Emmanuel Macron

JPRouve said:
You disagree with the fact that France only serves the interests of France? It's factual, not debatable and applies to every countries.
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Well, French high-level politicians only serve their own interests and there are so many examples to illustrate.

Think about how Alstom has been privatised or our energy policy (change of the electricty mix for more expensive and polluting businesses) that does not make sense at all levels.

However, countries like the USA and China know how to preserve their own interests.
 
Ecstatic said:
Well, French high-level politicians only serve their own interests and there are so many examples to illustrate.

Think about how Alstom has been privatised or our energy policy (change of the electricty mix for more expensive and polluting businesses) that does not make sense at all levels.

However, countries like the USA and China know how to preserve their own interests.
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So you are 100% disagreeing with yourself or didn't read the post you quoted.
 
JPRouve said:
Definitely, the last sentence of the post you disagreed with concerns the answer that you gave me, "or the interests of the people in charge."
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Sorry, I had understood something like "the people they're charged with the responsibility of administrating"
 
Ecstatic said:
Sorry, I had understood something like "the people they're charged with the responsibility of administrating"
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The people in charge means the people in control which in most democracies means high level politicians and high level civil servants.
 
Raven said:
Feck Macron, hope that hurt like a bitch (although it was a shit slap so probably not). He's a truly vile character and for me really embodies modern centrism.
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Something tells me you don’t like centrists.
 
esmufc07 said:
Something tells me you don’t like centrists.
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Let's not be rash now. He might dislike centrists and he might not. Whatever your conclusion is, I think it's best if we don't rock the boat too much.
 
esmufc07 said:
Something tells me you don’t like centrists.
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Interestingly people are happy to make that type of remark about a particular side as if high profile politicians in general aren't vile characters. Macron is obnoxious but it's not different to the average french politician, we have far worse too and they are not centrists.
 
JPRouve said:
Interestingly people are happy to make that type of remark about a particular side as if high profile politicians in general aren't vile characters. Macron is obnoxious but it's not different to the average french politician, we have far worse too and they are not centrists.
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Macron is okay, I think. Sure he doesn’t get good press amongst certain sections, but things could be far worse (looking at Darmanin and Le Pen, of course). Or could be better (looking at Philippe)
 
coolredwine said:
Macron is okay, I think. Sure he doesn’t get good press amongst certain sections, but things could be far worse (looking at Darmanin and Le Pen, of course). Or could be better (looking at Philippe)
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Philippe de Villiers you mean I hope, not the other crook :wenger:
 
coolredwine said:
Macron is okay, I think. Sure he doesn’t get good press amongst certain sections, but things could be far worse (looking at Darmanin and Le Pen, of course). Or could be better (looking at Philippe)
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He is okay but I don't like him, so he is obnoxious. :angel:

And yes, it could be worse. All of Darmanin, Le Pen, Mélenchon or Hidalgo are worse and have been worse for a longer time than Macron. In fact Macron has poor press because he isn't one of the perennial crook, it is the PS and LR mouthpieces that are still salty about their humiliating loses.
 
JPRouve said:
He is okay but I don't like him, so he is obnoxious. :angel:

And yes, it could be worse. All of Darmanin, Le Pen, Mélenchon or Hidalgo are worse and have been worse for a longer time than Macron. In fact Macron has poor press because he isn't one of the perennial crook, it is the PS and LR mouthpieces that are still salty about their humiliating loses.
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What about Zemmour trying to out-facho Le Pen.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
What about Zemmour trying to out-facho Le Pen.
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He isn't a politician yet, despite far right politiicans trying to put him against Le Pen because she isn't xenophobic and incompetent enough.
 
JPRouve said:
He isn't a politician yet, despite far right politiicans trying to put him against Le Pen because she isn't xenophobic and incompetent enough.
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Zemmour said he might consider the opportunity to apply for the presidential election.
 
JPRouve said:
Until he does he isn't a politician which is why I said, yet.
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Gosh, you really like to have the final word and get the last word.

By the way, there are several ways of defining the term politician.
 
esmufc07 said:
Something tells me you don’t like centrists.
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Oops, is it that obvious? :nervous:

On a serious note though, I think centrism is generally a mask worn by some pretty nasty and overtly right wing people to convey some air of sensibility over their dirty dealings. I have no problem with pragmatism and compromise and believe it's necessary for progress but I do have a problem with this false image that is forced upon us that these are sensible people in tough positions because these are actually nasty, dangerous people in powerful positions.

The only reason we seem to put up with these cretins is because "it could be worse". Why is that enough? Why can't we demand more of the people who represent us?

Islamophobia is an epidemic in the West at the moment with some truly shocking things being said and done about and to Muslim people. Macron is at the absolute forefront of this, he's clearly emboldenening the far right and is allowing for a heavy shift to the right in terms of political discourse.

Sorry for the rant but people like Macron, Blair, Obama, Cameron, Bojo, etc, really grind my gears. They all love to play into these culture wars, whether it be benefit thieves, Muslims, black people, yoofs or whoever else rather than come up with, let alone implement any progressive policy and just the right amount of people gobble it right up.
 
Such a limp wristed slap, very French. Hilarious nonetheless.

Macrons no Prescott.
 
Well done to Macron for pushing people to get vaxxed, only good thing he's ever done imo. Get vaxxed or you can't go anywhere, excellent.
 
The Corinthian said:
Emmanuel Macron takes legal action over Hitler poster comparison
Police speak with wealthy billboard operator who depicted French president as Nazi leader

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-legal-action-over-hitler-poster-comparison

Deeply insecure fella is Macron. Looks like freedom of speech is out the window when he’s the target.
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He's entitled to a libel lawsuit. A lot people mistake freedom of speech with freedom of any consequence of that speech. It's seems like the billboard owner is a bit butthurt that religious blasphemy is not illegal in France and that Charlie Hebdo got off so easy by having the majority of their staff murdered.
 
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