Day 24: Sweden vs England and Russia vs Croatia

What is 'coming home'?


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Jordan Pickford actually looks like a winning goalie. The same way Courtois looked yesterday. Good and important saves from both of them.


I will be rooting for Croatia in an hour.
No one has mentioned that the first - as good a save as it was -- was at nice height and it stayed up there. I thought Lloris' yesterday was a better save
 
From 2016. Trying to verify if real, can't seem to view anything back that far on his feed.


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Those are the facts yes but it doesn't say anything about how a game between Germany/Mexico and England would have ended because football or any other sport doesn't work like that. The argument is especially flawed since Germany beat Sweden, so your own logic goes against itself.

No, it doesn’t say anything about how a match between Germany and England would have ended. That was my point. It rather provides a reasonable rebuttal to the suggestion that a hypothetical Germany win wasn’t a foregone conclusion, should have we pretended that they got through the group stage and saved this World Cup final from being partly contested by one of the Championship level quality sides waiting to be fed to Belgium or France like lambs to the slaughter.
 
Christ. England fans have had nothing to be happy about for the last decade or so, been absolutely trash and have been realistic in knowing we are shite. The one time we get a bit of luck in a tournament and ride on it and everyone else gets their knickers in a twist. Germany won the last world cup ffs, we've waited 30 years for a bloody semi final.
 
I think you'll win. Modric to score twice.

I can't decide if I want to play you in the semi final, or Russia.

You're better than Russia, but with home advantage, Russia will be a real challenge too.
You ( england) are the reason why i am pessimist. Today game scared me. I realized that you don't need midfield, attack, super flowing football. You need organised defence and well trained corners. Russia have that, you have that, we don't. We have back 4 who are awful in air.
 
Englands first good performance of the World Cup - bossed the match, and looked utterly comfortable. I know it's only Sweden, but still...it'll "only" be Croatia or Russia next, and then it's a final..

Thought from the warm up games they'd have a good shot - the self defeating "why always us" attitude that plagues half of England didn't seem present in this new generation of players - they're just going out there and playing like the good bunch of players they are. You shouldn't be surprised. It's just attitude. The reason Germany always won because they knew they would. The reason England didn't was because they knew they wouldn't.

I think Belgium are the only real threat - if France beat them then England win the World Cup.
 
I actually agree with some of what you’re saying here but collectively Germany & Spain only won 2 from 7 matches. That’s form. They didn’t just slip up the once. And whilst they obviously had the lion share of possession, they didn’t look particularly great at all and I don’t think the round of 16/quarter-finals onwards has been weaker for not having them both in it. Not on their current form.
Oh I agree, it's more in terms of the approach to the game. You know they have the potential to click even if they're off, so you cant be complacent against them or be anything other then fully on form. Against Sweden, England had bits of sloppiness and bad finishes but they were still beyond comfortable. That's what I mean. Sweden and Russia fully deserve their place, but the potential of performance for them will still have you dominating against them, while it's not the case against the other 2.
 
I never thought I'd see the day when England were a more progressive, forward thinking team than Man Utd, the confidence in posession and the movement and pressing of this England side is great to watch and whatever happens from this point they've done really well.
 
Englands first good performance of the World Cup - bossed the match, and looked utterly comfortable. I know it's only Sweden, but still...it'll "only" be Croatia or Russia next, and then it's a final..

Thought from the warm up games they'd have a good shot - the self defeating "why always us" attitude that plagues half of England didn't seem present in this new generation of players - they're just going out there and playing like the good bunch of players they are. You shouldn't be surprised. It's just attitude. The reason Germany always won because they knew they would. The reason England didn't was because they knew they wouldn't.

I think Belgium are the only real threat - if France beat them then England win the World Cup.
How do you reckon that? France is superior to England in each position bar CF.
 
It's the opposite: they should TRY!

One could argue that Sweden have a better record in the WC than you lot, especially if we're looking at the last 30 years. But you know, I supposed you tried. Bringing proper football to the people of the world and what not.

This is the sole reason the world loves to see the English fail at sports. You being twats about it right before you crash and that is.
 
Can’t wait for England to actually play someone decent.

Oh they did......and lost. But on purpose obviously.

The media gushing gets old fast. Sooner they’re out the better. :devil:
 
Englands first good performance of the World Cup - bossed the match, and looked utterly comfortable. I know it's only Sweden, but still...it'll "only" be Croatia or Russia next, and then it's a final..

Thought from the warm up games they'd have a good shot - the self defeating "why always us" attitude that plagues half of England didn't seem present in this new generation of players - they're just going out there and playing like the good bunch of players they are. You shouldn't be surprised. It's just attitude. The reason Germany always won because they knew they would. The reason England didn't was because they knew they wouldn't.

I think Belgium are the only real threat - if France beat them then England win the World Cup.

France or Belgium would comfortably beat England in 90 minutes. I really don't think the English defense can handle either team's attack. The winner of France-Belgium is taking the WC IMO (edge to France) I think it will be France-Croatia in the final.
 
This tournament is the least I’ve been on this site in ages. So many negative people around who refuse to enjoy anything. Came into this thread to have a quick look and it’s just hating on England.
 
Englands first good performance of the World Cup - bossed the match, and looked utterly comfortable. I know it's only Sweden, but still...it'll "only" be Croatia or Russia next, and then it's a final..

Thought from the warm up games they'd have a good shot - the self defeating "why always us" attitude that plagues half of England didn't seem present in this new generation of players - they're just going out there and playing like the good bunch of players they are. You shouldn't be surprised. It's just attitude. The reason Germany always won because they knew they would. The reason England didn't was because they knew they wouldn't.

I think Belgium are the only real threat - if France beat them then England win the World Cup.
Don't you think we are getting rid of a lot of hoodoos as well. First penalties, then beating Sweden. I have even got rid of my own, putting an England flag out and losing, since I did it, two games, two wins.
 
We are playing 424/4231.:confused::confused:. Rakitic and modric on dmc. Why change winning formation? Why?
Tbf it wasnt really "winning", given that the game against Denmark was a bad performance for the most part. Also Croatia probably expecting more domination against Russia, put more goal threat on. I see the logic, but big risk.
 
You know that guy will be lurking, waiting to strike again if England fail. Jeez, what's wrong with just letting a nation of fans have their moment? A little banter yes but there is some amazing bitterness on here.

Bullshit. You certainly didn't follow the conversation.


Good luck.


Hoping that Sweden will go through (logical as a german, still have no respect for englishmen who want their own country to lose).

Unfortunately :devil:, a well deserved win, congratulations!

Absolute nonsense. Of course it is.

Mexico beat Germany, Mexico were destroyed by Sweden. England have just beaten Sweden comfortably. These are facts.

If the winner of Belgium/France doesn’t absolutely batter the winner of England/Croatia or Russia then half the posters here are going to have absolute egg faces.

And Germany beat Sweden. So this is nonsense too, football is not that simple.

I'll tell you what's simple. Germany were shite and got knocked out. So piss off with your nonsense

Comments like that are the main reason why i don't want England to win the whole cup. :lol: The arrogance for the next 4 years of some users, not all ofc, would be unbearable.
 
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This tournament is the least I’ve been on this site in ages. So many negative people around who refuse to enjoy anything. Came into this thread to have a quick look and it’s just hating on England.
Just let them hate. I am loving going along for the ride. The next game might be the last, if not we might not win the final, but it has made me love my national team again, so well done England and well done Gareth Southgate.
 
Everyone it butt hurt that Ingurlund are doing well. Scottish are crying into their mcewans and the Welsh gutted their semi final two years ago has been toppled into insignificance ;).
 
To the Croatian United supporters, good luck. I'd like to face off against Croatia in the semis. Then the 1990 and 1998 semi finalists will at last have a team in the finals!