Irritates a bit that Real's supposed interest in Aguero is going nowhere. City had the good sense to tie him to a contact that won't lapse until 2019. How did De Gea slip through the cracks? We should have extended his deal a couple of years ago.
De Gea Contract Situation
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We don't need income from transfer sales though. So, where our top quality players are concerned, unless it's enough to make a statement of power, it's never enough.
Only makes the club look weak for no tangible benefit.
Money only matters as a representation of power.
Keeping De Gea until the end of his contract gives us a world class keeper who has to keep playing well for his career's sake, and an extra year to scout replacements.
We started trying last summer maybe even before. Takes TWO to make a contract. Silly to think we just let his contract slip through the cracks. He just has not been willing to sign an extension.
Its not the club's fault you cant force the man to sign the contract.
Not legally anyways.
Pretty sure we have replacements scouted not like this situation has snuck up on us. Plus I would imagine you keep scout files in case of surprise transfer requests or career ending injuries.
25 mil makes us look weak but zero is somehow better. Brilliant
Amazing how many times that has to be pointed out to people.
What we'd prove is this...
Don't let your contract run down and then expect to demand a move to a direct rival if you're a Manchester United player.
10 pages since I was last on. So is this thing done? What is the latest news?
More waiting. More posts about proving something by letting Real Madrid have De Gea for free. That'll teach them.
Rage. Disillusionment. Mutiny.
That video made me sad for some reasonAnd that was his first season, when he was meant to have been a flop.
No you can't, but you can try to negotiate one before the final year.
Negotiations started in 2013, you think the club just completely forgot to offer their star keeper a new and improved deal? according to Balague, once DDG caught wind of Madrid's interest in potentially using him to succeed Casillas, he wasnt relatively keen on staying in Manchester anymore, but Madrid were going to wait for 2 seasons before making a move, when Rooney signed his new deal, DDG was supposed to also sign his but he didnt, and here we are 2 seasons later, he still hasn't signed his contract and Madrid have made him their number one priority.
There's absolutely nothing Manchester United could have done in this situation, we didnt sign Valdes just to sell shirts you know, he was signed to make us less vulnerable in that position for a season(when the spaniard inevitably hangs us out to dry), while we set out to look for a long term replacement, Leno comes to mind, that is until Bayern comes knocking.....Lloris has also been mentioned.
Obviously it's better. It goes against Mendes and Real Madrid's will. We keep one of the world's best keepers for another season. It sends out a much better message than the alternative, which is just Real Madrid bullying us in the transfer market yet again. Also could dissuade other players and their slimy agents from holding off on new deals to try to put themselves in positions of power.
And if we forced De Gea to stay he'd quite possibly end up signing an extension. Because once the transfer window closes if he's still here, from his point of view he might as well be paid £200k/week, presumably include a buy-out clause and so secure a bigger fee for us in a year's time.
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.I love De Gea, he is my favourite player BUT if he does go then a part of me does hope that Madrid fail under Benitez and do not win a thing. It will sting a bit seeing him make ridiculous save after ridiculous save for them
Seeing him as a wiry kid making big saves from Mata and RVP...so much change in so little time.
No matter who comes in, won't have some of his signatures like the kick saves and the jungle cat reflexes
Valdes' reflexes are as good as de Gea's, he's still a truly world class shot stopper. It's just his aerial prowess that's lacking.
Cech can command and arrange an area better than de Gea and is probably better at set pieces.
How about we stop signing Mendes clients [Iberians and Spanish players] who are 19 yrs old and have a big future ahead of them, that will be a good start. Anyway, contract situation, if he hasn't signed a contract now, we might as well sell him and move on. Finally, hope this will push us to sign some proper defenders.
Wow! You are making it sound as if he is leaving some relegation fodder to join the champions. Madrid won as many trophies as we did last season - ZERO. And if you look up the record books for the last 10 years, I am sure we would have won more than they have in that period. We are not Spurs or Liverpool, who have no chance to make their mark in the league or the champions league. We have spent 235m pounds since Fergie retired and plan to spend another 150m this summer. There is every chance that we could be back challenging if we get the signings right. Madrid also is not some stable club, they just canned their manager and appointed another one; an appointment which can go either way.
I am baffled why would a United fan would want to sell ourselves short like that. They aren't miles ahead of us.
May be he wants to "go home", I can buy that bullshit, but "career progression"? That's freaking nonsense.
The only thing I don't like about this is the fact that De Gea has scant respect for the fans. Not that we should have expected it, but given the support and the adulation he has received at Manchester United, the least he could have done was to let people know of his intentions. I really do not know what's going through his mind in not coming out cleanly and at the same time not signing a contract.
At least he could have signed a new contract, so that we can have an upper hand in negotiating the sale with Real. DDG was immense this season, but if we get a fair amount of quid for him (30 mil+), I would not hold it against him. If we get peanuts because he is in the last year of his contract, then, well, we will move on, anyways.
I think over at RAWK they'd temporarily ban those, just to make sure they can't change their vote
Fully agree!
On the basis of that, we would have never signed Ronaldo.
DDG did alright replacing Edwin and he had no premier experience..
Do Real really have a transfer ban from next season?
But I suppose De Gea can talk to clubs freely in January and sign a pre contract with them to get around that loop??
But I suppose De Gea can talk to clubs freely in January and sign a pre contract with them to get around that loop??
He just wants to move home with his girlfriend , nothing at all underhanded about it , he probably loves being at United but the lure of his hometown is a big pull too . He can't openly say he wants to go because negotiations could break down and he may have to stay another year where everyone knows he's off next summer . We may be negotiating for one of their players too . Even if he leaves we'll be ok , we've replaced bigger players in the past .
We were very naive in allowing a player to come to this stage without selling him out. Also I wont be surprising if Mendez is punishing us for not signing the dead horse. SAF did signed the homeless one for 7m.
It's strange as it would be nice to see him stay and he's one of the best in the world but I find myself not caring that he'll leave. Given that he is Spanish and our history of selling to Madrid it it something I've always assumed would happen since his first season and it doesn't really bother me now we have Valdes. Good luck to him if he goes.
Did he feck, it took almost 2 years for him to come good.
2 years ? Funny I don't remember it taking that long.
Yeah, it's getting a bit silly now with all this revisionism.
"Took a chance on him" as if he had been turned down by club after club, and had huge question marks over his potential.
"Stood by him" even though he was our best keeper for every minute of his time here, was already showing his class, and was only going to get better. Not sure what the alternative was really? Just hand him back to a Spanish club and play the inferior Lindegaard, or sign Begovic?
"Crap for his first two seasons" even though he quite literally showed clear improvements every few months, until we got to last season where he brilliant, and then this season, where he showed barely any weaknesses. Really this should be: "He wasn't world class in his first two seasons"
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No, they don't.
Took him 2 years
He made some incredible saves in his first season.
He made some incredible saves in his first season.
The first season he was all over the place, Fergie rotated him with Anders. In the second season, he was a lot more steady. But it wasn't really till his third season that he really started entering the "world-class" realm.
It didn't. It looks like he's off so history will start being rewritten.
Yes and just because he wasn't world class, it doesn't mean he wasn't good.
Rewritten seems like too soft of a word. We're seeing a clear attempt of mass hypnosis
Yes but before his third season, he was still good and was very harshly criticized in the media for stupid reasons at times. I remember once in the CL, he was criticized for making a cracking save with his leg. It took a while for him to get the recognition he deserved.
That very well might be the case. Just mere speculation but Mendes could have taken Woodward at face value based on his dealings last window and expected a record breaking transfer for Falcao. What he got instead was caution and a 1 year loan deal to prove his client's worth. He definitely lost millions in the deal (something that didn't go down well).
However, if a player of De Gea's pedigree and intelligence gets influenced by his agent then all hope is lost. Again, I am not cribbing. Just pointing out the fact that there was no need to act loyal and self-appoint himself as a transfer agent for us when deep down he never had that connect. If he did, he would have explained his stance by now.
Rewritten seems like too soft of a word. We're seeing a clear attempt of mass hypnosis
I don't see what's the problem with what I said? His first year was clearly shit, obviously you can never know, but with a better keeper we probably would have won the title(it was the season where we lost because of GD), second season he obviously started improving but he was still dodgy coming out for crosses and decision making was still not the best.
It is still way too harsh to say he was good in his third season and not before when he made countless of important saves in those two seasons.
He started improving after new year.
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