How the feck are our football fans fickle in this situation? They support the club and every player that plays for the club. If a player wants to leave and it ends up with us being in a very disadvantageous position, you expect the fans to be lining up to kiss DDG's backside? You are the delusional one if you think that should be the case. The fans support the club and they will keep supporting the club regardless of where DDG goes. That is not fickle.
De Gea Contract Situation
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I don't understand the mentality of people saying we should keep him on the bench for the remainder of his contract and leave on a free next. Would you throw away ~20 million if you owned a large company?
It will be sweet when we beat them in a CL semifinal. Best of Luck though Dave!
No, but future players and agents will.
If DdG moves to Real on a free, Mendes gets less fee, as there's no transfer fee to take a cut from.
But then, the signing on fee can be larger as there's no transfer fee to pay - so both DdG and Mendes will get more...
But then, Real will have a transfer ban next summer, so keeping him now will teach Madrid a lesson.
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Not sure about this. Nice to believe that, but it's not reality.
Yeah, it was stupidly put, I edited it.
No-one said they should be doing that. What I said was that if you read the matchday threads throughout the year it is full of more than complimentary comments about DDG, whilst reading some of the comments on here he is one removed from the devil incarnate - that is fickle no matter how you look at it. And I'm not delusional, I simply have a different opinion to you.
RM have their heart set on DDG and with a world class keeper they have a bigger chance to win trophies. And I am not looking into is as revenge. The club doesn't need money and the club has to do what's best for the club and it's ultimate goal is to win trophies and world class players who win you points on their own throughout the season is a part of the formula of achieving that goal.
I would not call that fickle. Maybe people feeling let down and venting out their frustration by how this is panning out. Fickle would imply it is without any reason, which is definitely not the case in this situation. Also, people always admired and still admire his abilities as a GK and that is what was said is match day threads. We still admire that in him and thus the whole anger.
United should make it clear that they will not be selling DDG for less than fair value this summer. I think DDG would be professional enough to accept our decision and play on for another season. After that if he chooses to leave, he'll have my best wishes. Until then, he can shut up and perform for another year, or convince his future employers to pay up.
I don't see how being rigid on contracts will hurt our cause with future signings. They should know the club will not bend over for any player. They are free to pursue their dreams within the confines of their contract. They get better goodwill if their leaving doesn't leave us in a bad shape, money wise or personnel wise.
Losing the potential 20 million from selling him this summer stings a little bit, but subtracting the potential benefits of a higher league placement, and going further in the CL buffers the loss somewhat.
I'm not that worried about when or what the decision turns out to be. No point fretting until he makes a decision.
I don't see how being rigid on contracts will hurt our cause with future signings. They should know the club will not bend over for any player. They are free to pursue their dreams within the confines of their contract. They get better goodwill if their leaving doesn't leave us in a bad shape, money wise or personnel wise.
Losing the potential 20 million from selling him this summer stings a little bit, but subtracting the potential benefits of a higher league placement, and going further in the CL buffers the loss somewhat.
I'm not that worried about when or what the decision turns out to be. No point fretting until he makes a decision.
Totally disagree with that. Pogba said nothing too when he decide to move and maybe you would think he is professional? I would prefer honesty and respect everytime rather than keeping us in dark till it's too late (to find a replacement and avoiding financial loss)
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Can this just happen or not happen already, feck.
If we got Leno or Cech in to replace him, then I wouldn't mind seeing him go. Let's just get shit moving though
I think if we can do a ronaldo 2008 situation, have a gentleman's agreement with DDG, by saying to him unless Madrid come up with a market value price of about 37 to 40 million, we will keep you for one more year and then you can leave next summer even if its for free. If Real Madrid got this much money, they will pay the price. If DDG is a Spanish no1, they will pay for a Spanish no1. Same has how overpriced English players are, if mata can cost 37 million, so can DDG
Yep.
He wants to eat his cake and have it. Leave early AND get a big salary from Madrid. No way Holmes... Pick one. (Is what our position should be).
Ian Ladyman saying they're going to start the bidding at 13 million. Cheeky twats.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...worries-Iker-Casillas-influence-Bernabeu.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...worries-Iker-Casillas-influence-Bernabeu.html
IF this is true, I would send them a box full of s*** in order them to understand that 13M for one of the best in the world is nothing. What a joke.
They are selling super stars for 60m+, and they want us to give them our players....
That's the reason why I hate Madrid.
They are selling super stars for 60m+, and they want us to give them our players....
That's the reason why I hate Madrid.
After reading that, why on Earth would De Gea want to go there? The 'club' is a joke.
so casillas is spains nr.1 and yet real are desperate for ddg , it does not add up
Forum rules prevent me from saying what Madrid can do with that 13 milion.
ronaldo in last line on the kit photo , the saga must be true
Of course it adds up. Casillas has declined and is hardly getting any younger and De Gea is on the rise and is already a world class keeper at 24 years of age. There's not a more fitting heir to Casillas around right now.
Indeed, if that's the money they're offering then I'd rather we lost him on a free next year. Bunch of General Franco supporting fascists.I would rather we lost him for free next season even if they offered 30m, we won’t get any keeper for less money anyway. And certainly not on the same level as De Gea.Indeed, if that's the money they're offering then I'd rather we lost him on a free next year. Bunch of General Franco supporting fascists.
Yeah, I'd add sthing like that too.
He should be professional enough to deal with that. He's not a slave. He signed the contract - didn't have a gun to his head and is remunerated handsomely for it.
De Gea is better than him though - and should really be Spanish no 1. Casillas is a legend though - and he play's for Real. Real have to have the Spanish no 1. for some reason. Makes them feel important.
£13M? Taking the piss now those cnuts!
Get this feeling that Perez just wants to have De Gea at Madrid. Whether or not he's to be their No.1. It's like a kid, you don't really need another sweet, but you're damned if someone else gets it. De Gea might be in trouble once he moves there but it's all his own doing. From our point of view, anything less than £30M and he will just have to get used to leaving next year.
Get this feeling that Perez just wants to have De Gea at Madrid. Whether or not he's to be their No.1. It's like a kid, you don't really need another sweet, but you're damned if someone else gets it. De Gea might be in trouble once he moves there but it's all his own doing. From our point of view, anything less than £30M and he will just have to get used to leaving next year.
No sale. Full stop. I'd gladly lose Dave for free, if it put even the smallest spanner in the works.
same here. Why should even consider this? he has still a year left on his contract.
Yup.
It'd be a tight fit.
He won't have a lot, generally agents get between 10%-15% of the transfer fees, it's best for Mendes to push De Gea to sign a new contract and have a gentlemen agreement between him and Woodward for the sell.
If I were the cynical sort I'd suspect that this whole "planned" £13m bid from Real could well be Woodward's attempt to stage manage the now inevitable De Gea exit so when he does leave for ~£25m it looks like the club have stood firm.
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