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Euro Qualifiers - Matchday 7 & 8
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The problem is the over reliance on Sporting´s academy. And our academy main asset is winger and midfielder "production". Porto and Benfica prefer to bet on argentinians, brazilians and colombians. Benfica has changed the approach since they built the Seixal academy but besides Bernardo Silva, i´m not seeing much quality coming from there. Perhaps it will change in the future because of the heavy investment they have been doing. Porto prefers to invest on fund related "products" (they have all the legitimacy to make that choice), so i doubt we will see anyone coming from there. Ruben Neves the supposed next big thing barely features now.
Well some FAs in the past,used national teams from ex Yugoslavia for preparation before big final events,in all of them they said,how they picked X national team because they have similar mentality,coming from same football "school",playing in similar way and they give decent representation what they should expect in those games.
Ancelotti transformed him, he saw something in him and asked him to work on his technique and he did.
God watching those highlights Neuer should've really have done better for those of those goals.
Bernardo Silva is an incredible talent, I'm a complete fan.
It was heartbreaking because I knew we were going to lose, I fully expected that we were going to lose, I was prepared for a loss since we got that point in Denmark but not like this for fecks sake. It's exasperating and sad at the same time. As the game went on and on and they missed a couple chances I thought fate might be on our side but no, same fecking story over and over. It's injury time and instead of playing the ball in a row z Cana kicks it out and they get a fecking corner and then no one jumps for the corner. Why oh why is it the same over and over and over. They beat us 2-1 with a last minute goal last time too. Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!
I'm going to be there for Serbia. One way or another we need to grind a win out of that game but I don't know how considering we cannot fecking score. We can defend for 90 minutes but we still cannot score!!!!!
Good job we have a month to prepare because I doubt any of those on that pitch tonight would have neen able to pick themselves up for another game in a few days!
We need to seal it against Serbia otherwise we don't deserve to qualify!
Wouldn't blame them. Serbia in the past has shown good performances and fight. Only in the last 5 years or so you've been quite bad and didn't bother that much.
I have seen the same trend when it comes to basketball. Despite having arguably the best players from any European countries, you've been very bad for more than a decade, and NBA players for some reasons aren't even called.
Lack of finances or what is happening?
The country has more than 10 million people. Can't just pinpoint three clubs and saying that your club is producing midfielders and the others aren't doing anything. There's a whole lot more to it than that.
Were you shocked to find out that France are hosts?
No there isn´t. Besides the 3 big clubs (in portuguese talent terms just Sporting), the other clubs don´t produce anything noteworthy. The big clubs usually "steal" the top talents from the other teams and concentrate all the talent. If you take a look at the youth national team call ups, it´s 95% big club call ups, with the occasional Braga or Guimarães call up. We just have to admit our incompetence in what concerns "producing" strikers. Not even Pauleta and his football school has changed that so far.
Yep. We have one of the poorest attacks in Europe.
I hope De Biassi changes something. Gashi in the middle with Lenjani in the left and Roshi in the right will be my favorite. I also hope that Ajeti doesn't get picked anymore. The ultimate hoofer. By far the worst passer of the ball I have ever seen. Would have loved to see him playing for LVG
We probably don't even need to win another game. Say we draw our last 2 games, we'll finish on 19 points.
Hungary need to win their last 2 games to end on 19 points. We have a GD advantage of 4 , & also better head - to - head.
A win for Hungary tonight would've totally thrown it up in the air.
So there is something serious wrong with your national youth setup.
Only 9 out of 23 in your U21 team are from those 3 teams.
In your current squad about half of them grew up in other teams until at least 16-17 years old.
You just figured that out now?
Eh what? Just because they aren´t in the 3 big clubs doesn´t mean they weren´t produced in their respective academies. What current squad are you talking about? And what players?
The squad for this international break. I don't want to click through all the names again but there were about 10-11 players that were never at any of those three clubs or arrived there after the age of 16-17.You just figured that out now?
Eh what? Just because they aren´t in the 3 big clubs doesn´t mean they weren´t produced in their respective academies. What current squad are you talking about? And what players?
Why do u think he won't stay in the team?
Benzema at least has some pace to threaten and he turns up in big games, I agree on Giroud.
Ever since before the world cup I believed this French team has the potential to win a major trophy, it looks like Deschamps may be getting it all together.
A 24 team euro is just too much IMO. For example, Netherlands should be out by now. I think we're going to get some pretty one sided games in the tournament proper.
Oh when i read your current setup, i thought you were talking about Sporting since i don´t really think of Portugal in those terms. We are missing some players but from the starting eleven and the subs most of them are from the top clubs. Rui Patrício (Sporting), Vieirinha (Porto), Ricardo Carvalho (Porto), Eliseu (came from the Azores), Danilo (Benfica), Miguel Veloso (Sporting), Bernardo Silva (Benfica), Ronaldo (Sporting), Nani (Sporting), Danny (Marítimo), Cedric (Sporting), Quaresma (Sporting) and Éder (Académica). I don´t know where you got your info from.
Deschamps loves Sissokho and Cabaye, I don't think that two good games will change his mind. But you never know Deschamps is also a good coach.
You'd be surprised, the so called weaker nations are getting stronger.
That is true. I guess I shouldn't judge before the tournament takes place. However, I just hate the fact where qualification seems relatively easy. I think it takes away from qualifying for the tournament - not as much of an achievement.
Let's wait and see, I like Cabaye but I feel Schneiderlin provides more solidity. I haven't watched enough of both to make a stronger comparison, Sissoko I've even seen less. I hope Deschamps makes the right decision.
It's wikipedia. The squad is 23 players. Of the ones you named you already mentioned Eliseu, Eder and Danny + Vierinha joined Porto at 16, Nani joined Sporting at 17, Carvalho joined Porto at 17 and Danilo joined Benfica at 17.
I was of this opinion before but witnessing some of the smaller sides cause so much trouble to big guns I am convinced it was good decision now. European football has really grown in quality among teams who were previously complete underdogs, even the likes of Faroe Islands who have a population of 50k are doing all right in qualifying and teams who were usually among the worst are now on the verge of qualification. We are in for a very good tournament next Summer IMO.
Well they are counted as coming from their respective academies and playing for youth rank teams. Nani although he came as a junior, admits the influence of our academy coaches as primordial for his evolution. But i do get your point. Even if they joined just as juniors, usually our FA and the media, counts them as coming from big clubs academies.
Northern Ireland have a good chance of being the best third placed team, if things go pear shaped. Hope not though and they just win their next game.
Hopefully we get as many home nations qualified. That's why I love the new format.
Hopefully we get as many home nations qualified. That's why I love the new format.
A professional football who's a striker has probably played striker his whole career. My point is that even though the majority of these players join up with the big 3 clubs, at a younger they're position will probably be established in most cases if you're a forward, CB or GK. Point is, it isn't just the fault of the big 3 clubs that Portugal isn't producing any strikers. The problem is deeper.
Strange problem as there are plenty of attacking players. Who's scoring all the goals at youth level? I'd imagine kids would want to emulate Ronaldo regarding that.
@Snow Just realized that you said that Portugal barely had a good striker in 30 Years, but Pauleta counts for 10 strikers, he was amazing.
No one wants to be a striker here i suppose. Part of the reason is the inability from youth rank coaches to teach that specific position. Another reason is the fact that the big clubs usually buy and prefer to use foreign strikers due to that inability. Because of that kids choose other positions. The kids try to emulate the biggest portuguese idols and besides Eusébio, there isn´t a portuguese striker reference for the kids to follow and try to emulate. Even the youth ranks now are filled with youth foreign strikers. It sure is a problem and this has been debated and clubs have tried to tackle that with Néné, Pauleta, Fernando Gomes (all former glories) trying to specifically teach that position, but the fact is we still don´t have a decent striker.
Only against Azerbaijan or Poland. Against top national teams he was dreadful. He never replicated club form. One of the culprits along with Scolari for our Euro2004 failure.
Blasphemy! Pauleta is a legend. But you are right he was poor with the national team.
Well funny when you mentioned basketball,with Djordjevic on helm last few years we were more then good,also one of reasons why,is the fact that we dont have that many in NBA like in golden years. Think players in NBA are under huge pressure to skip national events like Euro basket,always imagined that they tell them same good story how its best for their own development,them to stay in US and do those camp events during summer,translated,if you go and join national team = less minutes in NBA next season.
When it comes to those cnuts in football,we were always piss poor vs quality of players(or their performances in clubs) but last,not 5,more like 10 years they are extra special piss.You will see,after 1st game,how much they dont give a feck in a game vs you guys,easy win for you imo,things might tricky if they get mind controlled or something like that.
and he never played for a big club in Portugal
Well the Scotland vs Germany game was by far the best one I've seen over this tedious International break. The Scots gave it a good go and I thought Germany looked a bit shaky defensively, there was space to be taken advantage of between their CB's and the two fullbacks.
In attack Muller, Gundogan and Gotze were class though.
In attack Muller, Gundogan and Gotze were class though.
I like Cabaye but Sissokho I cannot take it anymore. Such an ordinary and average, if he wasn't big I very doubt he'd get called up. I have never understood what Deschamps has ever seen in him.
He was average at best
most of his goals were scored against Lietchstein and Kuwait etc..
I remember that a few years ago you had something like 10 NBA players, but only one of them was in the team. That was weird. Since Divac and Stojakovic retired/left the team, I don't think that Serbia had that much success (compared to before when you were second only to USA) bar reaching the finals against Spain/US.
Football is definitely worst. Before the qualification I thought that you'll top the group.
NB: just seen that you changed the coach (in basketball) and then surprise surprise, you reached the final last year.
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Absolutely love this new system of spreading the qualifiers, makes the international break a lot more bearable
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