David Moyes | West Ham in talks with him for managerial job

Sunderland forum RTG is heaps of fun tonight:

Not as mad but equally as clueless. How can we be optimistic with this miserable fecker in charge? If he was my boss I'd slit my wrists.

I'd take crazy loon over miserable twat any day. Plus PDC did actually win a couple of games as manager

One defeat in the last 11 games with Sam in charge after he brought in his players.

Moyes has destroyed everything good Sam did.

Starting to wonder if moyes is our worst ever pl manager ... and if this is only the start

Hes signing are poor ...his methods have lead to a large injury crisis... tactically it's not great.

Worst ever pl start equalled no sign of our first win

That is from their "is he worse than Paulo Di Canio" thread.

Here is their thread on his post match interview, getting absolutely ripped to pieces in there:

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/moyes-interview.1288736/
 
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'I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air,
They fly so high, nearly reach the sky,
Then like my dreams they fade and die.
Fortune's always hiding,
I've looked everywhere,
I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air.'
 
'We needed a point, so we lost one point' :lol:
Unbelievable. I feel bad now that after bizarre pre/post match interviews I used to try and see sense in what he was saying and guess that, "maybe he didn't mean it how it came out, he meant a bit different because nobody can be that clueless."
 
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Nah, he is an honest and hard-working man who deserved more time at United.
That's just GOT TO BE wumming, surely?! :eek:
Great guy I work with is a Sunderland fan and I told him that Moyes would be sh!t and he said Everton showed what he can do and United were poor not giving him more time....

...... He's not saying that now.​
 
It gets more astonishing by the day that this guy was ever in charge here. What on earth were we thinking?
 
Pathetic today. They've got two points and are playing one of the few teams in as much of a mess as they are. So Moyes parks the bus and prays for a point. He deserves everything he gets.
 
It gets more astonishing by the day that this guy was ever in charge here. What on earth were we thinking?
I genuinely think we found ourselves in a massive hole because all the big names had gone elsewhere, or possibly weren't willing to move to United at a time when the chief executive was leaving and they didn't know who they'd be working with.

Either that or it was just rank complacency from Gill and the Glazers; Fergie had made it look easy and they thought it would be the same story under any other manager. The sort of thinking that brought us the 'sell-Ronaldo-buy-Valencia' debacle and is still hurting us to this day.
 
"David Moyes was appointed Manchester United manager after "several very desirable candidates were unavailable", Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed.

The list of names was headed up by Pep Guardiola and also included Jose Mourinho and Jurgen Klopp"

.... and Simeone
...... and Contè
...... and Allardyce
........ and Bruce
.......... and Pulis
........... and Moyes' mum
............ and Uncle Tom Cobley
............. and Moyes' dog
............... and me
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then we went for Moyes.
 
It gets more astonishing by the day that this guy was ever in charge here. What on earth were we thinking?
Continuity aka British only manager tradition... (ran through the founding of this club till record breaking fecking Moyes!)

This fraud happened to be the most reputable British manager at the time (with the help of his friend in the media).

Never listen to the media. It's us against them or nothing at all.
 
Shame on you people.

It's wrong to laugh at someone else misfortune.
And we shouldn't rejoice at what he is doing at Sunderland.
It was not his fault that he was hired for the MUFC job.

But after every Sunderland match (and the almost inevitable loss), I just can't help myself from smiling.
 
"David Moyes was appointed Manchester United manager after "several very desirable candidates were unavailable", Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed.

If this is true, then why did we give Moyes one of the longest management contracts in footballing history?
Even Wenger doesn't get 6 year contracts. Even Pep didn't get this. Jose got 3 seasons. Same with LVG.
6 years says that the club had full faith in Moyes and this was no Plan G. I think Moyes was Plan A - all facts/logic points to this.

2 points in 9 games.

2 points.

In 9 games.

So extrapolating, in 38 games, he is on course to score 8.44 points.
Now, to put this into context, A.Villa, who IMO were one of the worst teams I have ever seen in the EPL, scored 17 points last season.

The standards at Sunderland are very low - they understand that they are not going to score too many points, but 8 points? At some point Sunderland will sack him.
 
So extrapolating, in 38 games, he is on course to score 8.44 points.
Now, to put this into context, A.Villa, who IMO were one of the worst teams I have ever seen in the EPL, scored 17 points last season.

The standards at Sunderland are very low - they understand that they are not going to score too many points, but 8 points? At some point Sunderland will sack him.
Derby County 07/08 finished the season with 11 points and that was undoubtedly the worst premier league performance I ever saw from a football team, which is reflected in the records as it was the lowest scoring season byany team in a premier league.

Not that they'll actually finish the season 3 points behind THAT, but moyes' record so far in the league this season is nothing short of appaling, even/especially for a manager of average caliber. and people don't understand why most of us dislike moyes when he huffs and puffs in the media about how unfair his treatment was at united, referring to himself in third person after winning against barca, etc... jesus wept.
 
If this is true, then why did we give Moyes one of the longest management contracts in footballing history?
Even Wenger doesn't get 6 year contracts. Even Pep didn't get this. Jose got 3 seasons. Same with LVG.
6 years says that the club had full faith in Moyes and this was no Plan G. I think Moyes was Plan A - all facts/logic points to this.



So extrapolating, in 38 games, he is on course to score 8.44 points.
Now, to put this into context, A.Villa, who IMO were one of the worst teams I have ever seen in the EPL, scored 17 points last season.

The standards at Sunderland are very low - they understand that they are not going to score too many points, but 8 points? At some point Sunderland will sack him.
What do you mean "if this is true".... it's in Fergies book, how he'd asked Pep to keep him informed of his next role, how Ancelotti wasn't free, Klopp, Jose, LVG, etc.

"I asked Pep to phone me before he accepted an offer from another club"....

"Believe me, the United board wanted nothing more than to select a manager who would be with the club for a long time."

Just think board wanted someone who SAF recommended and wanted to show world (sponsors??) that we'd have another settled period. SAF (like a lot of people) thought Moyes work at Everton showed he was the man ..... he/they were wrong, big style.
 
If this is true, then why did we give Moyes one of the longest management contracts in footballing history?

Because despite Fergies backtracking since Moyes sacking it's quite possible he was Fergusons 1st choice from the beginning. Ferguson and the club set out criteria for selecting a manager and Moyes fitted that criteria perfectly. Problem is that criteria didn't include being a top coach, having CL experience, history of managing big clubs/players or most importantly a record of winning trophies.
 
What do you mean "if this is true".... it's in Fergies book, how he'd asked Pep to keep him informed of his next role, how Ancelotti wasn't free, Klopp, Jose, LVG, etc.

Fergie's book came out after the Moyes appointment had been shown to be one of the most hopelessly inept decisions made by a major club in recent times. As the man seen to have annointed Moyes, he obviously had some interest in trying to distance himself from that decision.

I am not sure we will ever know the full truth. It was probably a result of complacency and muddled thinking after 20 years of success, with the result that the club had no clear succession strategy and grossly underestimated the demands of the manager's role at United.
 
Those players are letting him down. If he could get more Moyes players, they would turn it around. And so on. :lol:
 
Fergie's book came out after the Moyes appointment had been shown to be one of the most hopelessly inept decisions made by a major club in recent times. As the man seen to have annointed Moyes, he obviously had some interest in trying to distance himself from that decision.

I am not sure we will ever know the full truth. It was probably a result of complacency and muddled thinking after 20 years of success, with the result that the club had no clear succession strategy and grossly underestimated the demands of the manager's role at United.
I repeat again what I believe is the meaning of "continuity" : the tradition of British ONLY manager. That was what set United apart from any other top flight teams in England (perhaps even among big clubs: national pride) until Moyes disaster leading to LVG appointed as the first ever foreign manager in our history. That would be something special to continue had British managers not been the mess they are at the moment.

So the men in charge really put a lot of thought and effort for the cause. Not thoughtless like people now think seeing how clueless Moyes has been. The approaches of other top foreign coaches sounded so half hearted at best. Then coincidentally, Moyes ran out his Everton contract as well as being briefed by SAF himself not to renew.
 
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If the club gave him the time he deserved, United would be challenging the champions league by now and would have won the league last season. hahahahahah
 
If the club gave him the time he deserved, United would be challenging the champions league by now and would have won the league last season. hahahahahah

I've just spat coffee all over my monitor.....haha feck me!!!!!!!
 
Continuity aka British only manager tradition... (ran through the founding of this club till record breaking fecking Moyes!)

This fraud happened to be the most reputable British manager at the time (with the help of his friend in the media).

Never listen to the media. It's us against them or nothing at all.

O'Farrell wasn't British.
 
Moyes is probably the worst manager in the history of football.
I don't think thats entirely true but imo the league has moved on since his Everton days and hes a casualty of it.

I'm actually hoping this paves the way for PL clubs giving younger British managers a go instead of the same tried and tested names...
 
I hope Moyes is around long enough to return to Old Trafford and face the manager he beat to the United job first. And it'll give Jose the chance to underline why it was the wrong decision. In fact i could see Jose going all out attack to prove that point.

Special one vs the Chosen one.

I think he'll be sacked by then though unfortunately
 
Honest, hard working man
Not enough so to be United manager.

Refused to work with United until July, leaving himself totally unprepared in the transfer window and ahead of the season.

Looks like he didn't learn either. Seems to have spent all his time unemployed picking his bum. Has joined Sunderland just as unprepared it's showing
 
I hope Moyes is around long enough to return to Old Trafford and face the manager he beat to the United job first. And it'll give Jose the chance to underline why it was the wrong decision. In fact i could see Jose going all out attack to prove that point. Special one vs the Chosen one.

I think he'll be sacked by then though unfortunately

He'll have to survive for another 8 league games for that to happen:

H Arsenal
A Bournemouth
H Hull
A Liverpool
H Leicester
A Swansea
H Chelsea
H Watford
 
They'll try to win the next game and O'Shea has nearly finished watching all the how to play like Jagielka videos.
 
It's gone beyond funny now. Then i try and feel a modicum of compassion and start laughing again. It's spiralling out of control, every single weekend much like their form.

He'll be gone well before christmas.