De Gea Contract Situation
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Thanks for sharing, I don´t see propaganda to be honest.He says that both clubs have tarnished their reputation. Segurola is a very good journalist, one of the best, I can´t imagine him putting his pants down like Pedrerol.
Err, no I don't think so, that's to top it up to the £36 million fee that we seem to have paid (not inc bonuses).
He's gonna be dynamite, worth every penny..
De Gea might reasonably conclude that he's been conned. Maybe he'll go somewhere else.
What have the Atletico fans been making of all this? I bet they're laughing their bollocks off!
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they are the true winners in all of this
Mostly tweeting Man Utd and Manchester stuff at Edurne.
There is no doubt that with this deal we have officially lost all rights to complain about any transfer fee that any club will ever pay.
When Marca are saying it's 50/50 you know that Real must have seriously ballsed up. I'm not expecting this chap to win a Peabody award any time soon, especially when he works for a paper with all the impartiality of Der Sturmer!
Madrid has probably more to blame but Navas contract was signed at 23:30. On the cover of tomorrow they say that now everything depends on De Gea since Madrid don´t want to negotiate with United. If they take that position, after so many transfer sagas, then maybe United did also something wrong? . Don´t judge Segurola for working in Marca, probably they signed him to appear in the photo. Before he worked in Ser and now collaborates with Onda Cero, with Sid Lowe or Ballagué.
30m euros initially, and 5m euros each summer for the next four years for a total of 50m euros, that's the base price.Wait.. hang on.. how much did United cough up for Martial?
There are three clauses. One, is 5m euros each time he wins the Premier League leading goalscorer, up to a max of 15m euros. Two, is 5m euros, if he wins the Golden Boy. Three, 10m euros if he wins the Ballon d'Or. A total of 30m in clauses.
So, 80m overall, if he become some absolute worldie.
Why would he sign a new contract? I can't see any rational explanation for this.
He was pushing for the move 1 year. If he's under a longer contract we may as well not sell him. Even if we put a release clause why would Real pay it? If he's to leave next year why couldn't he be sold in January or leave for free next year.
I understand if del Bosque quote would pressure him to sign a contract but it's not like Spain have much options, Valdes is past it and probably won't play as well, Iker was crap last year and doubt he'll make the spot regardless of playing the whole year. Who else will they put? Asenjo, Kiko?
He was pushing for the move 1 year. If he's under a longer contract we may as well not sell him. Even if we put a release clause why would Real pay it? If he's to leave next year why couldn't he be sold in January or leave for free next year.
I understand if del Bosque quote would pressure him to sign a contract but it's not like Spain have much options, Valdes is past it and probably won't play as well, Iker was crap last year and doubt he'll make the spot regardless of playing the whole year. Who else will they put? Asenjo, Kiko?
It's a well-known fact of human psychology that you hate the person you wronged more than the person who wronged you.
Going forward the interesting question to me is what does De Gea think about how Real Madrid handled this. He may not be happy with them. Sure they can offer him a lot of money to play for them next season, but so can United.
Ok, so a total of €50m then.
I don't get the 5m each summer though, is that a very common clause? How does it work? If you sell him before his contract is up you don't have to pay it? Anyway, just realised that's for another thread.
Not sure how the James deal was structured, but I remember figures of £63m being mentioned. Martial's fee is for a guaranteed £36m.
Ok, so a total of €50m then.
I don't get the 5m each summer though, is that a very common clause? How does it work? If you sell him before his contract is up you don't have to pay it? Anyway, just realised that's for another thread.
We have to pay it, it's just easier this way because of cash issues.
No, even if we sold him next year, we'd have to finish of the payments to make 50m.Ok, so a total of €50m then.
I don't get the 5m each summer though, is that a very common clause? How does it work? If you sell him before his contract is up you don't have to pay it? Anyway, just realised that's for another thread.
Most transfers are organised like that, it's very rare, barring activating release clauses, that players are paid for in lump sums.
Take yourselves, when you bought Bale off Spurs, you hadn't even paid for Modric yet. Apparently, not even *started* paying for him.
Ok, didn't know this, cheers.
Hopefully De Gea decides to stay and signs a new contract.
Navas feels like he was being forced out, gets disillusioned at Madrid and demands a transfer.
Madrid play Pepe in goal.
Navas feels like he was being forced out, gets disillusioned at Madrid and demands a transfer.
Madrid play Pepe in goal.
This is very informative. Madrid's story about waiting on United for TMS simply doesn't add up.
I like this theory, but what does Kiko Casilla do? Decent keeper too, tbf.
youre a waste of this thread's time objecting points I never even raised, to the point I previously didn't bother spoonfeeding you
Thinks it's all a giant farce and goes to play with Atletico.
Perfect!
How anyone can blame us after listening to that is beyond me.
the Sun have given a damn good go
Poor Edurne is getting a lot of abuse on Twitter.......
Shame, it was her dream move..
Shame, it was her dream move..
It's not even about incompetence or tardiness. It's the fact that Real chose to move for a player they clearly already wanted and could easily afford, on the last day of a 2-month long transfer window. Even taking into account resolving the Ramos issue, Real had easily 2-3 weeks left to act. Once you leave things to the last minute, nothing is guaranteed because shit happens. And shit happened.
I dont think De Gea has the balls to go against Mendes and Edurne and sign a new contract.
We must have different editions of the same paperPoor Edurne is getting a lot of abuse on Twitter.......
Shame, it was her dream move..
Good read from the reliable Diego Torres at El Pais
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-UK
What does he say in short?
he won't be taking penaltys then !
As someone mentioned, De Gae has to sign. If he gets a career ending injury the money dries up. Risk management.
Based on this I think he'll sign an extension.
Based on this I think he'll sign an extension.
They call Van Gaal "The iron tulip" for a reason... If he really has one of his Machiavelli-days he will invite DeGea to his office and blackmail him: If you sign a new contract (with an exit clause for the next summer) you will be immediately my number one again. Which means that you will be also Spain's number one at France 2016. Which means you will arrive at Madrid next season as a player... who has actually played football. And if Madrid lost interest you are still United's number one."
(Not totally serious about that one, but what I wanted to say: The longer you look at the whole picture the more you see that DeGea is in a weak position.)
(Not totally serious about that one, but what I wanted to say: The longer you look at the whole picture the more you see that DeGea is in a weak position.)
Very interesting, thanks a lot.
I, as a United fan, will obviously want my club to be in the right, but what he says just really confirms it. I don't see how we did anything wrong here.
I have no trouble believing Madrid about the fact that United weren't willing to negotiate until the final day of the window. But the reason for that is obviously that we didn't receive the offer we wanted until then.
Also, it's funny how they've been caught in a lie with the TMS story
Why didn't Madrid appeal just to get United to show what they did?
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