De Gea Contract Situation
- Thread starter Sassy Colin
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
- Status
I like De Gea as a keeper and will continue to do so as long as he is here. When he leaves, he instantly transforms to a cnut of the highest order. Until then, he is a top guy.
Even if he extends though, it'll be only a matter of time (like one year or two) till he leave, IMO.
Please don't go ...
I am not bother regarding DDG in any scenario,stay or leave same crap for me.Just saying if you want to leave and play for FSW,to be with your world wide known talented super star gf and to be with your family,just ask to leave and put a transfer request.
That would be terrible management and is something I'd expect a 5 year old to do. I assume that you are young and frustrated, so I wont take what you are saying seriously.
If he stays, great. If he leaves (for a good fee), then we will find another keeper and life will go on.
Personally, I'd like to hold onto him for at least 1 more year.
There is talk that we will sell DDG, if we get Ramos. My take on it is that Ramos is untested in the EPL and could fail spectacularly in our league. DDG is tried and tested in our league is fantastic.
I think Ramos and DDG is not a fair swap. We are taking all the risks (on Ramos) while Madrid are getting the best GK in the World.
It's not childish.
There is no point in selling De Gea for a cut price. Get top dollar or he stays.
Fortunately, this seems to be the club's stance.
Wouldn't hate him, wouldn't love him but glad to cheer for him as long as he's playing well and not mouthing off to the press. Would expect him to be gone by next year though, think that's the only way an extension gets signed.
He didn't go Ramos on us so there's no logical reason to suddenly hate him whatsoever.
All good, I'd expect. He's not agitated for a move, he's been respectful and kept his trap shut. No-one can hold it against him that he wants to go and live in his home city again, especially given that that city happens to contain the world's most prestigious football club. And he's never given the impression that he doesn't love United - he obviously has good friends here, has settled in very well over the years, and gives absolutely everything on the pitch. It's just that regardless of that affection, he ultimately wants to go and play in Madrid.
Basically he seems like a great lad who does right by the club and who I'm proud to cheer for as long as he's a United player.
The childish part of your post is 'stick the cnut in the stands for the whole season', not refusing to sell him.
I agree that there's no logical reason but when did that ever stop football fans?
I remember a game where Chelsea fans (including myself) were booing Dean Saunders (he ended the career of a Chelsea player a few years earlier) as he was warming up on the other side of the pitch until we realised it wasn't actually Dean Saunders. We carried on booing anyway.
Hey venting bad emotions can be healthy. I reckon Dean Saunders' feelings didn't suffer a lot that day anyway.
David De Gea is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Some may argue he's the best. Definitely right up there. Sergio Ramos is a good defender, but he is not one of the best around. And allegedly Real Madrid are demanding world record type money for him. It should be the other way around. Ramos is 29. No way is he worth what they want. We should be valuing DDG at huge money, even with only a year left of his contract.
Why are Madrid so half arsed with going about their way to sign him anyway? The Madrid we all know, typically just steam in and pay whatever it takes to get their man.
It's been said before but usually it's the signings they make in their attack that are more gung-ho. A goalkeeper won't excite their fans.
Even our resident Real Madrid fans are nearly indifferent to the potential signing of de Gea, even though he's the best 'keeper in the world.
He never did anything in both the transfer requests "openly". It was Fergie who made it public knowledge in both cases.
It's true in principle, but it was never going to work that way.
-Firstly, De Gea is still somewhat underrated by many, and Ramos is seriously overrated. FIFA World XI regular, etc.
-Secondly, despite the logic of it young players - even those like DDG who are already established world class - still tend to go for less than older, longer-established players, not more.
-Thirdly, goalkeepers are always much cheaper than outfield players. Again, it makes little logical sense but that's the way it is.
-Fourthly, United never get big fees when we sell players. Ronaldo being the exception that proves the rule. Mostly because we only sell when we either don't want the player any more or the player is demanding the move and we have no leverage.
I'm pretty confident Woody will stick to his guns in terms of refusing to pay more for Ramos than we get for De Gea, effectively saying it's a swap or nothing. In an ideal world, Ramos would actually be worth less than De Gea. But I'd be happy enough as long as we don't end up paying more for him, which really would be a travesty.
That's a good point indeed.
He won't sell many shirts, so he's worthless [/madrid logic]
I'm not being precious, I was just pointing out how you conveniently left that part out when you responded and said "Childish? Me? Never"
I'd be a bit meh towards him. Once he started making world class saves and winning us points I would love him again though.
I don't think it's childish to hold someone to a contract to send out a signal, especially since the cost to us wouldn't be that grave.
how is De Gea under rated? he was clearly ropey for a few years then blossomed, now widely accepted as one of the best around. Hence why madrid want him. And to say Ramos is seriously overrated, come on. won world cup, euros, champions league and la liga. been at madrid for 10 years, a club where they carve you up after a year. He's older than i'd like but Smalling/Jones aint in the same league as him
Maybe if we can stall this until he has to report back for pre-season, Van Gaal and Woodward can then pressure him into signing a new contract, with no agents around. Even if we end up selling him, we'll get a better price.
It's childish to punish him by having him sitting in the stands, while buying a replacement that's worse than he is on the pitch. Not to mention the financial irresponsibility of it.
Your original quote stated, "I'd get Lloris in and stick the cnut [De Gea] in the stands for the whole season."
That is childish and terrible management. You dont keep your best player out of your team, if he wants to play.
In any case, lets not bicker over this....arguing over such minor things is silly....lets move on.
I agree with this.
In fact, I'd say dont sell him at all, at any price. Keep him. Let him play next season and then he can leave for free the following year or he re-signs with us (if he splits from his GF or we show trophy winning potential).
I agree with this.
The longer the stand off continues, the more chance we have of keeping him.
Madrid want to replace Cassillas this year and if they see no movement on the DDG deal, I think they will turn their attention to another keeper.
If it was United doing this people would be whining all day long about how awful we are at transfers
True that. Give it a few days and people will be blaming us for being unable to sell De Gea quickly enough.
I honestly think they were expecting to get him for peanuts.
Because it's a one horse race for a player who has a year left on his deal and can be signed for nothing in a year. They think we'll fold and, let's be honest, history suggests we will.
I would be happy with our current goalies when De Gea goes. We are strengthening the defence and midfield. We will be fine.
It wouldnt surprise me if the whole Ramos thing was just a ploy by Woody to give Real a taste of their own medicine.
Then we just need
"De Gea using Madrid interest to get an (even more) improved contract"
Would make my summer that.
Then we just need
"De Gea using Madrid interest to get an (even more) improved contract"
Would make my summer that.
Also this - I think their sheer and unbridled arrogance led them to assume that we would simply accept whatever offer they threw at us.
If we dont get Ramos...just have De Gea play out his final year.
The fact that he is doing all of this for a 29 year old is
. It would be 
if he moved to Madrid, pissed off fans of his boyhood club, then his GF hit the wall hard at 30 or 31.That is just what they thought, player they want and he wants to play for them , in his last year, I bet they dont want to spend over £12-15m and definitely not the £30m+ we are asking for.
I hope the 'No Ramos then no De Gea' stance is true. If Ramos was just looking for a better deal they have put themselves in checkmate. Madrid then get pissed at Ramos for ballsing up their transfer. Beautiful
- Status