I have zero faith in this kid's character, hope we tell him to sign a contract or he's sitting on the bench for a year.
De Gea Contract Situation
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I have zero faith in this kid's character, hope we tell him to sign a contract or he's sitting on the bench for a year.
That's because we stuck to our stance of wanting Ramos or a record fee, neither of which Real agreed to. I didn't mind that stance initially because having De Gea for an entire season even if he left on a free the following year would have bee worth it. Then we started the season with Romero in goal and our stance made zero sense. And we ended up agreeing a fee which Real would have been happy to pay initially.
People will predictably respond with "why should we have bent down to the feckers?" but IMO getting our house in order as early as possible would have been more beneficial to us rather than fighting it out with Real.
I still think this will happen eventually. Both the clubs and the player will push this because it's in the best interests of everyone.
Tinfoil hat time buuuuuuuuut... has anyone considered that it's in Reals interest for this to go tits up now? They can get him for free next summer... maybe they 'misplaced' the paperwork for a half hour...
I agree, yes Real are to blame for yesterday, but our behaviour has not been blameless earlier in the transfer. Ballbag on Skysport says he thinks Real have done it on purpose so they don't have to pay us.
Have de gea sign a new 2y contract for 100k/week so he has his increased wage
Release clause of 20M
If not, sit over there next to valdes for a year, use your own suit, enjoy the same at the 2016 euros.
Everyone wins apart from real but it was their feck up.
Release clause of 20M
If not, sit over there next to valdes for a year, use your own suit, enjoy the same at the 2016 euros.
Everyone wins apart from real but it was their feck up.
No he's a sardine apparently
You wouldn't download a sardine.
I thought/assumed him being dropped was a bit of a battle of wills between a player who was putting pressure on the club to sell him and a manager who wanted to remind that player who was in charge. I think that dynamic has completely changed now. So basically yeah, I do agree with you.
Yeah, but what about their possible registration ban? If they can't sign any players before 2017 then de Gea have to sign a new contract with United. Then they are screwed.
Any decent manager would be sitting down with De Gea today and saying, "see dave, thats how much they really thought about you, couldnt even be bothered to put the paperwork in. Doesnt look like the fans want you either"
"Sign this, it will make you rich beyond measure, and you will be playing for a club and fans that actually want you here".
"Sign this, it will make you rich beyond measure, and you will be playing for a club and fans that actually want you here".
It's a bit strange alright.
I think there's been some kind of miscommunication. I can't fault Woody for trying to get the best fee nor can I fault LVG for not playing if he truly believed he wasn't in the right frame of mind. But this has not helped the club one bit.
Cant deny the logic of Pogue's response to that conspiracy theory. Tho my own reaction to it is: nothing would surprise me at this stage. Maybe there is an element to this we dont know that makes sense of it. Like, Real promised De Gea they would bid and didnt want to let him down. Or something.... I dont know.
I think that's the likely scenario tbh. I think there was some indecision about the transfer on their part all Summer. It seemed a relatively straight forwards transfer in the end and it still didn't go through. Not saying they have deliberately fecked it up but the deal was agreed yesterday afternoon what was the hold up?
That's been floated already but doesn't make sense. If they wanted to hold out for a free, why piss off Navas by dragging him into this fiasco?
Madrid were never willing to offer 40m euro. Early reports of an opening dialogue of 12m euro ffs.
From De Dea's perspective I can see Madrid being his only option but why should that be Uniteds? It's an open market, there are more clubs in the world than just Madrid. Why should we lower our expectations?
From De Dea's perspective I can see Madrid being his only option but why should that be Uniteds? It's an open market, there are more clubs in the world than just Madrid. Why should we lower our expectations?
It would surely have been in their best interest to just not put a bid in then? They've just ended up looking a bit silly, estranged their current No.1 keeper (who's also a fan favourite), and are just in the exact same situation they would have been had they not bid, getting De Gea for a free next season.
i'd say out of all the theories and speculation that has been thrown about, this is probably the closest to the truth.
Ballague's spin on that conspiracy theory is that the Madrid hierarchy got last-minute cold feet when they realised the Madrid fans weren't keen on the deal (that infamous 80% online poll). Which is, at least, vaguely plausible.
Of course, this also means that a great season from Navas might mean they stick with their fans keeper of choice. Which is excellent news from our perspective.
Would you want him to stay now, given he wanted out?
It's kinda like having a really hot girlfriend who dumps you for George Clooney only to come crawling back a day later after George was terrible in bed. Do you take the girl back?
I love conspiracy theories but this one is shit.
Forget Nevas. Why would they want to piss off DDG. He hasn't kicked a ball for us waiting for RM to make a move and they decide to scupper the deal.
I might have believed that of any other club but if there's club who couldn't give a rats fart about the fans it's Real. Ozil, Raul, Di Maria were all dumped unceremoniously despite the fans wishes.
Really? The initial fee was apparently 12m pounds, nowhere close to Navas + 29m being reported now. That's more than 3 times the initial amount.
So as not to piss off De Gea by not bringing him home this summer? Who knows what promises have been made.
Maybe they thought they'd get him for peanuts, were backed into corner by Utd looking for big bucks, aren't prepared to shell 30m on a player they can get for free next summer but don't want to be seen to go back on what they've promised him.
As I say, tinfoil hat stuff but it's all a bit odd.
If she was good in goal then sure.
Risky strategy. We're coming up on the Euros next year, and DDG will want to claim his place as #1 in the national team. If he wants that, he needs to be playing well, which in turn means he could do without the distraction of an impending transfer hanging over him. If he views Real as having let him down, it's entirely possible we'll be able to convince him to sign a new contract, even if it's just a short term one. So if Real were deliberately messing around there's a chance it'll backfire tremendously on them. No, I think this is just a combination of arrogance and incompetence.
Well. If the girl was Scarlett Johansson, maybe I will be more than happy
12m? Source?
And it's 29m pounds in total this time including Navas according to Ducker who's very reliable.
feck their fans. Arrogant cnuts booing the best player they've had since Di Stefano the minute he went on a mild drought. feck them. Absolutely disgusting club from top to bottom, fans included.
If DDG has any self respect he won't sign with that mob after this but we all know Mendes will spin in such a way that come next summer he will go running into their arms. He showed them too much of his hand and they have proceeded to humiliate him...This is the best summary I have heard and if you add Gary Cotterill's statement that La Liga say there was no "late" paperwork but NONE filed at all … that means DdG is still and will remain a united player AND that Real have screwed DdG royally if he was even planning what clobber his bird was going to wear at the unveiling …
EDIT: Just reheard it and he was asking his bird's stylist to design him a suit (even worse)
Why bother bidding for him in the first place then? No, I think they genuinely screwed it up. But long term it will benefit them.
Also, where is this registration ban talk coming from? Why would Madrid get that?
Why make an offer at all then? If they made no bid they could still get him for free next summer.
According to AS, Madrid has an informal agreement with De Gea that means they must pay him €5 million for failing to complete his transfer this summer. That's much cheaper than paying United what we asked for, plus Navas.
They should have tested the waters at the very least, just like we did when we bid for Ramos. Then, as soon as Ramos signed that extention, ball was firmly in their court, they were in the position to make us a reasonable offer, that offer never came until yesterday, i suspect that if same offer was made 2 weeks ago, we would have accepted it. In the meantime, we should have continued to play De Gea.
If the success of your career depends on precisely how hot your girlfriend is and you know there isn't a hotter girlfriend out there then definitely.
Of course, that answer would also depend on us not actually talking about girlfriends and talking about professional footballers instead.
They'd promised Dave and thought they could get him for peanuts....... maybe.
You just made that up.
As for pissing off Navas... well this is still the same club who fecked their legendary keeper out the door earlier this summer isn't it?
Well yeah but there's a world of difference between pissing off players on their way out the door and pissing off a player you're relying on to get you to the knock-out stages of the CL.
Given that RM cant sign anyone until 2017 i wonder if DDG will sign a contract with us or if he'll leave next summer and play for someone else
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