What is our fall back transfer thread to invade if we dont sign this cnut?
Eden Hazard | "I am signing for Chelsea"
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The Sneijder thread 
Do we have a Sneijder thread this year?
This one will blow Sneijder's out of the water if things carry on the way they have been.
We'll make a Sneijder thread for this year.
Inter aren't in the CL anymore so it'll be easier to sign him this time. And he's less of a media whore than Hazard.
Inter aren't in the CL anymore so it'll be easier to sign him this time. And he's less of a media whore than Hazard.
I can't believe it's nearly a year since the Sneijder thread - where has time gone?! 
He would be pretty cheap now I reckon. I am glad we didn't get him though. Yes we didn't win anything but we've got to be thinking long term, and Sneijder isn't long term.
He would be pretty cheap now I reckon. I am glad we didn't get him though. Yes we didn't win anything but we've got to be thinking long term, and Sneijder isn't long term.
Yes there was one
https://www.redcafe.net/f9/wesley-sneijder-caf-muppet-brigade-say-hell-no-353690/
but it died on its arse due to a lack of muppet interest.
The Sneijder thread was probably the birth of the twitter spaculation. I remember everyone looking for any old shit about the deal. Where Nike going to get involved, was He at Carrington? Then City were supposed to try and steal him, then he had the car park interview. It was a golden time, golden.
Nope, that was the Ozil thread.
The Ozil thread started my twitter account. I remember him saying "believe" and i sadly did
Those where the days! Does anyone remember the Rio saga? I was at my dad's place those weeks, with no internet, and relied on tele text to get the latest news! Which was exactly the same I did with the Ronaldinho circus.
Can anyone remember any other epic sagas?
Edit: Hargreaves was another.. we had that going for more than a year I believe!
Which was exactly the same I did with the Ronaldinho circus. Can anyone remember any other epic sagas?
Edit: Hargreaves was another.. we had that going for more than a year I believe!
The Ozil thread started my twitter account. I remember him saying "believe" and i sadly did
Indeed, the Ozil thread had far reaching influence, there were rumours that it gave birth to Obama's and Geri Halliwell's twitter accounts too.
Those where the days! Does anyone remember the Rio saga? I was at my dad's place those weeks, with no internet, and relied on tele text to get the latest news!
Can anyone remember any other epic sagas?
When Bobby died but it was only a dream.
Ozil is the reason I signed up to the Caf'. You can all thank him.
Anyone hearing Monday Night Club?
£32m for Hazard, to United.
£32m for Hazard, to United.
Is that from McGarry?
Very good analysis.
That nasri story is true. Andy mitten did an article on it, and he's very well connected.
Nah, Colin Murray said it's someone in the newsroom, links to Reuters or something like that.
He got a tip off about Ole being linked to Villa a week before the interview happened.
The fecking Internet has got a lot to answer for!
Colin Murray.
Ian McGarry just gave a pretty good argument for him possibly joining Chelsea. They said they would build the team around him. De Bruyne and Courtois also possibly joining up aswell and they also met his agent three times in the last eight months.
Either way, I'm just looking forward to him joining the Premier League. If he comes to us, then brilliant. If not, I hope we look to the likes of Goetze and Rodriguez instead cos they are the only other possibly gettable talents who are on his level. Hazard would be the unmitigated first choice though. He just screams a United number 7 in the mould of Best and Ronaldo. Arrogant bastard, but he would be OUR arrogant bastard.
The internet is fine, it's the twats with computers that are the issue.
That's a good point.
People, its always the people.
Gir2, where have you been!!!!!!!
Okay lads.. I have made the decision to become a full blown (ho hum) transfer muppet this season!
.... So have we signed him yet or what?
.... So have we signed him yet or what?
Doesn't work like that.
In Ireland, when there is a live game on 5Live switch to this montage of clips due to broadcast restrictions. One of the clips is McGarry basically staking his rep on Drogba leaving Chelsea, in 2009. I love that they still play it.
Not yet, but its on, its fecking on like donkey kong
Show me the way, gambit!
Show him the door gambit.
Not the article I was looking for but it's quite interesting:
The Daily Telegraph this week reported that Manchester United had done a deal to sign Benfica’s Argentine international winger Nicolas Gaitan. On the same day, James Ducker of The Times described the Gaitan deal as a non-starter, repeating for emphasis that he is NOT going to United.
The Telegraph and The Times are the two best-selling broadsheet newspapers in Britain; both journalists are well respected, but one must be wrong.
Football transfers are surrounded by rumour and deception, fanned by newspaper circulation wars and an insatiable desire for exciting news from fans. Think of the impact of a headline that United are to sign Lionel Messi tomorrow?
Clubs like to control their media, but they are hardly going break a transfer story ahead of it happening and so newspapers and their well connected journalists run the show.
Fans are rightly cynical about speculation and trust some sources over others, though fans often pretend to be more in the know that they actually are and would pass off information the biggest chancer of a journalist wouldn’t credit.
Conversely, some fans are brave enough to ignore it all until the player is on the Old Trafford pitch with a United scarf around his neck. It can be a long summer of false hopes and wasted emotional energy otherwise.
Websites like Goal.com and IM scouting are not viewed as credible. Their journalists, which include inexperienced interns, are not seen at games, dinners or with the decision makers. Crucial is the journalist’s relationship with key people – but even this isn’t reliable. Bob Cass of The Daily Mail has long been close to Sir Alex Ferguson, but I saw Ferguson tell Cass to “feck off” in Washington last July because Cass’s newspaper had printed comments which Ferguson considered to be off the record.
United, chiefly David Gill and Sir Alex Ferguson, leak almost no information. In the 1980s and early 90s, Ferguson and his chairman Martin Edwards were partial to tipping off the press, or, in the words of Edwards “helping out those who were good to the club.”
That doesn’t happen now and Ferguson and Gill are gleeful when they unveil a signing and trump the (non-club) media. Just two journalists have Gill’s mobile number, while Ferguson had a triumphant tone when he told the media, post Glazer takeover, that they now got nothing from them. It was a them and us mentality.
Yet despite all the modern forms of communication, the camera phones spotting Gill at Manchester Airport and the websites with incidental pieces of information, surprises happen. Nobody knew that United were signing Anderson, Nani, Javier Hernandez or Bebe until the club announced it. United negotiated on the condition of secrecy and in the case of Hernandez, whose own grandfather did not even know that he’d gone to Manchester, the reward was a lucrative friendly game against his former club Chivas.
United jealously guard information because it can cost millions and mean losing a player if rivals butt in. Phil Jones was considering a move to Liverpool when United got wind and made a move. Ashley Young also had a straight choice between the two.
United signed Bebe because they got wind that Real Madrid were about to make an offer. That all sounds laughable now, but some mischievous scamp played up interest between the clubs and the result was a €9 million flop who was never good enough to play top level.
Proud friends and family can let slip details inadvertently (that’s how I found out about Jones on Twitter and within minutes three national journalists had called). As can agents, players and even the tightlipped Gill and Ferguson. An agent might offer his player to United to be told, “No thanks, we’ve already identified someone in that position.” That scrap of information can be fitted into a jigsaw by a canny journalist.
Ferguson is not adverse to bending the truth, either. He was adamant that Juan Sebastian Veron was not for sale, yet at the same time an agent had been instructed to sell him and the Argentine promptly left for Chelsea.
Potential future signings excite fans most. United’s scouts watch hundreds of players each season – and that’s just for first team level. I’ve seen Martin Ferguson at countless games around Europe. He doesn’t go in disguise, but then nor does he publicise his every move. Why should he? He might go to watch one player – let’s say Thiago Alcantara of Barcelona – but then spot another who is a more realistic signing.
The scouts will have regular meetings with the boss and Gill and by this time of the year United will have worked down to a short list of around a dozen players – with the knowledge that three or four might be signed. But its not always in United’s hands. Karim Benzema was at the top of that short list in 2009 and United were prepared to pay top money – but Madrid were determined to blow anyone out of the water. Alexis Sanchez was close to being a done deal last summer – Sanchez had even told United officials that he was a fan - until Barca offered €10 million more and he decided that he’d rather play for Barça. Similar happened with Samir Nasri before he joined City.
Journalists can be bang on the money or well wide of the mark. It depends on their sources. Some are guided by agents, but what an agent wants to happen and what actually transpires can be completely different. So Paul Pogba’s agent might want him to sign for Juventus because he stands to make a healthy cut, but Ferguson wants him to stay at United. Until nothing is signed, it’s not a deal. I spoke to Blackburn defender Scott Dann last month. He was about to move from Birmingham to Arsenal last season. He’d even played in a specially arranged trial game by Arsenal. Financial terms had been agreed. Then Arsene Wenger changed his mind.
Deals can break down for many reasons – hence the high number of transfer stories which turn out to be erroneous. Money, injury, change of personnel or mind. They all happen. Or a manager may be going for two players in the hope that one comes off.
One thing’s certain. When someone tells you that a transfer is a “done deal” months before it’s supposed to happen then it’s not. So who are Manchester United definitely signing this summer?
There’s not a single person who can answer that, not even Sir Alex Ferguson.
The Daily Telegraph this week reported that Manchester United had done a deal to sign Benfica’s Argentine international winger Nicolas Gaitan. On the same day, James Ducker of The Times described the Gaitan deal as a non-starter, repeating for emphasis that he is NOT going to United.
The Telegraph and The Times are the two best-selling broadsheet newspapers in Britain; both journalists are well respected, but one must be wrong.
Football transfers are surrounded by rumour and deception, fanned by newspaper circulation wars and an insatiable desire for exciting news from fans. Think of the impact of a headline that United are to sign Lionel Messi tomorrow?
Clubs like to control their media, but they are hardly going break a transfer story ahead of it happening and so newspapers and their well connected journalists run the show.
Fans are rightly cynical about speculation and trust some sources over others, though fans often pretend to be more in the know that they actually are and would pass off information the biggest chancer of a journalist wouldn’t credit.
Conversely, some fans are brave enough to ignore it all until the player is on the Old Trafford pitch with a United scarf around his neck. It can be a long summer of false hopes and wasted emotional energy otherwise.
Websites like Goal.com and IM scouting are not viewed as credible. Their journalists, which include inexperienced interns, are not seen at games, dinners or with the decision makers. Crucial is the journalist’s relationship with key people – but even this isn’t reliable. Bob Cass of The Daily Mail has long been close to Sir Alex Ferguson, but I saw Ferguson tell Cass to “feck off” in Washington last July because Cass’s newspaper had printed comments which Ferguson considered to be off the record.
United, chiefly David Gill and Sir Alex Ferguson, leak almost no information. In the 1980s and early 90s, Ferguson and his chairman Martin Edwards were partial to tipping off the press, or, in the words of Edwards “helping out those who were good to the club.”
That doesn’t happen now and Ferguson and Gill are gleeful when they unveil a signing and trump the (non-club) media. Just two journalists have Gill’s mobile number, while Ferguson had a triumphant tone when he told the media, post Glazer takeover, that they now got nothing from them. It was a them and us mentality.
Yet despite all the modern forms of communication, the camera phones spotting Gill at Manchester Airport and the websites with incidental pieces of information, surprises happen. Nobody knew that United were signing Anderson, Nani, Javier Hernandez or Bebe until the club announced it. United negotiated on the condition of secrecy and in the case of Hernandez, whose own grandfather did not even know that he’d gone to Manchester, the reward was a lucrative friendly game against his former club Chivas.
United jealously guard information because it can cost millions and mean losing a player if rivals butt in. Phil Jones was considering a move to Liverpool when United got wind and made a move. Ashley Young also had a straight choice between the two.
United signed Bebe because they got wind that Real Madrid were about to make an offer. That all sounds laughable now, but some mischievous scamp played up interest between the clubs and the result was a €9 million flop who was never good enough to play top level.
Proud friends and family can let slip details inadvertently (that’s how I found out about Jones on Twitter and within minutes three national journalists had called). As can agents, players and even the tightlipped Gill and Ferguson. An agent might offer his player to United to be told, “No thanks, we’ve already identified someone in that position.” That scrap of information can be fitted into a jigsaw by a canny journalist.
Ferguson is not adverse to bending the truth, either. He was adamant that Juan Sebastian Veron was not for sale, yet at the same time an agent had been instructed to sell him and the Argentine promptly left for Chelsea.
Potential future signings excite fans most. United’s scouts watch hundreds of players each season – and that’s just for first team level. I’ve seen Martin Ferguson at countless games around Europe. He doesn’t go in disguise, but then nor does he publicise his every move. Why should he? He might go to watch one player – let’s say Thiago Alcantara of Barcelona – but then spot another who is a more realistic signing.
The scouts will have regular meetings with the boss and Gill and by this time of the year United will have worked down to a short list of around a dozen players – with the knowledge that three or four might be signed. But its not always in United’s hands. Karim Benzema was at the top of that short list in 2009 and United were prepared to pay top money – but Madrid were determined to blow anyone out of the water. Alexis Sanchez was close to being a done deal last summer – Sanchez had even told United officials that he was a fan - until Barca offered €10 million more and he decided that he’d rather play for Barça. Similar happened with Samir Nasri before he joined City.
Journalists can be bang on the money or well wide of the mark. It depends on their sources. Some are guided by agents, but what an agent wants to happen and what actually transpires can be completely different. So Paul Pogba’s agent might want him to sign for Juventus because he stands to make a healthy cut, but Ferguson wants him to stay at United. Until nothing is signed, it’s not a deal. I spoke to Blackburn defender Scott Dann last month. He was about to move from Birmingham to Arsenal last season. He’d even played in a specially arranged trial game by Arsenal. Financial terms had been agreed. Then Arsene Wenger changed his mind.
Deals can break down for many reasons – hence the high number of transfer stories which turn out to be erroneous. Money, injury, change of personnel or mind. They all happen. Or a manager may be going for two players in the hope that one comes off.
One thing’s certain. When someone tells you that a transfer is a “done deal” months before it’s supposed to happen then it’s not. So who are Manchester United definitely signing this summer?
There’s not a single person who can answer that, not even Sir Alex Ferguson.
Where did my Kermit post go?
Seeing the Muppet gif and the on like donkey kong bit made me excited. Bastards.
You wouldn't mind him going to our rivals just so you can see him in the PL? That's odd because you can watch him pretty much wherever he goes.
Make no mistake this kid is the real deal and has potential to be one of the best players in the world. City or Chelsea getting him would be terrible news. Not sure why anyone would take it positively.
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