You guys are saying it like he can't pick up the phone wherever he is and conduct transfer business.
Ed Woodward | Post season 2017 edition
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This 100%.
The huge amount of waste we've seen over recent years demonstrates why we need a DoF.
First, he will have a team working on the deals. Second, he can be reached (for updates, approvals etc.) any time in today's world. No big deal at all as long as his team knows what to do
Maybe he wants to bring Ryan Nelson out of retirement as Jones back up?
Good idea, unfortunately we have mr short term managing us right now, expect another 2 seasons MAX. Long term managers are a dying breed, DOF's are the way forward.
Looking at PSG, Bayern, Barca, City, Chelsea, Dortmund really all but Arsenal really are short term managerial appointments. So if Jose leaves us in 2 years one thing you can guarantee is he'll leave United as a squad/team far stronger than he found them.
I'd imagine Ed is more keen than anyone to have someone a bit more blockbuster than Lindelof for the tour. United market the bejesus out of "chance to see our new signing for the very first time ".
Would expect at least one in the door this week.
Would expect at least one in the door this week.
Ed Woodward is on holiday.
What the hell is this guy doing? He has all year for that shit, and does it now when United need him to be working. No wonder we're under performing since this clown took power. Jose Mourinho must be very pissed off at him.
What the hell is this guy doing? He has all year for that shit, and does it now when United need him to be working. No wonder we're under performing since this clown took power. Jose Mourinho must be very pissed off at him.
He could as well be working while on holidays, you know.
Where did you hear that?
Morata
If he's actually on holiday (not sure if it's been confirmed) then that's a good sign in my opinion.
The guy is hardly going to be laying by the pool with his feet up if there's still tons of work to be done to obtain Mourinho's targets.
Is this just a baseless rant?
The whole transfer market is locked at the moment, I don't blame Ed for slow progress.
Real don't know if Ronaldo will really leave, so they don't know who they need to sell or buy and don't know if they need to chuck the kitchen sink at Monaco to get Mbappe. Monaco don't seem to want to sell too many more til they know what's happening with Mbappe. Half the clubs in Europe have Monaco players on their wishlist and don't want to go for their Plan B til they know for sure they can't get whatever Monaco players they're after, so the whole thing is deadlocked.
If Ronaldo comes back and agrees to stay, Morata and James will move, Real will decide for sure if they want to sell Benzema & go for Mbappe or wait another year. Monaco will know who they can sell & who they can keep, all those clubs waiting on Monaco will know where they stand one way or another, and if they can't get their first choice, they'll start picking up their alternative choices.
I expect a lot of movement in the market will happen at once, late on in the transfer window. But I don't really see how that can be avoided tbh.
Real don't know if Ronaldo will really leave, so they don't know who they need to sell or buy and don't know if they need to chuck the kitchen sink at Monaco to get Mbappe. Monaco don't seem to want to sell too many more til they know what's happening with Mbappe. Half the clubs in Europe have Monaco players on their wishlist and don't want to go for their Plan B til they know for sure they can't get whatever Monaco players they're after, so the whole thing is deadlocked.
If Ronaldo comes back and agrees to stay, Morata and James will move, Real will decide for sure if they want to sell Benzema & go for Mbappe or wait another year. Monaco will know who they can sell & who they can keep, all those clubs waiting on Monaco will know where they stand one way or another, and if they can't get their first choice, they'll start picking up their alternative choices.
I expect a lot of movement in the market will happen at once, late on in the transfer window. But I don't really see how that can be avoided tbh.
Good post.
The price of players now even we can't just pay top dollar for players, 4 x 50m players wouldn't even be that brilliant in terms of personnel.
So waiting for 10m off x or y is a necessity.
Why would a DoF be more successful at acquiring players? Any manager/coach is going to want a certain type of player, so if we continue chopping and changing managers, then we'll still end up with lots of square pegs.
There's these things call smart phones...
Never liked Ed, I think he is totally out of his depth at utd and would suit a smaller side. Bring back David gill
I see loads of people say this but can you please explain why Gill was so good?
Under Gill we missed out on the likes of Hazard (over an agent fee), Ozil, Benzema and Sneijder, usually due to us being unwilling to pay the fees. We also made some terrible purchases due to the club's (and his) unwillingness to spend as much as the likes of Real, Barca, City etc. - like Young, Zaha, Anderson etc. etc.
Gill seems to be looked back on very fondly but it was SAF who carried us through that time with his ability to make great teams and win trophies with small budgets and some very average footballers, as well as our over-reliance on ageing players like Giggs and Scholes.
Can you explain exactly what elements of his job performance are below par and why, and what exactly Gill did better?
I don't think he's been great as CEO tbh, but the work he did on revenue generation was unprecedented in football. He nearly tripled our commercial revenue in 7 years. I think he's at the right club, just in the wrong role.
Gill was a big hitter for sure. A right wanker, but a powerful CEO. Losing him and Fergie in the same year was a huge blow for us.
Locked in the literal sense, as in not open, or locked due to prices and uncertainties about some players? The former is definitely not true.
Nevermind the small detail that Gill decided to resign from the post himself and now works in a completely different place.
The guy is much better than David Gill. This is the guy who paid 8m for Bebe
Like I said in another thread, can't help but get the feeling of concern at the moment in regards to this Summers activity (or lack of). It's a strange situation in that there isn't much going on, but that isn't an excuse for us to sit back on our heels. Simple fact is, our team needs major work and its not looking likely to be resolved this Summer if things stay as they are, and that is worrying.
I think if it gets to this point next week and we are no further on then there is definitely a problem somewhere.
I think if it gets to this point next week and we are no further on then there is definitely a problem somewhere.
For me a great CEO or anyone in charge of or involved with transfer negotiations needs footballing iq, sense of how much a player is worth even outside of a manager's input. This is where Ed falls short imo.
How do you know? How do you quantify 'footballing iq'?
Ed may be a connoisseur of football as everyone on the caf thinks we are.
I dont understand this criticism at all, in the context of general frustration at the lack of business being done. Unless your point is unrelated to that - in which case fair enough, but can you elaborate a bit on what you mean?
It seems to me that if deals are being held up because Woodward is trying to negotiate a lower price for players, to get a better deal for the club, that suggests he does understand what a player is worth. If he did what some people on here call for, which is pay what it takes to get deals done quickly, so we can have all our business wrapped up nice and early, weeks before pre-season even starts, thereby paying, say, £10m or £20m more, would that be a better understanding of player valuations?
People are frustrated we havent had more developments yet - me included. But while "who cares, its not our money" has become a bit of a mantra, and people talking about players not being worth x is often ridiculed, that logic cannot be applied to Woodward. It is, in a sense, his money, or at least he is responsible for managing it properly. If he thinks the fees being touted for certain players are unrealistic or do not represent value it is right that he tries to haggle it down, or pulls the plug and looks for deals elsewhere. Sure, if we end up with the season starting and no deals have been done that will be a problem. At one point he might have to overpay. But we havent reached that point yet.
So Ill reserve judgement on this transfer window, and Woodward generally, for now. It does seem he is on a steep learning curve at the moment, he has gone from cluelessness under Moyes, to laughable trigger-happiness under Van Gaal (remember that youtube video of him buying bars of chocolate and insisting on paying millions of pounds for them?) to now, apparently, trying to find a sensible middle ground. I think that's a healthy and positive development, I hope he gets it right because it will be better for the club in the long term if other clubs know they cant just add a 25% "Man United Tax" on top of valuations when dealing with us.
He is pal. There's pictures of him in New Zealand. Clearly holidays are more important than signings
I think he's done a good job.
Do you happen to know what he's doing or if he's sightseeing all day long?
Ed? Yeah I believe he does too. Plus he is a united fan. His dad apparently watched the 68 final
Ed, yes. Feel like I'm missing something though as some posters are having mini meltdowns all over.
Ĺocked tighter than RAWK after a loss...
Im willing to wait and see how we do over the whole summer, and will form my opinion when the window closes. Everyone is in the same boat at the moment with very little movement happening. Last 2 windows have been very good (incomings last summer,outgoings in January) so its early days yet. There was a stage last summer where all looked lost and it turned out pretty well in the end. Greizmann deciding to stay at Atletico/Zlatans injury obviously threw a massive spanner in the works so instead of having the creative side sorted and not needing another top goalscorer the whole outlook changed. 
(I still think we will buy Greizmann in January).
It has been very frustrating so far though, but we still have signed Lindelof so that's a start. We can't sign everyone so its inevitable that our rivals will end up signing top quality players as well.
(I still think we will buy Greizmann in January).It has been very frustrating so far though, but we still have signed Lindelof so that's a start. We can't sign everyone so its inevitable that our rivals will end up signing top quality players as well.
Do you honestly think holidays are more important than doing a good job for the Ceo of MUFC?! Or do you just crave signings so bad that you make stuff up? I'm sure the man can still work.
meh, there was a melt down last year too then he signed
Bailly (who everyone loves)
Mhiki (arguably Dortmunds best player)
Pogba (worlds most expensive footballer)
and Zlatan (legend)
so have another cocktail Ed, I have every faith he will get the job done
Bailly (who everyone loves)
Mhiki (arguably Dortmunds best player)
Pogba (worlds most expensive footballer)
and Zlatan (legend)
so have another cocktail Ed, I have every faith he will get the job done
Probably a corporate jolly relating to the Lions Tour. It won't be a holiday.
Where are the source that Ed is on vacation? It sounds like baseless speculation.
Ed can never be in a winning situation in here. If we are linked to a bunch of players it's embarrassing and unprofessional as there are leaks. When there are no leaks he ain't doing his job etc.
Some of the criticism towards Woodward is embarrassing. We have already bought one player. How many players have Real Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs bought? It's not like the clubs mentioned above is finished in the transfer market this summer. It's a very good sign that we are running a silent ship now. It means we are working on our transfers without the press all over it and the added pressure of that.
Most of the criticism of Woodward is highly unrational. Supporters complain when transfer fees are high, if the club uses time to negotiatie getting a lower price it takes to much time.
It's fair giving our CEO legimate criticism, but coming to the conclusion he is bad at his job no one of us have any empirical evidence for. If he was a bad CEO, that hurt the business of the Glazers he would be removed from the position instantly.
What about having some patience and see where we end up this summer? Going by last summers activity I reckon we are going to be pleased and strengthened come the end of august.
Ed can never be in a winning situation in here. If we are linked to a bunch of players it's embarrassing and unprofessional as there are leaks. When there are no leaks he ain't doing his job etc.
Some of the criticism towards Woodward is embarrassing. We have already bought one player. How many players have Real Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs bought? It's not like the clubs mentioned above is finished in the transfer market this summer. It's a very good sign that we are running a silent ship now. It means we are working on our transfers without the press all over it and the added pressure of that.
Most of the criticism of Woodward is highly unrational. Supporters complain when transfer fees are high, if the club uses time to negotiatie getting a lower price it takes to much time.
It's fair giving our CEO legimate criticism, but coming to the conclusion he is bad at his job no one of us have any empirical evidence for. If he was a bad CEO, that hurt the business of the Glazers he would be removed from the position instantly.
What about having some patience and see where we end up this summer? Going by last summers activity I reckon we are going to be pleased and strengthened come the end of august.
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