Imagine that.. Arsenal announces Wenger is leaving... Only to announce they've hired ex Manchester United manager... David Moyes
Would be the biggest troll in history (after SAF's retirement).
Do it Stan, do it!
David Moyes | West Ham in talks with him for managerial job
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Imagine that.. Arsenal announces Wenger is leaving... Only to announce they've hired ex Manchester United manager... David Moyes
Would be the biggest troll in history (after SAF's retirement).
Do it Stan, do it!
Imagine Welbeck's reaction
5 times. I'd be pretty sure any manager doing a "shit" job would not win it.
Not sure what your point is.5 times
Swing and a miss. I see those tears still haven't dried up, princess. Are you alright?
I think the same.
Feeling all fuzzy and warm now that you called me princess again x
5 out of how many?
Wow his career has gone from bad to worse.
I knew he was out of his depth at United, but he's made some awful decisions to try and get his career back on track hasn't he. After the United job he could have surely picked something better than Real Sociadad and Sunderland.... But now? He's no chance of getting anything at the top level.
I knew he was out of his depth at United, but he's made some awful decisions to try and get his career back on track hasn't he. After the United job he could have surely picked something better than Real Sociadad and Sunderland.... But now? He's no chance of getting anything at the top level.
Nobody would believe that nor has anyone in this thread said it. The original comment was that Moyes was "shite" at Everton, being voted manager of the year 3 times by your fellow peers is just one of many pieces of evidence to the contrary. The PLMA award is the one given out by the Football Association, in which Fergie has 11 awards. Moyes is done as a manager but people trying to rewrite history claiming he was "shite" at Everton is wrong.And you think Alex only deserved 2 more than Moyes in all those years
I think he rejected Celtic to go to Sunderland, pretty stupid
Where is Mourinho? His first Chelsea teams crushed the league and set records that still stand. Instead in 2005 Moyes gets it! And in 2009, United had 90 points, so I can't understand that one either.
Real Sociedad wasn't a bad job for him, they had just achieved 4th place one season after (I even believe Real Sociedad and Manchester United under Moyes were in the same group), and currently are 6th in the league. So something better than Real Sociedad would be the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atlético de Madrid and Sevilla and it's not like he was asked to lift a title with them, a top 6th finish would be considered a good campaign by their standards and it's not like he was kicked out for bad results alone but because of the type of dross football they were playing and zero tangible progress in any area. Until the very end he gave the impression of having no clue at all about what he was doing, there was no direction whatsoever.
Haha and now Rodgers is being hailed as the second coming of Jesus, Moyes must be gutted!
He got the manager of the year award off the Association that year
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Good to hear. Now you can quit sooking and go back to fighting the good fight like a true SJW.
For sure, I feel pretty bad for him on a humane level. Taking this kind of one-two-three bunch combination to his reputation is absolutely brutal for anybody in any walk of life.
I genuinely think he needs to get away from the narrative. Get away from the spotlight of managing with ambition and go somewhere he can be out of the limelight and focus on getting that group of players back under his level of 'reputation' because it is absolutely in tatters at the moment. Part of his time at Everton was fringed with the fact that he could use the underdog mentality to grow that club, obviously not into a monster or anything but wherever he goes now the narrative of the last three years of failure will follow him. Pretty brutal really.
The state of that list of winners, it's almost like non British managers aren't allowed to win it.
Truly sad day for football. A Champions League manager forced to resign and quit Sunderland because of footballers who were not good enough to follow his instructions and were too lazy to buy into his genius.
It started with Del Bosque being fired by Real for only winning the league, then Ancelotti and Ranieri fired the season after winning the league and now Sunderland have forced Moyes to resign mere 2 and a half months after holding City to two goals.
It started with Del Bosque being fired by Real for only winning the league, then Ancelotti and Ranieri fired the season after winning the league and now Sunderland have forced Moyes to resign mere 2 and a half months after holding City to two goals.
Where ever he goes he'll be carrying the expectation of being the chosen one. Such a shame he couldn't reach his full potential. Just imagine United today had he been given more time.
Hard to see where next for him. He's had the big gig here, he's done La Liga and he's blown his chance to rebuild his reputation at Sunderland.
SPL or championship looks his only route back into club management but his career is going to take some rebuilding. He's damaged gooods.
SPL or championship looks his only route back into club management but his career is going to take some rebuilding. He's damaged gooods.
Moyes is only 4 years into his 6 year United contract and he's effectively been sacked three times...
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the sheer arrogance of the man and complete lack of any sense of humility.
I can't see where he will go from here. No EPL side would touch him, I'd be surprised if a Championship club would take him on either, he's got a destructive negativity about him. Clubs that have ambition to get promoted won't want to hear his "reality checks" and harsh analysis of the state of the squad while he's just proven that he doesn't have the ability to get a squad working for him to battle relegation.
Really difficult to see anyone taking a chance on him and I can't imagine he comes cheap either.
I don't think moyes is that bad a manager. I think his confidence is shot to pieces after his failures at United and sociadad.
I think this is a lesson for a lot of managers taking on a big club like ours. The difference is huge because the expectations are as well. You can't undermine the difficulties of going from having to fight for a midtable position to Challenge for every single trophy. It is a huge task to go from just using the same 13-15 players and having to rotate with 22-23 players and still being in the fight for every trophy. Even experienced managers like Mourinho is having problems with it. When you have a big budget the expectations are higher as well which means there are fewer excuses. I think pochetinno is being very clever. I'm sure he has gotten offers from many big clubs but he realizes that he has a lot to learn still. At Tottenham it is accepted if they aren't in for every trophy available. Even if they miss top Four it won't be a terrible season for them because they will always have the excuse of not having the same budget as other clubs.
I think this is a lesson for a lot of managers taking on a big club like ours. The difference is huge because the expectations are as well. You can't undermine the difficulties of going from having to fight for a midtable position to Challenge for every single trophy. It is a huge task to go from just using the same 13-15 players and having to rotate with 22-23 players and still being in the fight for every trophy. Even experienced managers like Mourinho is having problems with it. When you have a big budget the expectations are higher as well which means there are fewer excuses. I think pochetinno is being very clever. I'm sure he has gotten offers from many big clubs but he realizes that he has a lot to learn still. At Tottenham it is accepted if they aren't in for every trophy available. Even if they miss top Four it won't be a terrible season for them because they will always have the excuse of not having the same budget as other clubs.
How about NO!
Either A) football has genuinely sprinted past him and he was unable to move from his old fashioned ways. His Everton mostly played dull industrious percentage football even though he didn't a very good job. Or B) the United job absolutely smashed his self belief to pieces and he's simply a shadow of the manager he used to be.
The decision by us to hire Moyes was the stupidest decision of that magnitude I've seen in sport. He was an obvious failure from a mile out.
The decision by us to hire Moyes was the stupidest decision of that magnitude I've seen in sport. He was an obvious failure from a mile out.
C'mon. It'd be great. Imagine all the last minute galactico signings from mid table clubs and people he once worked with.
I hate it when he loses jobs.
Because that gives him more time to talk about how he was "unfairly treated" by United.
Because that gives him more time to talk about how he was "unfairly treated" by United.
It's probably best to not know
. It would most likely be worse than anyone could ever imagine. We are a massive 5 points better than we were during the Moyes year.
That reminds me of something.... https://www.redcafe.net/threads/confirmed-moyes-sacked.389098/
Moyes also likes to bang on about taking the high ground too even though it's feckin' nonsense, so it's an apt parallel
If anyone thinks that this season and the Moyes one are comparable, then bless them.
If Mark Hughes was able to get a PL job after his tenure at QPR nothing wrong with Moyes getting another PL job.
I am just saying we are not in a much better position now.
European cup final and a league cup win = much better position.