It really is going to be a strange time for the next one month but he has put himself in this situation and he deserves this shit.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Yeah this is like the Transfer Window Final, where we're playing against the current champions who have won it for the past 20 years straight, and we've been doing an Arsenal getting knocked out in the round of 16 every year since records began. We've finally got a CEO who is as concerned about the stature of the club, as making the books balance, and a manager who simply doesn't give a rat's ass about etiquette.Woody and LVG are a badass team!I'm glad we are finally sticking it up to Real
The odds are stacked against us, but for some reason we believe.
there have been so many times that lvg to stress that he doesn't talk about money. there is no way that he would be the one to decide the fees on ddg. obviously real's trying to put the blame on lvg and make it personal, as they do not dare to ignite a war against united directly. i bet this is the idea from mendes.
the claim that we won't release ddg until we find his replacement is a total bullock. this is not unfair to say we have prepared this for over half a year by signing in valdes. this is okay to us without ddg around even if the season kicks out tomorrow. we won't be in panic
the claim that we won't release ddg until we find his replacement is a total bullock. this is not unfair to say we have prepared this for over half a year by signing in valdes. this is okay to us without ddg around even if the season kicks out tomorrow. we won't be in panic
The Mirror saying that he wants to leave this week, because he is embarrassed to see the people at Carrington.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfers-david-de-5970206
What are they basing that on? There's no quotes from anyone. Sounds like column-filler because the De Gea situation has been quiet. And it's the Mirror, which is barely a step up from the Daily Star.
I have no idea where they get their info, but The Times are reporting the same thing today.
Will the United fans get an open letter from DDG like Cech did for the Chelsea fans? What would the reaction be or will be just get swatted aside in his procession to Real?
He did the same for Atletico did he not?
Open letter from DDG,now that would be funny...
I know Ronaldo signed a new contract with us on the understanding that we would still allow him to leave, having extracted the best possible price for him. But is that normal behaviour? I found it extraordinary at the time, and if I were to be cynical I would say it might have something to do with his own desire to move for a record breaking fee, safe in the knowledge that Real WOULD pay up for him. I am not entirely cynical, I believe he also did it because it was in Manchester United's interests. If he had let his contract run down he could have pocketed a proportion of the transfer fee in wages and made himself a lot of money. But still, it is easier to do something when interests align, rather than acting out of pure altruism.
I am asking this because a few people have suggested De Gea should not have spoken to Madrid until he'd signed a new contract with us, with a similar agreement in place. Its a nice idea, but, again, is that the norm? It seems like an illogical approach to me. I dont personally have any issue with De Gea letting his contract run down, just like I dont have any problem with us forcing him to see that same contract out - and I believe both sides (us and the player, not Madrid) would be professional if it came to that, he would give his all and would not be unduly miserable. After all, he can console himself that, as a free agent, he will be able to negotiate himself a very nice salary indeed.
I am asking this because a few people have suggested De Gea should not have spoken to Madrid until he'd signed a new contract with us, with a similar agreement in place. Its a nice idea, but, again, is that the norm? It seems like an illogical approach to me. I dont personally have any issue with De Gea letting his contract run down, just like I dont have any problem with us forcing him to see that same contract out - and I believe both sides (us and the player, not Madrid) would be professional if it came to that, he would give his all and would not be unduly miserable. After all, he can console himself that, as a free agent, he will be able to negotiate himself a very nice salary indeed.
Depends on what terms he left Atletico doesn't it?
Dude, LVG is "The Manager". Do you honestly believe that the manager does not have a say about the transfer fees, for our incoming or outgoing players?
LVG, Wenger, Guardiola, Mourinho, Fergie (I could go on), all have intimate knowledge about the dealings in the transfer window, for their own respective clubs.
If Woodward receives an offer for £10M for DDG, one of the very first things he will most likely do is get LVG's advice. It'll be stupid not to. I can't think of one reason why he would exclude LVG. Communication is a key part of management.
In some clubs you have a director of football, who will handle the transfer dealings with the CEO. The Manager may be left out of the loop in such a scenario, but we do not have a DOF and if everything goes tits up, then LVG's job will be on the line, not Woodward's.
I'm guessing that our tough stance regarding DDG is partly down to LVG - he is very stubborn and doesn't give a damn about stepping on R.Madrid's toes.
Above all he did it because his new contract gave him better wages. DDG is just much calmer about everything. Things like if he spends next year at RM or United and if he earns a few million less for a couple of years or not or if he moves to Madrid despite being an Atletico kid don't seem to bother him much.
Not sure about that. he would have been gone the previous summer had Madrid not been so arrogant. He was buttered up with better wages but still got stroppy that season and came out with the daft slave comment
No doubt he wanted to go. Just think SAF sat him down and told him what was what and Ronaldo was open to what SAF suggested. Because it made sense to him but also because SAF convinced him it was the "right thing to do" as far as the club that had nurtured him was concerned.
The difference is probably SAF.
Changed my mind about De Gea. Woody should just hold onto him unless Real pay close to what we are asking, or let him leave for free next year. It's still a lot of money to lose, but the club needs to make a stand and not let Real bully us into selling De Gea cheaply. We arse r@ped every time we try and sign a player, usually paying much, much more than the player is worth.
I find the whole "DDG doesn't want to face ppl at United so wants the deal to happen this week" completely made up. I mean he didn't have any problems after all facing ppl at United over the entire last season and even longer while not having extended his contract, so why should he have any problems now? Nothing has changed and it's not like he has publicly criticized his teammates and club or agreed with any slave comments in the meantime and thus would be ashamed to see us again.
In addition a guy who isn't bothered to join RM and as a result cutting all ties with Atletico will be hardly fearing to set a foot in our club again
In addition a guy who isn't bothered to join RM and as a result cutting all ties with Atletico will be hardly fearing to set a foot in our club again
Everytime I try to put myself in his shoes, i cant imagine why I would want to go to Madrid.
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being asked of an opinion is a different thing from dictating a matter. no doubt the pricing decision lied on woody. and i don't see any concern from lvg in playing a part to decide of how much ddg can go. he is a footballer and his concern is that he needs to know asap whether if he is a united player or not by the coming season. fergie once suggested to ask for 150m when ronaldo was sold, and gill simply thought this was an crazy idea and no way real would entertain it. the manager can actively involve in the matter but is never the final decision maker in talking about money when the club owner inserted a chief executive to be responsible and answer to the owner. and i don't think lvg is interested in the money matter at all despite it doesn't mean woody cannot bring the matter to him and ask for his opinion if he's in need, unless it can affect the overall budget which in turn will affect the other players he can acquire. not likely such a complicated things here for the ddg case though.
being asked of an opinion is a different thing from dictating a matter. no doubt the pricing decision lied on woody. and i don't see any concern from lvg in playing a part to decide of how much ddg can go. he is a footballer and his concern is that he needs to know asap whether if he is a united player or not by the coming season. fergie once suggested to ask for 150m when ronaldo was sold, and gill simply thought this was an crazy idea and no way real would entertain it. the manager can actively involve in the matter but is never the final decision maker in talking about money when the club owner inserted a chief executive to be responsible and answer to the owner. and i don't think lvg is interested in the money matter at all despite it doesn't mean woody cannot bring the matter to him and ask for his opinion if he's in need, unless it can affect the overall budget which in turn will affect the other players he can acquire. not likely such a complicated things here for the ddg case though.
"Thanks for being my stepping stone to Real, I was always going to end up there. K bye."
El Confidencial writes today that de Gea doesn't want to go to Madrid while Iker is in the team.They say that was her mother who said to Jorge Mendes.The contract would be 30 m€ after tax in 5 years + bonus.Madrid is willing to pay to Iker 14 €after tax to finish the contract but Iker wants a team in C.L and 7m€ net.Roma offered 3.5 but was not enough for him.Fenerbahce offered 7 but he didn't like the idea,besides he wants to play the next Euro and he needs minutes,therefore should look for some solution in the next days
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I hope it's bloody awkward for him.
can't really see him as a back-line leader with these actions
What a guy 
Brilliant. All he had to do was sign a new contract, and we'd have sold him for more. He refused to play ball, and now we'll refuse to sell him.
No one is bigger than the club.
No one is bigger than the club.
Seriously though, why not speak to someone at the club or get your agent or another party to do. Guy just assumed we'd sell him with no problems
I can't feel any sympathy for him.Well, why would he want to go to Madrid with no shoes?
If that's true, it would be very amusing for the other players. "Oh, Hi Dave, what are you doing here?"
I hate it when a player who I like leaves on bad terms. Unfortunately he seems to type who can be manipulated easily, by Madrid, by his agent and likely by his girlfriend. If he doesn't put a transfer request in the loyalty bonus will come in handy for her singing lessons.
Seriously though, why not speak to someone at the club or get your agent or another party to do. Guy just assumed we'd sell him with no problems
He obviously thought he had us over a barrel.
let's see if he had the balls to pull a Suarez
Woody should make an example out of him. Has to do the fitness training, but then sits out of anything technical. Or made sleep in the same room as Jones on tour.
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A few months ago, I read that Mendes advised him to stay at least 2 more years, so for once he might be innocent.
Sup peeps?
I'd like to tell you all how much I have enjoyed my time at Manchester United. I mean; I really really really would like to tell you all that but I can't because it's been an absolute nightmare. How the hell do you people survive with only two KFCs in the city centre?! You have 6 fecking Nando's but apparently the Colonel isn't welcome around these parts. Madrid has 9 KFCs. NINE.
Sort your shit out, Manchester.
Dave.
Poor David, besides he will have to go to a hotel or sleep with Juan or Ander
I think his parents were quite happy for him to stay with us as well. IT'S ALL THE GIRLFRIENDS FAULT.
The pure traumatic experiences from that might leave a permanent scar. Imagine DDG doing Jonesy faces everytime he makes a save or do anything really.
Pussy is a powerful thing,it makes you act braindead. Once i got kicked from the car in middle of the night in middle of nowhere by a friend(well not so much after that),because some bird promised him that he gonna get some if he turns his car back and pick her and 3 gfs Even it wasnt that funny back then.
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