Dele Alli is England's best young midfielder playing in Turkey

[Righteous Steps]

His passing is far off the likes of Gerrard Scholes Lampard, especially their mid range longer range passes which Alli simply doesn’t have in his locker.

He’s a good passer but by far his best attributes are his movement overall tactic al intelligence and of course his goal scoring, for me though he does lack a bit of gold dust in that technically he can come across pretty bland.

 

[Righteous Steps]

I don’t even get the comparison honestly given the difference in their age. I hate to say it but it’s like they get compared because they are both English and from a black background. They have been compared for a couple of seasons now.

The comparison is that both their best qualities are their movement and the way they attack space, tactically they can come across pretty similar.

 

[11101]

His passing is far off the likes of Gerrard Scholes Lampard, especially their mid range longer range passes which Alli simply doesn’t have in his locker.

He’s a good passer but by far his best attributes are his movement overall tactic al intelligence and of course his goal scoring, for me though he does lack a bit of gold dust in that technically he can come across pretty bland.

This for me. He's a great player because of his movement and knowing where to be and what to do. He's an excellent cog to have in a machine but he lacks the spark to do the incredible that those three had.

 

[predator]

He is absolutely incredible. I personally think he is one of the most gracious players to play the game. I'd love to have him at United

 

[balaks]

This for me. He's a great player because of his movement and knowing where to be and what to do. He's an excellent cog to have in a machine but he lacks the spark to do the incredible that those three had.

I disagree - he has a bit of magic about him. He does have that spark.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

for me though he does lack a bit of gold dust in that technically he can come across pretty bland.

This for me. He's a great player because of his movement and knowing where to be and what to do. He's an excellent cog to have in a machine but he lacks the spark to do the incredible that those three had.

Can't find that one that he scored against Chelsea from Dier's pass, which is probably his best.

 

[Righteous Steps]

Can't find that one that he scored against Chelsea from Dier's pass, which is probably his best.

Talking about all round play really, he certainly has some moments like you posted. All round though he’s not a patch on Scholes and the likes, the difference is they could score goals like the ones you posted of Alli while also put the ball on a two pence from 70 yards out, and in Gerard’s case simply power through the midfield, I think Alli is more ‘reserved’ in comparison.

 

[breakout67]

Is this supposed to be some sort of achievement? The lad isn't even a genuine midfielder, at least by most teams standards. But he's physical and can score so England will be all over that. A good player, but he's not running any top team, he's not got the qualities for that.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Talking about all round play really, he certainly has some moments like you posted. All round though he’s not a patch on Scholes and the likes, the difference is they could score goals like the ones you posted of Alli while also put the ball on a two pence from 70 yards out, and in Gerard’s case simply power through the midfield, I think Alli is more ‘reserved’ in comparison.

The comparisons to Scholes and Gerrard are pointless I agree. We have a lack of adjectives for player positions in England which is what causes debates like this. The German position 'raumdeuter' describes Alli to a tee.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

I don’t even get the comparison honestly given the difference in their age. I hate to say it but it’s like they get compared because they are both English and from a black background. They have been compared for a couple of seasons now.

I feel like people forget Lingard's age, last season he was still being called a young talent.

Maybe it's because he has a bit of a baby face.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

A true Trequartista

 

[giorno]

Talking about all round play really, he certainly has some moments like you posted. All round though he’s not a patch on Scholes and the likes, the difference is they could score goals like the ones you posted of Alli while also put the ball on a two pence from 70 yards out, and in Gerard’s case simply power through the midfield, I think Alli is more ‘reserved’ in comparison.

Did Gerrard and Lampard have his vision and final ball? He's definitely more of a real #10 than either of them i agree, but to say he's not a patch on them....were they even this good at his age?

 

[Buchan]

Apart from being a snide gobshite on the field, what does this guy even do?

He’s gash.

 

[balaks]

Apart from being a snide gobshite on the field, what does this guy even do?

He’s gash.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Apart from being a snide gobshite on the field, what does this guy even do?

He’s gash.

He's a good finisher and he gets a good amount of goals every season.

He can be very anonymous at times, but he might pop up with a goal.

That's all for Spurs, he's routinely terrible for England.

 

[Buchan]

Okay, since I’ve bumped the thread, he’s actually come into the game a lot more, winning back possession 4-5 times in the last five minutes (Pochettino tweaked the tactics a bit) but my point still stands: the game passes him by far too often. He’s not even as productive in terms of goals now as he was in seasons past. If he was put up for sale in morning, which top clubs would be after him? I can’t think of too many.

 

[Loublaze]

I feel like people forget Lingard's age, last season he was still being called a young talent.

Maybe it's because he has a bit of a baby face.

Could also be because he's a late bloomer

 

[giorno]

If he was put up for sale in morning, which top clubs would be after him? I can’t think of too many.

Please tell me you're joking

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Apart from being a snide gobshite on the field, what does this guy even do?

He’s gash.

Just wow, have you even been watching him this season? He's mostly been excellent. His statistical return for a player of his age is also incredible.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Okay, since I’ve bumped the thread, he’s actually come into the game a lot more, winning back possession 4-5 times in the last five minutes (Pochettino tweaked the tactics a bit) but my point still stands: the game passes him by far too often. He’s not even as productive in terms of goals now as he was in seasons past. If he was put up for sale in morning, which top clubs would be after him? I can’t think of too many.

You're talking nonsense based on one game where most of our team has been below par. Most games this season have not passed him by, he's been very involved and one of our most important players, his production has gone down because he's actually playing deeper this season and getting more involved in the play. The game just before this one in the cup (vs Arsenal) he played through Son beautifully and scored an exquisite goal. He is 22 years old and last season managed 9 goals and 10 assists, the season before getting 18 goals (!!) and 7 assists. That is absolutely extraordinary for a player in his age range playing in the Premier League.

Top clubs would be swarming around him, he's very good. He's not perfect and still has the odd frustrating game, but that is absolutely expected for a player of his age.

 

[AltiUn]

Apart from being a snide gobshite on the field, what does this guy even do?

He’s gash.

He's only 22, has years of top flight experience, very solid goal scoring record - I bet clubs would be queuing up to sign him. He's done well this season, looks like he's kicking on compared to last year when I thought he'd stalled a bit.

 

[Fiskey]

Apart from being a snide gobshite on the field, what does this guy even do?

He’s gash.

He's an absolute Gem, anyone would love to have him. Has that dirty winning streak great players and great teams need.

 

[parkthebuslads]

Reminds me of Lampard. Great numbers but never seems to play well when I'm watching.

 

[Scroto Baggins]

Okay, since I’ve bumped the thread, he’s actually come into the game a lot more, winning back possession 4-5 times in the last five minutes (Pochettino tweaked the tactics a bit) but my point still stands: the game passes him by far too often. He’s not even as productive in terms of goals now as he was in seasons past. If he was put up for sale in morning, which top clubs would be after him? I can’t think of too many.

This argument is made of all young players. Alli is what, 22? For his age his overall play and versatility of role is amazing. And he will only get better, which in itself is a scary thought if you look at his stats. 121 PL matches, 41 goals 30 assists, pretty good for 22.

I remember the same argument for his team mate Eriksen at 22-23. People critical that he could fade in and out of games, and he lacked consistency. Now at 26 he is on RM radar and it will be a megabucks deal around the 100mil mark if it goes through.

 

[Don Alfredo]

This argument is made of all young players. Alli is what, 22? For his age his overall play and versatility of role is amazing. And he will only get better, which in itself is a scary thought if you look at his stats. 121 PL matches, 41 goals 30 assists, pretty good for 22.

I remember the same argument for his team mate Eriksen at 22-23. People critical that he could fade in and out of games, and he lacked consistency. Now at 26 he is on RM radar and it will be a megabucks deal around the 100mil mark if it goes through.

100m for a player with 1 year left on his contract? I don‘t think so

 

[Wonder Pigeon]

Reminds me of Lampard. Great numbers but never seems to play well when I'm watching.

Worth pointing out that at Alli's age Lampard hadn't even signed for Chelsea yet.

 

[Canagel]

Apart from being a snide gobshite on the field, what does this guy even do?

He’s gash.

He's just another T Muller. Very underwhelming to watch but comes alive in the box.

 

[Scroto Baggins]

100m for a player with 1 year left on his contract? I don‘t think so

It's RM they are nororious for bending over to Levy demands. What did Levy fleece out of them for Bale? 90mil?

But tbf I have no idea about his contract duration I just pulled the figure off a news article headline. If Eriksen is on the move we should at least be interested.

 

[RochaRoja]

Did Gerrard and Lampard have his vision and final ball? He's definitely more of a real #10 than either of them i agree, but to say he's not a patch on them....were they even this good at his age?

No, they weren’t.

Lampard especially only really pushed on in his second season at Chelsea aged 24.

 

[Gasolin]

He may be good, but we have one of the best midfielder in the world in Paul and he's an United guy through and through. I hope that this time we show them who is the boss because they seem to have forgotten.

 

[Halds]

No, they weren’t.

Lampard especially only really pushed on in his second season at Chelsea aged 24.

Dele is an excellent young player, but Gerrard was though. It was obvious he was a very special talent. When he was 20 years old he played 50 matches and scored 10 goals in 00/01. He captained Liverpool from when he was 23.

 

[bosnian_red]

I've always felt he just lacks that bit extra to ever be a key player for the biggest and best teams. Very good player, but he plays primarily in a position where you really want someone who can give you that extra bit and be the main man. He just doesnt have it IMO. Like hes good, but hes kind of Spurs level for that position. The biggest teams wouldn't spunk out the money and make him their key #10 basically. From Spurs I'd say there are 3 players that any club in the world would love; kane, Eriksen and Vertonghen. Alli isnt in their class, but is one of those who just suits their team well but I dont think hed look as good without them.

 

[Adisa]

Hes excellent in front of goal. Apart from that, he reminds me of Thomas Muller. You can't really say why he's a great player but he is one.

 

[pocco]

Hes excellent in front of goal. Apart from that, he reminds me of Thomas Muller. You can't really say why he's a great player but he is one.

Was/is Muller really considered a great player? He had a couple of seasons where everybody raved about him, including on here, then he seemed to fall off a cliff. I remember a lot of posters going absolutely crazy for us to sign him under LVG and I couldn't really see the fuss. People wanted us to spend £100m on him

 

[Ish]

I've never quite "rated" him as highly as he's rated by many on here, though I think he's a very good young player. But then again, I was also never really the biggest admirer of Thomas Muller either. And they're both clearly talented (Muller was arguably world class at some stage).

Guess a little bit is probably down to personal preference, or maybe trying to evaluate players on traits/positions that's not really their strength/best.

 

[Adisa]

Was/is Muller really considered a great player? He had a couple of seasons where everybody raved about him, including on here, then he seemed to fall off a cliff. I remember a lot of posters going absolutely crazy for us to sign him under LVG and I couldn't really see the fuss. People wanted us to spend £100m on him

Between 2011 and 2015 he certainly was. Not the most easy on the eye but was delivering top class performances.

 

[LoveFootball]

He's no better than Lingard. Put Lingard in a team with no expectations like Tottenham, playing week in week out, in such an advanced position, and he'll provide the same stats like Alli.

He has good movements in the box and an eye for goals, which help masking his average qualities as a footballer. Like Lukaku, his flaws will be exposed at a big club where he'd be asked to do a lot more. Spend big money on this guy would be a mistake.

 

[Cédric Sophie]

For me he is overrated

 

[RochaRoja]

He's no better than Lingard. Put Lingard in a team with no expectations like Tottenham, playing week in week out, in such an advanced position, and he'll provide the same stats like Alli.

He has good movements in the box and an eye for goals, which help masking his average qualities as a footballer. Like Lukaku, his flaws will be exposed at a big club where he'd be asked to do a lot more. Spend big money on this guy would be a mistake.

He’s miles ahead of Lingard.

There’s a reason why he was playing first team football in the Premier League at the age of 19 and Lingard was on loan in the lower leagues until he was halfway through his 23rd year.

 

[youmeletsfly]

He's better than Lingz, but he's no wonder.