Dynamo Kiev v Man Utd

Playing with only 2 strikers for several games will damage us, as we can't count on Saha at all anymore.
 
I'd fancy us playing Ronnie and Nani in this match to give us real pace upfront. If we use the wings to offer the pace and have a solid middle we should be ok.

I'd play with Scholes and Fletcher in the middle, (as long as Flecth is match fit). With Tevez and Rooney in form and Ronaldo having a rest we should be running riot.
 
WesBrownIsaGod said:
VDS
Brown_ Pique_ Ferdinand_ Evra
Scholes
Anderson___Giggs
Ronaldo ________________Tevez
Rooney​

Bench_
Kuzszack_
O'Shea_
Nani_
Hargreaves_
Fletcher_
Saha_
Simpson_
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Yep - quite possibly got the team right there, but most definitely the formation ! Not sure he'll start Anderson though (even though he's been doing well, this is a game for a bit of experience in the middle). I fancy Fletcher or O'Shea will start ahead of him...
 
IhabX7 said:
I've learned over the years that no away game in the champions league is easy.
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Colly said:
Yep - quite possibly got the team right there, but most definitely the formation ! Not sure he'll start Anderson though (even though he's been doing well, this is a game for a bit of experience in the middle). I fancy Fletcher or O'Shea will start ahead of him...
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Anderson will start, If Fergie put him against villa there is no question the lad will play on kiev
 
It would be very dangerous to underestimate this team. I am quietly confident but as I said, they have to be alert to th danger, if we go out and attack from the start we'll win. Im going for 2-0 (Rooney, Giggs)
 
Vidic poised for Red Devils recall

Nemanja Vidic is set for a Manchester United recall as the Red Devils look to maintain their 100% Champions League record away to Dynamo Kiev.

The tough-tackling Serbia international missed Saturday's win at Aston Villa after suffering concussion against Wigan prior to the international break but has returned to Sir Alex Ferguson's squad and is expected to replace Gerard Pique in the Ukraine on Tuesday night.

Cristiano Ronaldo will play after sitting out the four-goal rout at Villa Park, with fellow countryman Nani most likely to stand down.
 
Great news on Vidic.

We're still waiting on Owen and Gary.

C'mon Nev & Hargreaves...
 
3-0, Giggs, Rooney, Tevez.
 
----------------------- Van Der Sar --------------------
Brown ---- Ferdinand ---------------- Vidic ------- Evra
Ronaldo ---- Scholes ---------------- Fletcher ---- Giggs
------------ Rooney ----------------- Tevez -----------

Subs: Kuszczak, Simpson, Pique, O`Shea, Eagles, Nani, Anderson

Out: Foster, Neville, Silvestre, Evans, Hargreaves, Carrick, Park, Saha
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
----------------------- Van Der Sar --------------------
Brown ---- Ferdinand ---------------- Vidic ------- Evra
Ronaldo ---- Scholes ---------------- Fletcher ---- Giggs
------------ Rooney ----------------- Tevez -----------

Subs: Kuszczak, Simpson, Pique, O`Shea, Eagles, Nani, Anderson

Out: Foster, Neville, Silvestre, Evans, Hargreaves, Carrick, Park, Saha
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REd FUn DevIl said:
Anderson will start, If Fergie put him against villa there is no question the lad will play on kiev
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You'll see ;)
 
Sir Alex's tactical dilemma

Sir Alex Ferguson is pondering whether to stick with the burgeoning strike partnership of Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tevez or go with a three-man central midfield in Kyiv on Tuesday night.

In plummeting temperatures in the Ukrainian capital, the United boss oversaw training at the Olympic Stadium, in which he was buoyed by the sight of a fit Nemanja Vidic taking part in the full training session.

But he has a selection dilemma further up the field. Rooney, who scored twice against Aston Villa at the weekend, proved his partnership with Tevez is starting to click.

Sir Alex has already stated that he believes Dynamo Kyiv – yet to pick up any points in Group F so far – have no option but to attack the Reds. The decision now is how best to counter Dynamo's approach; whether to meet the Ukrainians with the Tevez-Rooney axis that is performing so well domestically, or revert to the lone striker with three central midfielders used against Sporting Lisbon.

“In Tevez and Rooney we have too exceptionally good footballers,” the manager said at his pre-match press conference in Kyiv. “They are both such strong players and a real threat to defenders.

“It makes them a real consideration for tomorrow, their form is good enough,” he added. “There is the tactical part to consider.

“I would have liked to have had Michael Carrick and Owen Hargreaves here. They are ideal European players. We don’t have either of them, but we have good options. There’s Paul Scholes, Anderson, Darren Fletcher and John O’Shea.

“We may go with three players in the middle, as we did in Lisbon. That is certainly a possibility. Whatever we do, the ntention will be to try and win the match because the rewards are great for us.

“It’s an important game for Kyiv. They will be wanting to win the match and I expect them to have a go. We see it as an opportunity for us because Roma and Sporting Lisbon have a double header against each other.

"From our point of view you would hope they take points off each other. If we can win our games against Dynamo Kyiv then it puts us in a strong position [to win the group].

“The best thing to do is to try and approach the game trying to win it. And that is exactly what we will be doing.”
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I think it would be silly if we field a lone striker. Particularly with Tevez in good form and the partnership between Rooney and Tevez starting to click. Rooney is no lone striker, he may have played well there a few times (Milan last season) but more often than not, he gets isolated up there when on his own.
 
Yes i wouldn't mind a 3 man midfiled away in europe once,flecther or o'shea shall give good protection for scholes and anderson to be a little more adventurous.
 
marcus agrippa said:
Fletcher, Anderson and Scholesy in the middle.
Fletcher for his harrying, energy and ball-winning ability as well as better technique should get the nod ahead of O'Shea, whom i absolutely dread seeing in central midfield.
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Its fecking Dynamo so Anderson and Scholes to handle the middle

Its gonna be an easy game for us

They would want to attack us as they have no points and they are home

Our counter attack is deadly
 
REd FUn DevIl said:
Its fecking Dynamo so Anderson and Scholes to handle the middle

Its gonna be an easy game for us

They would want to attack us as they have no points and they are home

Our counter attack is deadly
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famous last words.

although i fancy us to beat them tomorrow, they will be up for it. these European sides keep possession better than your average Prem side; we need someone to win it back. Fletcher's better at it than either Anderson or Scholes.
 
I follow the Ukrainian league all the time, and Dynamo is not strong at all this season. The only way I can see us not winning this fixture is if they put in a superhuman effort, kind of like Reading did in the opening fixture.
Contrary to what was said about keeping the ball - they can't keep the ball at all. I say we should win this comfortably.
 
KGBhoy said:
I follow the Ukrainian league all the time, and Dynamo is not strong at all this season. The only way I can see us not winning this fixture is if they put in a superhuman effort, kind of like Reading did in the opening fixture.Contrary to what was said about keeping the ball - they can't keep the ball at all. I say we should win this comfortably.
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Beware of game raising cnuts... :nono:
 
The thing i'm most worried about this game is either Rooney or Tevez sustaining an injury. They've been playing without a break for ages now and are the only strikers we have. Therefore, much as I hate to suggest it, we should probably leave one of them on the bench.
 
Red-Indian said:
The thing i'm most worried about this game is either Rooney or Tevez sustaining an injury. They've been playing without a break for ages now and are the only strikers we have. Therefore, much as I hate to suggest it, we should probably leave one of them on the bench.
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We cant, we have no more choices at the moment...
Saha isnt fit and we have no more strikers, thats a good reason to get someone on january or put Dong to see if he makes a miracle turn around to his game
 
Bape said:
I think it would be silly if we field a lone striker. Particularly with Tevez in good form and the partnership between Rooney and Tevez starting to click. Rooney is no lone striker, he may have played well there a few times (Milan last season) but more often than not, he gets isolated up there when on his own.
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We could always play with Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo up front. With Evra playing almost like a left winger, Tevez wouldn't need to play so wide.

--------------VDS
Brown-----Rio---Vidic/Pique---Evra
--------Fletcher----Scholes-----|
-------------Anderson-----------V
---Ronaldo------------Tevez
--------------Rooney

It's always an option, although I'd prefer it if we went with a 4-4-2.
 
If he wants to play counter attacking football then I cannot see him leaving giggs out.
 
I want to see Rooney and Tevez playing together.

This Fletcher Scholes and Anderson mid doens't sound such a bad idea either!
 
Edwin

Wes--Rio--Vidic--Evra

Ronaldo--Anderson--Scholes--Giggs

Tevez--Rooney

There you go. I'm more concerned about our ability to acclaimatise the conditions in Kiev. If we can do that, we will win.
 
REd FUn DevIl said:
We cant, we have no more choices at the moment...
Saha isnt fit and we have no more strikers, thats a good reason to get someone on january or put Dong to see if he makes a miracle turn around to his game
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Yes we can... we've done it before. Just play the dreaded 4-3-3. One of Rooney or Tevez with Ronaldo and Giggs in support.

I wasn't even thinking of Saha. I don't normally include him in my thoughts about our strikers. If he's available for any game, its a big bonus.

With just 2 strikers, i believe it would be a mistake to play both of them in a game on a not so great pitch, extreme cold weather in a do-or-die game for the opposition
 
--------------VDS
Brown-----Rio---Vidic/Pique---Evra
--------Fletcher----OShea-------
-------------Scholes-----------
---Ronaldo------------Tevez
--------------Rooney


Important in the ECL to get into the mindset of not conceding - should still have more than enough on the pitch to create chances. Worst comes to worst we'll have Giggs, Anderson and Nani on the bench....
 
does no one think Nani will play he has started both champs league games so far and if we play on the counter his pace will be a big threat
 
Ol Rooney travelling to Russia twice in a week. Its a mad ol world being a footballer. I know... I'll be travelling from Woolston to Birchwood in a single night to play twice later :smirk:

I predict a 1-1 tonight (in Russia, not Birchwood - ours will be 9-8 with me bagging 4 in a fine box-to-same-box performance)
 
All the best for the game. Won't be able to watch it live, but will watch it as soon as I get off work.
 
If we play it tight and hit them on the break we should be fine with our current defensive solidarity and a fesh ronnie,rooney,tevez and hopefully nani counter attacking could be fun to watch.
 
......................VDS.................
Brown...Ferdinand...Vidic...Evra
Ronaldo..Scholes..Anderson..Giggs
............Rooney..Tevez..............


Kuszczak, O'Shea, Pique, Fletcher, Nani, Simpson, Eagles?

0-1 United. Wayne Rooney.
 
We should be careful with our 2 strikers.

4-5-1 would not be so bad idea. Just for safety.
 
Be a typical away performance in europe sit and soak for a while wind up the pace go 1-0 up then make it two when they are pressing for the equaliser
VDS
Wes
Rio
Vidic
Evra
Ronaldo
Fletch
Scholes
Giggs
Ronney
Tevez
Subs PIG.Sheasy,Anderson,Piquet,Nani

Scorers Rooney and Ronny
 
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