He is right, we should be fine without him and if we aren't it won't be because De Gea left but because we didn't improved collectively. A team should never rely on his goalkeeper.
De Gea Contract Situation
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He is right, we should be fine without him and if we aren't it won't be because De Gea left but because we didn't improved collectively. A team should never rely on his goalkeeper.
I think that's an overblown fear. Roy Carroll didn't lose us that many points, even though he was a spectacularly crap keeper. If we sign a good keeper, we shouldn't worry too much.
Can't help but feel this is what happens when you sell the best player in the World (Ronaldo a few years ago) to them. It sets a precedent that there is something bigger than United out there. In the pre-Glazer days, Ferguson always said if you left United you'd be going down a level. That is quite clearly no longer the case. If we'd reinvested the Ronaldo money straight away into top class talents (instead of as someone has already acutely pointed out, Valencia) perhaps we would have recovered. Another two or three Champions League's perhaps would have just cemented that legacy as the Worlds Biggest Club. What can you do though - there was no value in the market eh?
Tbh it will depend on the nature of goals conceded, so time will tell.
Perfect analogy
It is. And we're the loyal, "nice" guy who keeps getting his heart broken by whores.
Improvements in our defensive options will hopefully nullify the need to rely on our keeper as much as we have done. That being said, I'd rather have an established keeper behind a new defence that may take time to bed in.
True, however the fans were rarely at ease during matches with him behind goals. More or less the same thing now, things might be fine but there will be more anxiety regarding the goalkeeper spot at the start at least.
He wants to play for them , looks like he is getting his chance , good luck to him , hope he does well there.
Lots of legendary players played for other clubs. They have a rich history, yes, but so do many other clubs.
I think it's, above all, their shameless and aggressive self-promotion that did not start with Pérez which really sets them apart. No other club can do that with the same confidence and smugness.
I think any irrational bitterness I feel would probably be directed towards how poor we've been over the last couple of seasons.
Players wanting to leave for other clubs happens. What's really annoying here is that we can't even come up with a particularly good argument for him staying given our post SAF meltdown. He might have gone anyway but at least we'd have been able to say he was walking away from a team that was going to keep on challenging and winning regardless.
Don't really feel that angry at DDG for leaving as it feels like one more (and hopefully final) consequence of our slump over the last two years.
Can just imagine De Gea sat opposite Van Gaal: "It's not you, it's me boss."
I've seen some of the shite you've produced this season. I still believe you'll end up higher than 4th next season. I you don't, I'd start being worried if LVG is the right man for the job.Just take Benitez. Please!
Ok, maybe calling the defense in his first season as a shitshow was a stretch too far on my part. But can you honestly say that those who were regulars in Fergie's final season (if you could call any CB in that team a "regular"), or the ones under Moyes and van Gaal could be deemed as one of the good defenses we have had in 25 years?
The search for a top class centre back should have happened in Fergie's final season when Vidic was really struggling to stay fit, and Ferdinand was only going to regress in time (even though he had a cracking season that year). And in regards to "being carried by those in front of him"; shouldn't that be expected slightly of players who have been in the club years to do, when they are bringing in a 20 year old keeper? Strange opinion that one.
Anyway, my comment was half tongue in cheek, because I see the real reason for him wanting to move to Madrid is partly for family, partly because it is both the biggest club that is in his hometown as well as his country, and is widely regarded as the biggest club in the world. He will be going from playing behind the likes of Jones Smalling and Evans to playing behind Pepe, Ramos and Varane. If you can't see the difference of quality there as to being no reason at all to leave, then I can't really explain further.
And to respond to his decision to leave, perhaps people look to find reasons for him to leave is because there isn't a known one yet, so they could at least suggest what it is? Or is freedom thought, no matter how far fetched it can be, not allowed on a forum?
Yes but like you said the promotion of these great players play the main role, Madrid turned them into football legends.
We also have a tendency to stick it out in shite relationships because the girl is willing to nosh us off every day. She offers little else, her fanny stinks and her blowjob technique is mediocre at best but we keep giving her second chances anyway.
That analogy has probably been taken far enough now, I think... I'll contemplate my life in quiet now.
I can't believe he's treating me like this after I named my kid after him.
Still, I probably should've named him David instead.
Still, I probably should've named him David instead.
I wouldn't say picking up speed more newspapers quoting tweets from Neil Custis and the Daily Mail. It's pretty much The Sun's story copied and pasted in other outlets.
I don't hate De Gea for this. Real on the other hand giving us a low fee and not letting us speak to Real's players. If we get anything under 20mil I'd keep him let him for a year and let him leave for free after next season. 20mil with the money United have to spend is nothing really. His performances this season have been worth well over 20mil and it'll be the same next season too. You get that 20mil back keeping him in a way.
What if he makes a few errors, will Perez get rid?
I agree with this. But if that's the case I don't get why we would'nt make it clear to David that that's what we're doing and ask him to sign a new contract with a release clause in it. If Madrid want him so bad they should stump up the cash. We wont stand in his way if he wants to go but he can at least help us get big money for him. Why would he you say? Signing on bonus + loads more cash and cash straight into Mendes' back pocket if that's what he wants.
Rich, trashy and voluptious?
He'll be back at Atletico before the decade is out. Although, probably not.
You lot stole him from his childhood sweetheart!
Yea but we stood by him whilst he was giving crappy blowjobs.
But we paid good money for that mail-order bride!
Such a shame so many top players come from southern Europe, and south America, and not northern Europe, as we'd have far more chance of of signing, or hanging into them when Madrid/Barca come calling.
Re DDG I'm more concerned about the damage to our image than the enevitable loss of the player, I still think we should force him to see out his contract just to show we won't be bullied into selling.
Re DDG I'm more concerned about the damage to our image than the enevitable loss of the player, I still think we should force him to see out his contract just to show we won't be bullied into selling.
Wouldn't that make some players thinking twice before joining the club ? I mean for those who "dream" to play in Spain one day.
I still think he will stay.
THIS IS WHAT YOU LEFT ME FOR?
Surprised to see 495 still hanging on.
We should be able to see who still believes. As the "he's staying" numbers dwindle, we'll be able to see who's holding on the most.
Is it not a big deal in Spain to play for a rival? He joined Atletico when he was 13 and stayed for 8 years prior to joining us.
Actually, I said that Bale wouldn't be sold to a Prem rival, and that if he was sold to RM it would be for an outrageously stupendous fee (a world record fee as it turned out). But let's not derail this thread.
Maybe, but we can't have this situation again, we are not a stepping stone club to Madrid, we have spent so much time and effort getting DDG to the stage he is at now from here he will only get better, and we could walk away with about the same money we paid for him?
It's a ridiculous situation and I just think given the fact we are about to become the club with highest revenues in the world again very soon one we shouldn't allow happen, a year is a long time, make him stay in the hope we can get him to sign, if he doesn't have we really lost that much.
If Madrid though want to pay us his true value then fair enough he can go.
It's like the Japanese hiding out in the jungle.
Massive arses...
We're very weak and bad at selling players tbh. We need to show more balls and ask for outrageous fees, even it risks losing the player for free.
I`d keep him another year if Real don't want to pay. 20 million is a joke even if he has only 1 year left.
He will stay. Quote me.
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