I know the feeling.
EU Referendum Results Thread | Leave have won, Cameron resigns
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Vile, loathsome bint.
My mums telling me some cracking stories of Leave voters thinking that's it's all a giant fix, and people demanding pens... one leave voter came to there just to tell them she refused to vote because she knew the result was fixed already 
im confused why would them been blamed make them vote out?
From an objective perspective perhaps, but i'll be even more jaded and cynical than i already was. And when i think back to my ballot paper from last year's GE, it would now require the introduction of a new party for me to vote in 2020. I've never liked Osborne, and Cameron's been pissing me off sine the Autumn of 2010. While i voted Green in 2015, their manifesto was terribly amateurish (i don't trust Caroline Lucas and she could be leader).
and on that clusterfeck I think I need my bed!I asked for a pen too!My mums telling me some cracking stories of Leave voters thinking that's it's all a giant fix, and people demanding pens... one leave voter came to there just to tell them she refused to vote because she knew the result was fixed already
At least you had the choice to vote for them. I was inclined to vote that way (but actually had decided against it precisely because of their manifesto) but then found out they weren't fielding a candidate here anyway.
As I hate politics the EU referendum is the only political thread I will comment on - unless BringBackNani starts an Animal Farm conspiracy thread
They're not his party - not sure if he's ever voted Tory? Greens at the last election maybe? @Nick 0208 Ldn
Only if you believe that a vote to Leave is akin to simply closing the door to all EU immigration. I'm not sure where you've got that impression tbh as it's not been any policy discussed.
You're basically saying it's hypocritical because they came during a time of no controls they shouldn't want any controls?
How do the people who count the votes get that job? Do they get paid?
I'd like to do it next time during an election. Anyone know?
I'd like to do it next time during an election. Anyone know?
Boo! I like you. Your views are interesting (when they're not making me rant... actually even then).
Think they just volunteer. Someone I went to school with is doing it (and was at polling station all day). Will ask her if you don't get a response.
The only thing I really trust in this world is Betfair. Currently 1.1 to remain, 9.6 to leave.
He did vote Green! As @Silva put it once 'probably so he had a wacky story tell down the pub'. In a perfect world he'd have a Tory party that actually cared about the things he does, though.
I personally think the high turnout is bad news for Remain
Yeah, but you have to bring your own eraser.
A rule of thumb is that beneath 65% is probably better for Leave, between 65-80% is probably better for Remain, and above 80% is probably better for Leave.
that must make life tricky...... has this milk gone off?...... let me check with bet fair......
Oh i'd still talk about causes, just not in the context of a Westminster party that i could in all good conscience support. I've never been one of those tribal type of voters, where you could pin a rosette to a bottle of Volvic and that would answer the purpose.
I suppose if it looked like Osborne was going to the new Tory leader, i might engage in some entryism. But merely to derail that reptile's ambitions.
Thanks! If you can remember, pls ask her and also let me know!
Is there a logic to this one?
Depends who you know I think. My friends in laws are involved in this sort of stuff so she got asked if she wanted to do it. £80 for the night too Ithink she said
I'd have thought the opposite honestly, the leave lot have been waiting for this and I thought they would all be out anyway, and that a high turnout means the remain lot decided that this was really important.
I also don't know shit so who knows.
Phil Jupitus knows his stuff doesn't he.
Yep, good money as well so i'm told.
Lots of fake blond milf presenters on Sky
Tom Watson nodding off at the sound of IDS pretending to care about low income voters. Correct response imo.
You don't think a leave vote will pave the way for even tighter immigration laws? I think it's almost a guarantee... and when things go wrong, and they may well, the immigrants who are already here will probably be the first to be blamed.
Quite a lot of them work for the council and volunteer as overtime. I know this because my wife's son does it.
Higher younger turnout better for Remain in general, and higher working class turnout (in terms of the more unlikely voters) probably better for Leave.
So according to YouGov 7% of UKIP voters voted remain... How does that work?
Well, *feck you, I got mine* is a common human baviour pattern. Many immigrants fear to be among the first to lose their recently acquired amount of humble wealth. Thus, they vote accordingly.
It's not different in other countries. The AfD, Germanys UKIP counterpart finds one of their most avid supportergroups among the russian immigrants, who we let in in 100.000s after wall came down.
Egoism is a strong driver and comes, more often than not, in company with shortsight.
Makes sense. Thanks.
This guy on the BBC with his graphics is really enthusiastic over no information at all.
I think it's basically impossible to say who it favours. In General Elections you can get a 'shy Tory' factor, but that effect could go either way here. On the one hand, there may be a lot of people who haven't been vocal in their support for Remain but are happy with the status quo. But on the other, there could be a left-wing Brexit vote that feels embarrassed to be associated with certain elements of that campaign such as UKIP and immigration. It'll be very interesting to see which way it goes.
YouGov poll party breakdown