Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse


If you take off the blinkers, it's true. Both have made some horrible tackles, dived as gracefully as Stevie G, shout at the ref regularly and are clearly horrible people off the pitch (possibly not Ronaldo, tbf).

*shrug*. If you think 'pool fans shouldn't be supporting Suarez, you've a lot of questions to ask yourself.
 
If you take off the blinkers, it's true. Both have made some horrible tackles, dived as gracefully as Stevie G, shout at the ref regularly and are clearly horrible people off the pitch (possibly not Ronaldo, tbf).

*shrug*. If you think 'pool fans shouldn't be supporting Suarez, you've a lot of questions to ask yourself.

I'm not saying Liverpool-supporters shouldn't defend Suarez to an extent, we all did with Ronaldo/Rooney.

It's just on a completely opposite level though. Here is a guy who's been banned for issues ranging from racist abuse to biting another man, who's as blatant a cheat as has ever played the game, and in addition is snapping at the ref every fecking time there's a stop in the game.

Then he goes and does that on Parker, and who do the morons in the stands boo? Scott Parker, presumably for having the audacity to be kicked. Let's not forget they booed Evra, erhm, for being called a negro by one of their players.

I mean, I defended Ronaldo as staunchly as anyone for his diving, but when he blatantly dived, I manned up and called it as it was. And whenever Rooney goes and does something stupid, I always tell it like it his - him being a twat.

I don't defend a player blindly for the purpose of it, or invent an FA conspiracy. And that's before we take into account that Suarez in actual fact possibly is the most horrible human being bar Sergio Busquets and Jeremy Clarkson.

And he's not even that good at football! I mean, he's a good player, but he's no where near the likes of Rooney or Ronaldo. So why this cult status? It seems like this racial abuse has almost elevated him to some godlike status. It's not his 9 goals in 32 apps that does it that's for sure(see Berbatov).
 
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He doesn't even anger me any more, I just pity and laugh at him. It's got to the stage where it isn't just us picking up on him. He says he shouldn't have been banned in the first place. Well, that's something, but it's only repeating everything he's being saying over the last few weeks. But the fact that he said this only yesterday:

We are just glad to get him back, so we are not going to go over old ground.

He just can't help himself can he?

He's a very bitter old man.
 
I'm not saying Liverpool-supporters shouldn't defend Suarez to an extent, we all did with Ronaldo/Rooney.

It's just on a completely opposite level though. Here is a guy who's been banned for issues ranging from racist abuse to biting another man, who's as blatant a cheat as has ever played the game, and in addition is snapping at the ref every fecking time there's a stop in the game.

Then he goes and does that on Parker, and who do the morons in the stands boo? Scott Parker, presumably for having the audacity to be kicked. Let's not forget they booed Evra, erhm, for being called a negro by one of their players.

I mean, I defended Ronaldo as staunchly as anyone for his diving, but when he blatantly dived, I manned up and called it as it was. And whenever Rooney goes and does something stupid, I always tell it like it his - him being a twat.

I don't defend a player blindly for the purpose of it, or invent an FA conspiracy. And that's before we take into account that Suarez in actual fact possibly is the most horrible human being bar Sergio Busquets and Jeremy Clarkson.

And he's not even that good at football! I mean, he's a good player, but he's no where near the likes of Rooney or Ronaldo. So why this cult status? It seems like this racial abuse has almost elevated him to some godlike status. It's not his 9 goals in 32 apps that does it that's for sure(see Berbatov).


I agree that with all of your points. I detest Suarez and think that the way he has behaved is horrible.

To be fair, however, Rooney has made some horrific tackles in the past only to be met with a chorus of "Rooney" chants from the majority of onlooking fans. He has attempted to engineer a move away from the club, cheated on his family multiple times, shouts at the referee every game, acts petulantly and childishly with a regularity that is borderline insane for a modern footballer. He is, without doubt, comparable to Suarez. Arguably worse, arguably better.

Suarez has done and said some despicable things that should not be forgiven. It doesn't really matter - at the end of the day, the fans continue to support him. As they do with Rooney, and as they will continue to do. When there is a grey-area, as there is with Suarez and Rooney, the fans will fill it in with what they want to see.

Obviously the blind support given after his racist actions was and is deplorable. It was a feeling and a movement that was fostered by the club and by the management in my opinion. Liverpool fans saw the vehement and unfair defence that was given by their club to Suarez and elected to go along with it. As many on here would, given a similar situation. The difference, I think, would be in how each club would handle it. From past examples, I think it's fair to assume that United would, given a similar situation, accept punishment, give a player a slap on the wrist and move on ASAP. Liverpool didn't do that, they chose (wrongly) to defend Suarez, and the fans went along with it. A badly chosen phrase, perhaps, but "monkey see, monkey do!".

As for why they have so much time for Suarez, I'd assume its a combination of the fact that he is a half-decent player and they haven't had many in recent years, Dalglish has backed him, and they've defended him thus far, they can't really go back now without looking like fools. Human nature. Wrong, of course. Still human nature though!
 
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The fact that that lad feels comfortable wearing that at a game around other Liverpool 'fans' speaks volumes.
 
Was in a tourist bookshop in Uxmal, Yucatan, Mexico about a month ago and saw "Diez Negritos" by Agatha Christie on sale.

:wenger:
 
Dalgish certainly has Liverpool supporters believing his shit. Seemingly reasonable people (some friends), who are big Pool supporters, would normally cringe at any form of racism have bought into the he wasn't actually proven guilty - even though he admitted to using the words.
 
If you take off the blinkers, it's true. Both have made some horrible tackles, dived as gracefully as Stevie G, shout at the ref regularly and are clearly horrible people off the pitch (possibly not Ronaldo, tbf).

*shrug*. If you think 'pool fans shouldn't be supporting Suarez, you've a lot of questions to ask yourself.
I was more referring to the ability comparisons. Ronaldo and especially Rooney can be right cocks, but they're not wasteful and ineffective.
 
If you take off the blinkers, it's true. Both have made some horrible tackles, dived as gracefully as Stevie G, shout at the ref regularly and are clearly horrible people off the pitch (possibly not Ronaldo, tbf).

*shrug*. If you think 'pool fans shouldn't be supporting Suarez, you've a lot of questions to ask yourself.

Um. Yes they have. But Suarez has done worse and packed quite a bit into 20 minutes. The fact that you completely missed the point is noted.
 
Rooney and Ronaldo were/can be scum.

Suarez is on a different level.
 
What's the chances the FA will ban him retrospectively. I will add that I haven't seen any of the incidence or any of the match for that matter and I'm only going by the posts and news reports on here. Did the referee see the incident? The reason I ask is because I can imagine the FA preferring he doesn't play against us.... that's from an avoiding trouble point of view rather than "Ferguson's friends at the FA helping him out" of course :lol: Maybe they will try to avoid it knowing kicking the hornets nest again is probably more hassle than they can handle.

Or maybe the incident isn't as bad as I have read about and none of the above even applies.
 
What's the chances the FA will ban him retrospectively. I will add that I haven't seen any of the incidence or any of the match for that matter and I'm only going by the posts and news reports on here. Did the referee see the incident? The reason I ask is because I can imagine the FA preferring he doesn't play against us.... that's from an avoiding trouble point of view rather than "Ferguson's friends at the FA helping him out" of course :lol: Maybe they will try to avoid it knowing kicking the hornets nest again is probably more hassle than they can handle.

Or maybe the incident isn't as bad as I have read about and none of the above even applies.

Impossible. I hope they don't. I want him to play at OT, and the fact that Rooney didn't get suspended after his elbow would just send the entire game into disrepute. There's enough fans out there believing in conspiracies.

Basically, if it was a United player, I think I'd be able to defend him, by saying that the ball was coming down, and on the off chance Parker didn't head it, he was there to volley it. It was bad, he booted him in the stomach, but I think if it was a different player for a different club it'd be treated differently.

Look in the GIF thread for it.
 
Impossible. I hope they don't. I want him to play at OT, and the fact that Rooney didn't get suspended after his elbow would just send the entire game into disrepute. There's enough fans out there believing in conspiracies.

Basically, if it was a United player, I think I'd be able to defend him, by saying that the ball was coming down, and on the off chance Parker didn't head it, he was there to volley it. It was bad, he booted him in the stomach, but I think if it was a different player for a different club it'd be treated differently.

Look in the GIF thread for it.

Fair enough, like I said I hadn't seen it so I was talking purely hypothetically for the sake of it :D

This made me laugh though, from the Yahoo article:

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Rooney and Ronaldo were/can be scum.

Suarez is on a different level.

(threatening to) walk out on your team mid-season denying the club any chance to find a replacement for you AND cheating on the mother of your children on more than one occasion

VS

Calling an opponent a N*GGER.

I am not sure if they are on different levels of cuntishness.
 
He's a horrible litltle man.

LFC will back him, MUFC will hate him.

The only thing that matters at this stage is what was investigated and proven.

He's served his ban but hey ho - he was guilty and (like mud) that will stick.

If we honestly have faith in that independant finding (and he is what it found him to be) then let's just let him hang himslef again as it's just a matter of time.

We saw the horrible little man act like a twat again tonight on his return (against Parker) and he was lucky not to be sent off.

He's his own worst enemy and regardless of what we say on here - it's down to him now and how he handles himself.

I for one won't be down for the game on Saturday but I really hope you guys that will be there voice yourselves and it comes over loud and clear to people watching all over the world.
 
Good old Suarez back for 4 mins and he blatantly kicks Parker in the Stomach with no intention of going for the ball.

The Daily Fail's Chris Wheeler reports;

"Liverpool striker Suarez was booked just four minutes after coming on as a second-half substitute in the 0-0 draw with Tottenham at Anfield when he caught Scott Parker in the midriff with a kick as he competed for a ball."

Luis Suarez should have seen red, says Wayne Rooney | Mail Online

Competing for the ball my arse.
 
The one thing I will give Suarez is that he's the kind of player that will do anything to win but he's a despicable character. My LFC supporting mates were divided on the racist issue. Some feel Evra's made too much about it but some feel Suarez should just have apologised and moved on. Most of my black friends were appalled at the LFC crowd and how they responded to Evra. One things for sure, I want him to play at OT.
 
I realise what I am saying is a bit "RAWK" itself but I still think it holds true. Just imagine if it was Ferguson saying the things Kop King Kenny has been saying... there would have been a touch line ban at the end of many warnings of future conduct.

It's incredible they have just ignored him like a crazy racist grandfather saying awkward things at a party.

Are there any instances of a manager being punished for saying or implying that the authorities are against them? I brought this up a few days ago with regard to Tony Pulis' comments, and there are a couple of other instances I can remember of people saying this sort of thing and getting away with it, but I can't remember anyone being punished for it.

Good old Suarez back for 4 mins and he blatantly kicks Parker in the Stomach with no intention of going for the ball.

The Daily Fail's Chris Wheeler reports;

"Liverpool striker Suarez was booked just four minutes after coming on as a second-half substitute in the 0-0 draw with Tottenham at Anfield when he caught Scott Parker in the midriff with a kick as he competed for a ball."

Luis Suarez should have seen red, says Wayne Rooney | Mail Online

Competing for the ball my arse.
Agreed, nasty little fecker but the Daily Mail can't say that for legal reasons.
 
Are there any instances of a manager being punished for saying or implying that the authorities are against them? I brought this up a few days ago with regard to Tony Pulis' comments, and there are a couple of other instances I can remember of people saying this sort of thing and getting away with it, but I can't remember anyone being punished for it

None that I can think of either.

Loads of good counter-examples though. Pulis the most recent but I remember Mancini making very specific comments about the capability of one of the PL referees almost in the same week that Fergie got his ban. Nothing came of it.
 
The trouble is, us football supporters are as shallow as feckin puddles… All of us.

Football is a tribal game and our instincts are to protect our own, unfortunately this protectiveness is relative in loyalty depending how much use a particular player has to the team.

Cantona’s stamp on Matthew Simmons or John Moncur's chest along with other mischievous behaviour was tolerated primarily because Cantona was a feckin good footballer for us. The same could be said for Roy Keane. If a less profile player had performed like that he would have been out on his arse pronto.

Unfortunately it’s not just supports that have this bias, the same applies to the managers. Does anybody think Fergie would have tolerated Wayne Rooney’s antics if he hadn’t been so useful to us?

What Suarez did was break the rules, rather big time because racism is totally unacceptable. But in his defence he at least did it in confrontation and in the heat of battle. Howver, what Dalglish is basically doing is condoning Suarez’s crime.

But the big difference in all this is that Racism is crossing right over the line. Tribal or not, Dalglish should be put in the dock.
 
SSN just came out with a cracker there in there round up for the game re the Suarez kick on Parker that he was maybe a bit rusty hence the kick being so wild :rolleyes:
 
The trouble is, us football supporters are as shallow as feckin puddles… All of us.

Football is a tribal game and our instincts are to protect our own, unfortunately this protectiveness is relative in loyalty depending how much use a particular player has to the team.

Cantona’s stamp on Matthew Simmons or John Moncur's chest along with other mischievous behaviour was tolerated primarily because Cantona was a feckin good footballer for us. The same could be said for Roy Keane. If a less profile player had performed like that he would have been out on his arse pronto.

Unfortunately it’s not just supports that have this bias, the same applies to the managers. Does anybody think Fergie would have tolerated Wayne Rooney’s antics if he hadn’t been so useful to us?

What Suarez did was break the rules, rather big time because racism is totally unacceptable. But in his defence he at least did it in confrontation and in the heat of battle. Howver, what Dalglish is basically doing is condoning Suarez’s crime.

But the big difference in all this is that Racism is crossing right over the line. Tribal or not, Dalglish should be put in the dock.

Matthew Simmons was a racist scumbag who had it coming though.

Sometimes someone breaks the rules but does it for reasons that many of us can relate to. Its similar in principle to finding and killing or severely hurting someone who has wronged your family in some way or something like that. Its standing up for something you believe in and being carried over the boundaries of the rules or the law. I felt that way about the kung fu kick. I thought, OK, that is a big blow to Manchester United and yes, it would have been better if he had kept his cool. But Eric is a passionate individual and that man was a wanker and it happened. I had no hesitation to stand by him at all.

What Keano did to Alfie Haaland is a completely different kettle of fish though, in line with what you are saying. There is no defending that, it was just fecked up.
 
Just on SSN seems the players union are now sticking their noses in and saying Evra plus Suarez need to shakes hands prior to the game at the weekend for the good of the game. The good of the game would be them coming out and attacking KD for all the continued attacks on the FA and Evras reputation, saying Suarez apologises for his actions and also Liverpool applogise as well for the good of the game.
 
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Just seconds before he kicked him in the stomach, he poked him in the eye. Classy little git.

What the feck is wrong with this guy? I mean seriously?
I swear if I played against him I couldnt hold myself back. I'd kick the shit out of him.

I hope he gets the response he deserves at OT.
 
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Just seconds before he kicked him in the stomach, he poked him in the eye. Classy little git.

send that to SSN along with the gif of him kicking Parker and suggest they do a little expose on the scumbag - maybe include the catalogue of his previous if you have enough hours in the day

within a few seconds this vile piece of work has gouged his eyes, barged into his back and kicked him in the stomach
 
Fergie calls for strong stance on racism

Fergie calls for strong stance on racism - SuperSport - Football

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has called on football chiefs to take a hardline stance against any new incidents of racism in the sport.

In an interview with CNN, Ferguson said he was at a loss to explain the re-emergence of the problem in English football following Luis Suarez's eight-match ban for racially abusing United defender Patrice Evra.

"I don't understand at all where it's coming from," Ferguson told CNN.

"This is a moment where we have to take stock and we should do something about it if it's surfacing again, and be really hard and firm on any form or shape of racism.

"There have been a couple of examples recently which is not good. In 2012, you can't believe it. It was obvious maybe 20 years ago and the improvements have been for everyone to see.

"I have had some fantastic black players, absolutely magnificent black players, and with every one of them I have enjoyed my working relationship with them."

Ferguson's comments come as Liverpool striker Suarez prepares to face United on Saturday for the first time since the two club's acrimonious meeting at Anfield in October.



Lets see kin Kenny go against what Fergie said. :smirk: