He's not going to take the risk of playing someone whose mind isn't on the job.
What's Woodward got to do with this?
De Gea Contract Situation
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He's not going to take the risk of playing someone whose mind isn't on the job.
What's Woodward got to do with this?
I'd keep him and put the him on bench for the whole season resulting him in loosing his place for Euros. Sly Fecker.
Madrid have just spent €32m on a FM fanboy midfielder that they don't need.
Can't see them splashing out €30m+ on De Gea now. He'll be on the bench then until/if Romero messes up.
Can't see them splashing out €30m+ on De Gea now. He'll be on the bench then until/if Romero messes up.
There is no way van Gaal will bench de Gea for a whole season if he stays, this is only done untill the transfer window shuts so de Gea can focus his mind again.
The benefit of keeping him for another year is to play him, not to let him rot in the reserves as some sort of punishment or mockery to Real Madrid while we nicely pay his wages every a week. It is why we won't accept a low transfer fee, de Gea sportive wise offers us more than if our demands aren't met that it would financially for selling our best player. De Gea will have to win his place back but that shouldn't be a problem with his quality and he also wants to play at EURO 2016 as extra motivation.
The only reason he could be benched for a season is if he falls out with van Gaal or becomes terrible, which can theoretically happen to any player. We will however sell de Gea if our demands are met, it's just a question if Real Madrid want to pay or wait for a year. This is how I currently see things.
The benefit of keeping him for another year is to play him, not to let him rot in the reserves as some sort of punishment or mockery to Real Madrid while we nicely pay his wages every a week. It is why we won't accept a low transfer fee, de Gea sportive wise offers us more than if our demands aren't met that it would financially for selling our best player. De Gea will have to win his place back but that shouldn't be a problem with his quality and he also wants to play at EURO 2016 as extra motivation.
The only reason he could be benched for a season is if he falls out with van Gaal or becomes terrible, which can theoretically happen to any player. We will however sell de Gea if our demands are met, it's just a question if Real Madrid want to pay or wait for a year. This is how I currently see things.
Thankfully the club is run by (mostly) logical people, not spiteful halfwits.
It wasn't my assumption - just what was reported somewhere.
We are obliged to pay his salary but are not obligated to keep him in shape for his next employer.
If it's true that Madrid are even considering selling Isco...
Not a bad move from Real with the £12m sign on fee - I don't think it's necessary anyway but I guess it's just a way to make sure De Gea's head doesn't turn when the window ends and United offer him a contract with about 300k+ a week.
Oh, so they offer him 12M pounds sign on fee but offer United 13M Euros for transfer? 
I think that the offer for United is 25m euros + 5 extra based on targetsOh, so they offer him 12M pounds sign on fee but offer United 13M Euros for transfer?
£21million is an extravagant price to pay for a player in his last contract year. I hope Madrid don't go any higher than that this summer!
I do not know what to say, it is a difficult signing, because René Ramos has interfered , which has clouded the atmosphere. People are very happy with Navas but surely the board think, "what will happen when Navas has a bad game?", Bernabeu will look directly to the board stage and will blame the president for not close the signing and of course will use the price of Danilo and Kovacic to justify the stinginess. Madrid press now has started the "Free De Gea" campaign, now Van Gaal is a dictator, trying to make him look like a bad professional, while the player holds a lot of pressure because his dream is to play in Madrid. Perfect excuse for Madrid to raise the bid to 35 million .I sincerely believe that Van Gaal is provoking the transfer. All these theories about the player on the bench all season, demotivated 1st of September but prepared for a new season three days later seem unrealistic, especially in an elite club. If Manchester sell for 35m€ they can say "we got rid of an unmotivated player and we have got some extra millions", meanwhile Florentino would get a very powerful option for people to forget the unpopular Iker exit
Are the reports of financial limitations true? No galactico signing this summer.
I don´t know, honestly I don´t understand very well the financial fair play.In the Sport article (a day after the 4-0) they say that we can not spend more than the benefits, 74m€ but the article doesn´t account players that could leave, besides why City can spend and we can´t?
I don´t know, honestly I don´t understand very well the financial fair play.In the Sport article (a day after the 4-0) they say that we can not spend more than the benefits, 74m€ but the article doesn´t account players that could leave, besides why City can spend and we can´t?
Agree -- not sure what the FFP represents now. From needing to break even to unlimited spending withing twelve months reeks of political vote buying on the part of Platini.
If LvG plays De Gea in CL play off, will DDG become cup-tied?
If yes, and if LvG plays him, I think the deal would be off instantly.
If yes, and if LvG plays him, I think the deal would be off instantly.
Kroos was on the last year of contract when he moved to Madrid and around DDG's age and Madrid paid 30M Euros, We paid you guys 22M pounds for RVP on the last year of his contract and a much older player. There are some offers that shows respect, and some are offensive. Man United paid 18.6M pounds for DDG when he was 21years old and he has improved since then to one of the best goalie in the world. Madrid opened the floor with 13M Euros, that is 9M pounds.
We have a good relationship with Madrid, you don't insult the people you have good relationship with. I won't be surprise if that 9M offer is the main reason we are at this junction because the offer is offensive. It's not like they don't have the money. Yes we know DDG wants the move, yes we know he's on the last year but jeeezzz be respectful. Am sure if they have started negotiations with the 18.6M pounds we paid for him, things would have moved beyond this.
Even if the pay 50M pounds for DDG, it's still a good business. DDG is a terrific keeper and still have 10years left in him.
Is DDG's girlfriend set on having him play/living in Madrid or could Barcelona be a possibility? Having another club in the battle to land would pressure Madrid into bidding a serious fee. Yes, barcelona has a problem with transfer until January, but United are interested in Pedro, Is it possible for another player to come United's way with Pedro and have DDG go to Barcelona? Or are they not allowed to trade players even if there is no money involved?
They can buy players freely but they can't register new players. They have two players in their books that were bought post transfer ban that can't start.
The way the whole situation has been handled by him has left a bitter taste in mouth and many others. So yeah I'm quite bitter and you will find it difficult to see me talk anything rationally in regards to him.
I think you are in the minority here. Majority of the fans feel otherwise.
No, he won't be. I don't think players become cup-tied in the play-off stages.
Not unrealistic at all. As soon as he accepts he's not going anywhere he's got no choice but to knuckle down and be the best he can be, with a view to preparing for the Euros. That could happen almost overnight. Why couldn't it?
Real Madrid: Stick around in that team for 1 season. We will give you 12M
Man Utd: Accept that deal and you will rot on bench all season.
Now now.. DDG needs to make up his mind sooon..
Man Utd: Accept that deal and you will rot on bench all season.
Now now.. DDG needs to make up his mind sooon..
The reported opening bid was shockingly low, far more so than I expected. I'd love to know how talks have gone since then
As far as our good relationship with Real, I doubt they even remotely care. If they want a player of ours then we know how that will end, regardless of our relationship. If we want a player from them then we likely won't get him, or are made to massively overpay like with Di Maria. I fear that eventually we will pay a sinful about of money for Bale after they've given-up on him enough to sell, and they'll probably make a profit on a player they themselves massively overpaid for in the first place. That's the relationship between the clubs.
From Real's perspective the relationship is ideal, and so one-sided I doubt Real have any fears about damaging it with stupid bids or tapping-up any player they fancy from us.
Has there ever actually been a case of a player being denied a transfer and then only left on the bench? I feel it gets thrown out far too often as a plausible option for something rarely (never?) happens.
Berbatov and Modric are the first two that spring to mind. Obviously, one of them got his move and the other didn't. Not that summer anyway.
Right, Berba got his move (just like DDG might). I meant was there a player who wanted out that was kept AND left 'to rot on the bench' like some are suggesting. Suarez, Schneiderlin, Modric are some recent notable names who were kept despite trying to leave and then played by their respective teams. There is no precedence for keeping a player just to stick him in the reserves. If DDG stays, he plays just like the rest.
Edit: though, this is van Gaal so all bets are off I suppose
Ok, yeah. Not playing him after the window closes would be madness. Not that it would happen, mind you. I fully expect him to get back in the team from 1st September onwards.
This is a really crap situation now. I say sell him, unless he signs a new contract.
People say that it's the club's fault for allowing the contract to run down, but how do we know we didn't try to sign him up to a new deal and he just put it off? Either way, I don't want him hanging about for a year thinking about Madrid.
People say that it's the club's fault for allowing the contract to run down, but how do we know we didn't try to sign him up to a new deal and he just put it off? Either way, I don't want him hanging about for a year thinking about Madrid.
Really thought he would have got his wish. Guess we've got to hope he is focussed. Doubt it will be a problem.
I doubt it and with good reason, it's petty and wouldn't send a very good message to potential future signings at all.
I'd also speculate it would be dodgy ground contractually. Intently excluding a player because they're unwilling to sign a new contract, wouldn't suprised me if a player could get released under such circumstances.
Apparently the club offered a new contract two years ago so it's not like we just realised his contract is running down. Some fans have a hard time grasping this thinking we're run by idiots.
Fernando Llorente? Wanted out in 2012, but Bilbao wouldn't sell him and he played a sub role that season.
Good shout though I suppose Bilbao is the outlier when it comes to transfers. They froze out Herrera for a bit after his initial move here didn't happen, right?
Definitely. There's just no way we let his contract run down without offering him a renewal.
I guess he used SAF leaving and Moyes coming in as an excuse to postpone any possible contract talks. We were confident enough that we would get it back on track and thus DDG would sign a new contract, so we didnt sell him. If the stories are true and DDG is already planning a move to Real for years now.. A well difficult situation for all involved.
Yep. Although some might prefer to believe that.
If we can believe the press we offered him a new contract on quite a few occasions over the course of last season but he held of on signing it. Somewhere around the time a contract negotiation last season was on the table it also came out that Real wanted him as their new number one.
Now Real try to pull a Lewandowksi on us, the bad news for them is we don't need to play de Gea which means they will get a GK that spent one season on the bench and was training with the reserves.
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