Should it be worthy of a pen is the question. Yes, that's the rule but the foul didn't impact the play at all, therefore we ask the question does Poland deserved to possibly give up a goal for it?
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Should it be worthy of a pen is the question. Yes, that's the rule but the foul didn't impact the play at all, therefore we ask the question does Poland deserved to possibly give up a goal for it?
So essentially there should be no punishment for very late challenges?
I'm not here to rewrite the rules just now but that foul doesn't deserve to be punished by an almost guaranteed goal.
Spain needs to go through and get thumped by a better team. Rooting for them here.
Excactly.
Next time defenders will just wait until the player passed the ball, so they can foul without a punishment
If it's not a foul, it can't be a card too with this definition.
How did he not get a yellow for those two tackles 
Another red for us wouldn't surprise me. They need to calm down a little bit.
We can have a debate about how a foul should be punished when the foul is in the box. But that is very much a separate debate is it not? Whether agree or not that all fouls in the box should be a penalty, doesn’t change the fact that presently any foul in the box is a penalty.
Penalty is for foul in the box, you can foul someone off the ball or after the ball is released.
This. Player played the ball without any disruption. Foul was happened after the ball played. Indirect free kick should be awarded in those situations rather than penalty.
An off the ball foul is still a foul mate.
Not really. Slow motion impacts decisions. For me, you have to accept in a game played with the feet, accidents are going to happen. Not all should be punished.
Enrique is obsessed with Sarabia
Guy is rubbish
Guy is rubbish
Except that isn’t the rule. Whilst I agree that one could debate if those types of fouls should be an indirect free kick, they aren’t currently, so it’s a penalty.
This whole team is rubbish thoughEnrique is obsessed with Sarabia
Guy is rubbish
Fair enough but that's what you seem to be attempting to do.
A foul outside the box is a free. A foul inside the box is a pen. I've no idea what this 'deserves' stuff is all about.
That wasnt an accident, it was a clumsy and dangerous foul
Schezny is so bad
I think it's pretty safe to say on here that Spain have been the biggest disappointment of the tournament?
Have no cutting edge at all and it's all the same pace, never any injection to what they want to do
Have no cutting edge at all and it's all the same pace, never any injection to what they want to do
It’s irrelevant because if it’s on his foot or his ankle doesn’t change the point, which was based on your logic in your previous posts, any issue off the ball isn’t a foul.
Also whether intentional or not is just another ludicrous argument. The majority of free kicks and penalties given in football are for accidents.
Genuine question: has the rule changed so that penalties can only be awarded if a foul stops a goal-scoring chance? Because that's what some people here seem to be suggesting re: the Spain penalty.
I'm pretty sure it's always been that a foul in the box which would be awarded with a direct free kick anywhere else on the pitch will result in a penalty kick, regardless of whether it prevented a goal. If they've changed that rule it might not be the craziest thing they've done, but I'm sure I would have remembered them doing that...
I'm pretty sure it's always been that a foul in the box which would be awarded with a direct free kick anywhere else on the pitch will result in a penalty kick, regardless of whether it prevented a goal. If they've changed that rule it might not be the craziest thing they've done, but I'm sure I would have remembered them doing that...
Jeez people are just saying it was a soft pen, not that you can foul at will off the ball.
Yeah it's the first part I'm talking about. I think an advantage there would have been fine. Give the player a yellow card retroactively or something because it was certainly a bad challenge but Poland didn't deserve to potentially go behind because of it.
The rule is what it is and was correctly applied.
Then I certainly agree on that point!
I can't decide where I stand on manager's attire. Sousa seems overdressed for standing on a touchline.
I agreed. That's the rule as of now. Penalty decision was correct by rule of law. Just disappointed with this rule though.
They aren’t though if you read back at some of the posts.
Spain's strikers... jesus
Nothing for England to worry about from Spain, says Danny Murphy.
In the box? If you foul them?
I'm conflicted with this one. On the one hand, i want Spain to do well. On the other hand, feck luis enrique, i want to see him fail very badly
@carvajal can't rubiales do anything to solve my conflict?
Btw, Orsato is putting in the refereeing performance of the tournament
@carvajal can't rubiales do anything to solve my conflict?
Btw, Orsato is putting in the refereeing performance of the tournament
Worst Spanish side in a long time this.
Only viewers need be scared for Spain v England. Shitshow guaranteed.
Spain are creating enough chances actually, but they are bad at scoring. They will be out pretty soon.
Anyway... back to the game. I literally can’t stand Spain, such a disappointing dull team
The thing is are they creating anything? They are having half chances but nothing concrete
They look a team out of ideas already which is a huge red flag for me with them going any further in the competition
They're saying it's soft cos the play has moved on, not go and break ankles.
Anyway it's by the by now.