De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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Kag said:
Yes, the interviews that many of them give to the daily tabloids are generally made to appease. I'm sure they do like support, and appreciate it while they are out there, but for many of them I expect that once they are home and have switched off from the 90 minutes they couldn't give a flying one whether or not Kag or NK86 (two people that should be doing something more entertaining on a Sunday night) are calling them shite on an internet forum. I doubt De Gea is getting too worked up about the fact that some of the support will be narked when he leaves. There's more important things to him than that.

I initially made the comparison, yes. I accept that the role of a professional footballer is very different, but like I said, doing what is right by yourself and those around you is largely the same irrespective of the job.

From a strictly footballing perspective, that the club aren't in a position of strength is obviously frustrating, I agree with you. I'm not that emotionally involved beyond that frustration, however. The club will move on quite fine, I expect.
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You are right in that DDG won't care what you or I think of him or what the OT faithful will think of him once he moves on. But he will care what the Madrid fans will think of him once he makes the move. Footballers are obviously bothered by what the fans make of them. No player would want to be a part of a club whose fans will jeer him and not support him.
So he might not care about us because he won't be with us for long but he sure as heck will care about his future club's fan base.

Again, I never denied he had every right to make his career choices but he should have done it in a better way than to not only put us in a very disadvantageous position re hia contract but also by not making up his mind about his future by now.

Finally and this will be my final post on this discussion, I am more emotionally involved than perhaps you are with the club. So you have every right to feel disinterested beyond a certain point while I and others like me have every right to feel hurt and disgusted at the way this has all played out.
 
pierrethesnack said:
People have very different relationships to the clubs and players they support. I mean, if your life is pretty grim or bleak, it's easy to get way too emotionally invested in the the dealings of the club. I don't think it does any good to call those people mental nobodies and tell them to get realistic. There are a lot of sad and lonely people out there for which football serves as a substitute for what they lack in their lives, so I don't blame them for getting a bit too intense (not aiming at anyone particular in this thread)

Personally I have long ago come to the realization that I love football but despise footballers and fotball culture in general. Whenever I go to a pub or a match I just realize that I have nothing in common with most of the people there.
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Fair points, both of them.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
Thing is they made sure he signed the damned contract renewal in time and difference with us is that they have their prime keeper right now without having had to go through the difficult stages with him whilst we lose ours after the difficult stage is finally over.
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I think management and CEO changes at United led to not renewing his contract last year. Woody, and Moyes had a mare.
 
Kag said:
His post is genuinely mental. The detachment isn't one sided, is it? When football supporters can no longer associate footballers with being human then any kind of rationale is lost.
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That's not what he's saying though. He's saying that he owes us a fair price to move back to Madrid after we turned him into the keeper that he is today.
 
fergieisold said:
I watched him leave the pitch today, and he wasn't bothered. He's here next season, but Madrid bound at some point I think.
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yea i noticed that too, even at the end it didn't seem like his last game at Old Trafford

then again maybe De Gea isn't the sentimental type
 
pierrethesnack said:
People have very different relationships to the clubs and players they support. I mean, if your life is pretty grim or bleak, it's easy to get way too emotionally invested in the the dealings of the club. I don't think it does any good to call those people mental nobodies and tell them to get realistic. There are a lot of sad and lonely people out there for which football serves as a substitute for what they lack in their lives, so I don't blame them for getting a bit too intense (not aiming at anyone particular in this thread)

Personally I have long ago come to the realization that I love football but despise footballers and fotball culture in general. Whenever I go to a pub or a match I just realize that I have nothing in common with most of the people there.
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Oh boy! :rolleyes:
 
Sultan said:
We're fans.

I don't think the owners would see it the same way.
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JustAFan said:
So let him go for nothing rather than get 15mil.
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I understand - but there is some threshold where his actual value to us in terms of merchandising and potentially points earned (resulting in higher league position and CL progress), along with having an entire year to sort out a replacement - is worthwhile.
 
NK86 said:
Oh boy! :rolleyes:
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Really, it wasn't directed at you. Just a general comment - I'm sure lots of people with perfectly jolly lives get very attached as well, I just think it's even easier if everything isn't fine.

I apologize if it seemed condescending, it wasn't my intention. Quite the opposite, actually.
 
JustAFan said:
So let him go for nothing rather than get 15mil.
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Without his goalkeeping this year we wouldnt be in the top 4 right now, what he did on the pitch for us compareable to our finishing position and bonus CL revenue secured, it was worth more than 15mill this year?.. no?
Next season I'd rather have De Gea's performances out there boosting our finishing positions in league & CL than a pathetic 12-15mill in the bank, seriously what does 12-15mill buy you in our league?

If Real want him NOW, then they have to pay for him.
 
duffer said:
I've seen nothing to suggest this whole "situation" isn't just the usual dance high profile players and their agents do to get a nice contract.
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feck off, you're just trying to anti-jinx it.
 
NK86 said:
Remember Keane and his "prawn sandwich brigade" jibe at the fans.

Players expect fans to stand by them and show them loyalty when they are going through a rough patch. So why shouldn't fans expect some back from the players. You cannot have it both ways where you say that fans should cheer for the players and root for them and then not expect anything in return except performances. If performance is the whole thing that matters then the players are getting paid for that. They shouldnt have to want the fans to cheer for them.
Football is not just some other profession, no matter how much you try to justify it. For starters, I don't get cheered by 80k people every time I step into the frickin office.
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Excellent point.

If anything, the prawn sandwich brigade is huge at the Bernabeu.
 
If Real baulk at the fee the club are possibly demanding, could they not just buy out his current contract? Or could DDG buy out his own contract and be reimbursed by Real?
 
Kag said:
His post is genuinely mental. The detachment isn't one sided, is it? When football supporters can no longer associate footballers with being human then any kind of rationale is lost.
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I think your rationale is lost. What has people being disgusted with De Geas choices got to do with them no longer associating footballers as human beings ?

He is a human being and he makes choices. I understand his motives for wanting to go to Spain and living with his girlfriend yet if he choses to leave for these reasons instead of repaying the loyalty and the respect and the chances he has got from United and its supporters than I find that choice an ungratefull one and one that disgusts me. There are plenty of choices people make that disgust me.

You seem to detach football from human beings. How in godsname can you expect people to pay overpriced tickets to come and see footballers and chear them on in the cold rain when they are playing poor and losing and need the support of their fans the most yet can't demand some respect and loyalty in return for that support ? Him leaving us at this point does not show alot of loyalty or respect from his side does it ? Isn't it only human that those football fans feel frustrated perhaps a bit betrayed and disgusted by the player for those reasons ?
 
I'm still part of the Yes vote as iv still not seen anything to suggest otherwise.

As for those already slagging him off, it's a shame you are fans of this club. He,s done nothing but give 100% since joining, hes never been an issue or outspoken and he always looks far more like he cares about the club than most of the others.

He isn't giving any less on the pitch, he isn't giving disrespectful interviews on foreign channels, he isn't even playing hard with the club, the negotiations have been far more civil than they can be.

The fact some of you are all but demanding he come out in May and tell you what he's doing is baffling to me. Not only would any decision on his part this early be illogical, but coming out now and telling us he's leaving(if that were the case) could have detrimental effects on not only our recent challenge for 4th but on the last few games and also on potential players coming to the club who might still be hoping De Gea a will be staying.

As for the "we made him, he made loads mistakes early on" argument, I don't know what you were watching. He was phenomenal at Atletico and even aside from the occasional weakness in the air (in which refs allowed many fouls by targeted attacks on him) De Gea was still playing well for us in his first 2 seasons, and since then has been far and away our most important and consistent player.

In my opinion, fans should be supporting players until a deal is done and he leaves or at least until he makes it clear that's his intention, as it is so called fans are slagging off our best player based on rumours from people who know nothing and make up 99% of what you lot apparently blindly believe.

I still hope he does decide to stay with us and any of you slagging him off are proved numpties, but if he does decide to move, he goes with my thanks and good wishes.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
I think your rationale is lost. What has people being disgusted with De Geas choices got to do with them no longer associating footballers as human beings ?

He is a human being and he makes choices. I understand his motives for wanting to go to Spain and living with his girlfriend yet if he choses to leave for these reasons instead of repaying the loyalty and the respect and the chances he has got from United and its supporters than I find that choice an ungratefull one and one that disgusts me. There are plenty of choices people make that disgust me.

You seem to detach football from human beings. How in godsname can you expect people to pay overpriced tickets to come and see footballers and chear them on in the cold rain when they are playing poor and losing and need the support of their fans the most yet can't demand some respect and loyalty in return for that support ? Him leaving us at this point does not show alot of loyalty or respect from his side does it ? Isn't it only human that those football fans feel frustrated perhaps a bit betrayed and disgusted by the player for those reasons ?
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Assuming you're a United fan do you see it from the same perspective players coming from other clubs to play for United?
 
Unlike Mata and Herrera, who i believe set out to make it outside Spain, I feel DDG always planned to leave us after a few years to return home.

If it is for family reasons I cant blame him and thank him for everything hes given us. He, for me, is the best keeper in the world and we were lucky to have him - even if it was for a short time.

That said i still hope he stays!
 
CassiusClaymore said:
That's not what he's saying though. He's saying that he owes us a fair price to move back to Madrid after we turned him into the keeper that he is today.
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I feel that he owes us his very best effort on the field, which he has done admirably since he came here. That's all I ask from him. It's up to the financial bods to attain a fair price for his transfer.
 
GimmeAKitKat said:
I'm still part of the Yes vote as iv still not seen anything to suggest otherwise.

As for those already slagging him off, it's a shame you are fans of this club. He,s done nothing but give 100% since joining, hes never been an issue or outspoken and he always looks far more like he cares about the club than most of the others.

He isn't giving any less on the pitch, he isn't giving disrespectful interviews on foreign channels, he isn't even playing hard with the club, the negotiations have been far more civil than they can be.

The fact some of you are all but demanding he come out in May and tell you what he's doing is baffling to me. Not only would any decision on his part this early be illogical, but coming out now and telling us he's leaving(if that were the case) could have detrimental effects on not only our recent challenge for 4th but on the last few games and also on potential players coming to the club who might still be hoping De Gea a will be staying.

As for the "we made him, he made loads mistakes early on" argument, I don't know what you were watching. He was phenomenal at Atletico and even aside from the occasional weakness in the air (in which refs allowed many fouls by targeted attacks on him) De Gea was still playing well for us in his first 2 seasons, and since then has been far and away our most important and consistent player.

In my opinion, fans should be supporting players until a deal is done and he leaves or at least until he makes it clear that's his intention, as it is so called fans are slagging off our best player based on rumours from people who know nothing and make up 99% of what you lot apparently blindly believe.

I still hope he does decide to stay with us and any of you slagging him off are proved numpties, but if he does decide to move, he goes with my thanks and good wishes.
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Absolutely! It's getting somewhat childish with some posters wishing he suffers from bad performances if he decides to move.
 
Christ that gave me a heart attack @PlayerOne, just seeing the pic then his name
 
JR10 said:
He hopes his medical goes to plan. If we are unbelievable, then why don't you stay? The RM fans wont treat you very nicely. Or are you trying to leave on a lowkey?
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They will love him I think.
 
Kag said:
I feel that he owes us his very best effort on the field, which he has done admirably since he came here. That's all I ask from him. It's up to the financial bods to attain a fair price for his transfer.
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True. We messed up not tying him down last season but it's still annoying to get ripped off by Madrid again.
 
GimmeAKitKat said:
He was phenomenal at Atletico and even aside from the occasional weakness in the air (in which refs allowed many fouls by targeted attacks on him) De Gea was still playing well for us in his first 2 seasons
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FECKING THIS.

It's quite shocking to watch some of those in replay. Players held his shirt (which is quite unusual in the case of goalies), jumped into his body time and time again, blatantly obstructed him, etc. I mean, if players did to him now what they did back then they would have been given a foul against them + maybe a yellow.

Don't want to sound to RAWK-ish, but it almost seemed as if the refs bought into the idea that DDG was so weak in the air that they just automatically let the play go on.
 
I'm disgusted that David De Parture didn't mention me by name in his tweet, considering the undying support I've given him from my computer chair.
 
PlayerOne said:
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He's been tweeting stuff like this after almost every game. I don't believe he's in this situation because he's trying to run down his contract to force a move away. I genuinely believe he is undecided. A club he appears to love, versus his home town, family, and starting a family of his own. I'd have no bitterness if he chose the latter.

I'm still keeping my Yes vote though. I still think there's a chance he could stay. Though even if he re-signs, I still think he'd only stay another 2 or 3 years, at the very most, which I'd be fairly happy with.
 
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