Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse

6 games is harsh enough.

What do you suggest, the chair?

He should get the ban, the fine and all evidence should be handed over to the police so he can face whatever criminal charges his behaviour may warrant.

If he's guilty that is
 
Oh, but I'm not saying Rio or Man Utd aren't hard done by how everything happened. If I'm not mistaking, he even voluntered to do the test just a few hours later, no? There could have been a bit more leniency from the FA in the whole situation. Although if you'd compare to how athletes are treated in some other sports, such as cycling, it's much worse there than in football.

But I was just talking about the punishment itself here, because I often see people compare this case with some other cases where the person has effectively been found positive for drugs. But if that is, let's say, cannabis or even cocaine, I think it's logical that the punishment is less severe.

Concerning the time to clear out drugs/doping, I thought so too at first. But apparently there are performance enhancing drugs that do clear out very rapidly and can become undetectable within 24 hours. But I'd have to look that up again to be sure.

I think that Rio did take a hair follicle test which conclusively cleared him of taking anything.
 
He should get the ban, the fine and all evidence should be handed over to the police so he can face whatever criminal charges his behaviour may warrant.

I doubt calling someone a "negro" would carry much of a punishment to be honest. Probably just a warning.

There's no doubt Suarez is a nasty piece of work who (allegedly) behaved very unpleasantly during a game of football but come on, it's not like he burnt Evra's house down.
 
E.g The FA can do a 6+2= 8 match ban instead of 6 match in jan and 2 in feb.

What's the difference? I imagine it'll depend when the gesture case is settled, if it's during his possible racism ban, then it'll get added onto the end of that, if it's after it, or there is no ban, then it'll just happen as soon as possible.
 
If he gets a massive ban it will be a great early Xmas present.

Nah, we shouldn't see it (a 'guilty' verdict) as some kind of victory over Liverpool; this is far more important than petty rivalry. For all the talk about 'kicking racism out of football', we really need the authorities to put their money where their mouths are.
 
This is the chance Andy Carroll has been waiting for. And if a Frenchman had to suffer to bring that about then so much the better.
 
6 games is harsh enough.

What do you suggest, the chair?

Yes, yes, I suggest he should be hung drawn and quartered.


Ferdinand got an 8 Month Ban for missing a Drugs test despite doing a more extensive test just a few days later to prove his innocence.

If Suarez is found guilty, he'll be found guilty of Racially Abusing a player. Racial Abuse has no place in society let alone in a sport in the Spotlight of the worlds media.

Saying that racially abusing somebody is "worthy of missing a few games out and a weeks wages" is making it a trivial subject in my opinion.

Why is Suarez being treated differently because it is on a Football Field? That Woman on the the Tram is currently being held in jail while she finds out what her custodial sentence is.

6 Game Ban and Weeks wages (That his Club will no doubt cover for him) is a fecking joke. If he's found guilty, the FA should be banning him indefinitely and passing on the evidence to the police to decide what should happen with him.
 
Aren't we all jumping the gun here predicting if the ban will be immediate or how long he'll get. There isn't even an indication that they've made their minds up.
 
I think that Rio did take a hair follicle test which conclusively cleared him of taking anything.

The FA didn't accept the hair follicle test though. Neither does WADA I think. And there are some good reasons for it. Hair testing cannot discover everything for example. Those tests are used for 'normal' drugs such as cocaine, opiates, amphetamins, cannabis, etc.
It's impossible for example to check for EPO, human growth hormone, peptide hormones, diuretics, etc with hair drug testing.
And the risk of false positives with these tests is also quite high. Second hand smoke or breathing in cocaine particles in the air is enough for it to show in your hair. That's why it's not standard to use these things in sport drug testing.

Personally I believe Rio was drug-free, but that's not the case. The problem is that there are very strict rules these days and all proffesional athletes know (or should know) that WADA and sport organisations are extremely strict with these things. In a lot of sports, you even have to fill in forms to let the sport association know where you will be hour by hour so they can send unannounced drug testers to your house at every possible time of the day (even at night).
 
Will the ban be immediate ? City vs Liverpool is on the 3rd of January...

Now, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Surely the poor lad is at least allowed an appeal, which he'll invariably lose and will delay his ban to start on the 4th January?
 
surely he need to be punished for some sort of a ban...... to escape scot-free would be a bad thing when football authorities are trying to kick racism out of football.
 
"At least Tuesday". The most meaningless statement ever? It could be a week from now for all we know.
 
Statement from Friday 16th December:

The Independent Regulatory Commission has confirmed there will be no decision this evening and will continue working through the weekend.

There will be no announcement on any decision before Tuesday 20 December 2011 at the earliest.

Not set a deadline as such, merely when people expected a verdict on Friday, they alluded to the fact that the committee would convene and continue to investigate over the weekend.
 
I understand it's a sensitive issue, but how does it take 4 or 5 days of deliberation to not come up with a verdict?

If guilty, who would decide the punishment? The FA or the independent commission?
 
I understand it's a sensitive issue, but how does it take 4 or 5 days of deliberation to not come up with a verdict?

If guilty, who would decide the punishment? The FA or the independent commission?

I was under the impression that the independent commission is effectively operating as the "jury" in assessing the evidence, and filing a verdict, and it was then up to the FA to review the verdict and deliver the punishment/sentence if that makes sense.
 
I was under the impression that the independent commission is effectively operating as the "jury" in assessing the evidence, and filing a verdict, and it was then up to the FA to review the verdict and deliver the punishment/sentence if that makes sense.
That's what I'd have assumed, which makes the deliberation time even more confusing. It's not like there's loads of evidence or witness testimonies to review. It's a sensitive case but fairly simple compared to some criminal hearings that real juries have been faster to decide on.

You never know though, Suarez could have a mental disability that's complicating things...
 
For the Scandis: - Veldig strengt hvis han straffes for rasisme - sport - Dagbladet.no

That Møller seems to be a raving lunatic. Every single statement is worthy of a straightjacket.

Seriously, that has to be the worst quotes on this matter so far. For those poor bastards who arent able to read Norwegian, it pretty much says this:

"-Let's hope that they get the conclusion right. I will never defense racism or violence on the pitch, and the Liverpool-players will have to face the consequences if they do something wrong. But he (Suarez) has the support of the club and his fellow countrymen, and that makes it very harsh if he's have to face any punishment. "

What.The.Hell?? :wenger: As long as his club supports him, then punishment is harsh!? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. fecking deluded idiots.
 
Seriously how long does it take? This isn't some complicated murder mystery FFS and even then it takes Hercule Poirot only 300 pages to solve those.

FWIW I doubt he will be banned for any matches. Probably warned about future conduct and forced to take some classes to break the 'culture barrier'.
 
I'm inclined to think that the Independent Commission has delivered its verdict to the FA, and that it is the FA that is holding up the process.

I think they'll have one eye on setting a precedent given that they'll likely have to review the Terry incident (which should really see him stripped of the England captaincy, and banned from representing his country in the future if found guilty).

But the FA being the FA will also look at reducing collateral damage in terms of the Premier League's reputation in World football. They need to be seen to act appropriately, but will look at diverting attention in someway so as to prevent any further fuss in the future. They'll want to move on quickly which makes me think that there decision will be final without the opportunity for Suarez or Liverpool to appeal.

I may be way off, but that's just my thoughts.
 
Statement from Friday 16th December:



Not set a deadline as such, merely when people expected a verdict on Friday, they alluded to the fact that the committee would convene and continue to investigate over the weekend.

It was the over the weekend thing that led me to think Tuesday would be the day. As other posters have said, how long does it take?
 
It was the over the weekend thing that led me to think Tuesday would be the day. As other posters have said, how long does it take?

I thought that initially, which is why i expected a verdict by the end of Monday.

But as the statement said, an announcement wouldn't be made until Tuesday at the earliest.

They've just bought themselves time. There's no reporting deadline as such, so could effectively carry it out until the New Year if they needed/wanted to.