year, that's what they do but I just hope our supporters don't buy into any negative hype that they peddle.
Couldn't do anything about the first. Might have done better with the second but it was in a really horrible area, too far away to use his feet and too close to get down quickly to. He'll be disappointed all the same.
Didn't let his head drop, though. The save from Richards' header was class and his distribution was great. Encouraging to see him cope so well, mentally, with the set-back.
Didn't let his head drop, though. The save from Richards' header was class and his distribution was great. Encouraging to see him cope so well, mentally, with the set-back.
The most encouraging thing was he didn't seem to be to bothered with his mistake and just got on with the game. Had a couple of very good moments in the second half and looked assured, his distribution was quite good as well IMHO. Mistakes are bound to happen from time to time, the lad is only 20!
Some people (pundits) will criticise him at every chance and will want him to fail. He's only 20 years old and the PL is different to Spain so he'll need time to adjust. All keepers make mistakes but it's how they react to those mistakes that separates the great keepers. He was somewhat at fault for the second goal but still he came out and played well in the second half and gave a good account of himself. He's got the talent and I'm sure SAF and the coaches will be patient with him.
I actucally found the response from a lot of United fans on twitter to be absolutely fecking discusting.
Big Pete Schmikes made plenty of errors in his first season at United. De Gea will be fine.
I think that apart from two stupid mistakes (which lead to goals) he did very well
He is going to make mistakes and will get criticism. Thats expected. Its how he reacts.
He reacted well in the second half and didnt let his head drop. His distribution is top class, and he needs to work on his communication. That will come with the english lessons hes getting.
He reacted well in the second half and didnt let his head drop. His distribution is top class, and he needs to work on his communication. That will come with the english lessons hes getting.
He wasn't at fault at all for the first though?
Somebody who is presumably baffled by the sentiment of not wanting to win a football match in normal time.
There will be plenty of time to see more of De Gea's shot stopping ability the important thing is that firstly he now knows that he can come through a mistake for us with his confidence intact, and secondly that he plays for a team that never lays down in the face of defeat.
Those are far more important than wanting to see a penalty shot out just to see the clubs new goal keeper get tested.
I don't think he was either...he couldn't have saved it, however he still went to ground to early.
Same, but not surprised at all.
Its his first game. He might have been at fault for both goals but who cares now. He will learn from his mistakes. He is very calm.
Stupid mistakes? Ffs.
I really can't see how anybody can pin the first goal on him, the fault for that goal goes squarely on the back of us as a unit for defending the free-kick far too deep, practically standing on his toes, and Evra for giving away a silly FK during his dummy spit about not getting a fecking throw-in.
His distribution is class. Like I said I have no doubts he'll be a fantastic keeper for us despite the mistake.
If it takes a season or two, we have Lindegaard who I think is a good solid keeper as well.
If it takes a season or two, we have Lindegaard who I think is a good solid keeper as well.
i watched the game charity/community shield whatever they call it nowadays on a Romanian stream - live. from behind both goals the shot from Dzecko (excuse ignorant spelling) had lateral movement - it went one way then the other and back again then dipped viciously in front of him.
Big guys can get down well sometimes but not always up again and a ball that dips and bounces in front of these guys is normally a goal. yes he perhaps got his hand to it - i will have to watch again but not only did it dip it zipped off the surface with minimal bounce. i say it was a freak goal - but a good effort nevertheless.
sometimes the mechanics of what happens with ball trajectory needs to be explained if you have played you will know. shit happens but that should not detract from his performance. after it was not a mistake where the ball caught in his leggings and he was megged.
Big guys can get down well sometimes but not always up again and a ball that dips and bounces in front of these guys is normally a goal. yes he perhaps got his hand to it - i will have to watch again but not only did it dip it zipped off the surface with minimal bounce. i say it was a freak goal - but a good effort nevertheless.
sometimes the mechanics of what happens with ball trajectory needs to be explained if you have played you will know. shit happens but that should not detract from his performance. after it was not a mistake where the ball caught in his leggings and he was megged.
I don't mean to bring up the height issue again, but...
Jones is supposed to be 5''11 and De Gea 6''3
Jones is supposed to be 5''11 and De Gea 6''3
Somebody post that Dugal and father ted clip, I can't be bothered.
Well done, Lynk.Spot on Sylar. He clearly has the ability, but at 20 years old is going to make mistakes.
He's a class act although he didn't have his best game today. He might take a few months to get properly adjusted to the league but I'm still fully confident that he'll do it.
Second half was promising, that's the one thing I like about him, he has the VDS like ability to put the mistakes behind him.
Second half was promising, that's the one thing I like about him, he has the VDS like ability to put the mistakes behind him.
There's no doubt he was at *fault* in both goals, but I have faith it will make him stronger. It just might make his concentration levels go up a notch, as proved in the second half today with two excellent saves.
I don't mean to bring up the height issue again, but...
Jones is supposed to be 5''11 and De Gea 6''3
I thought he looked shorter than 6'3" at th end when he shook Harts hand, h looked a good 6 inches shorter than Hart.
He wasn't at fault for the first one, Smallings goal arrived in the same area yet no one is blaming England's brave number 1.
Apparently Neuer made a huge mistake today in Munich's defeat. Not a good day for great keepers eh?
I'm 6ft 4" and there's not a chance in hell that David de Gea is the same height as me. He looks tiny. But he'll prove to be a good signing - he did make a mistake for the 2nd goal, didn't see what he did wrong for the first. But saying that, it was a rocket that Dzeko hit so fair play to him.
He has got a bit about him too - I liked the fact that he was shouting at Evans and Jones to get out of his area and push the line up. PIG (for example) didn't have that in him.
He'll come good. I just hope he doesn't make too many mistakes because our media will gobble him up.
He has got a bit about him too - I liked the fact that he was shouting at Evans and Jones to get out of his area and push the line up. PIG (for example) didn't have that in him.
He'll come good. I just hope he doesn't make too many mistakes because our media will gobble him up.
We all knew mistakes would happen. I also think I see why he lets so many in from distance. He don't half stand off his line a bit. I'm not entirely comfortable with that. I think he could work on his positioning a touch. He was off his line a number of times but for the second goal, I think he saves that if he'd have been six yards out and focused on saving the ball. When he runs back, it gives him less time to set himself and while it dipped under his glove I think his original positioning was slightly flawed.
Get him into the weights room with Welbeck to spot. He knows what it is to "bulk up."
I do like the fact the fans here show support for our young keeper. I think that he was to blame for the first. It was a very Kuszczak-esque attempt to defend a cross in (ie make a move towards the ball then start back pedaling - go to the ground in a desperate attempt to save the shot.) It was a very good ball in and ti think that no matter what DDG had done it would have ended in a goal (too many bodies before him to punch it away, too close to stay on the line and try to defend the shot).
Re the second goal - i think that Pogue is spot on with his remarks. 20 inches either way and DDG would have saved that shot.
Re the second goal - i think that Pogue is spot on with his remarks. 20 inches either way and DDG would have saved that shot.
Sometimes the goal's a goal because the attacker deserves it. The first one was a good pass, good run, good header scored against defenders who will usually deal with such things but failed to. Most times Rio or Vidic would have got to it, sometimes they'd have "done enough" to put Lescott off and De Gea would have been congratulated for staying on his line to keep the ball out. If it was an error it was an error of the whole unit - central defenders and De Gea.
The second one was like the goal from the CL final - the sort where you say the keeper could have done better, despite the awkward swerve and bounce. Well yeah, and 9 out of 10 times he will save those.
The fact is they all make mistakes - remember Neuer looking great in our away at Schalke and then very ordinary at OT? The good ones don't let it ruin their season. The second half was important for De Gea and he handled it just fine.
The second one was like the goal from the CL final - the sort where you say the keeper could have done better, despite the awkward swerve and bounce. Well yeah, and 9 out of 10 times he will save those.
The fact is they all make mistakes - remember Neuer looking great in our away at Schalke and then very ordinary at OT? The good ones don't let it ruin their season. The second half was important for De Gea and he handled it just fine.
Again?
Well that's satisfying, especially as the dumb commentator on Sky Germany said smth like "United should really have gone after Neuer" after his mistake.
Not Neuer's first mistake for Bayern too.
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