F1 2021 Season

Neutral Mark W who spent most of his career at Red Bull under Horner?

Correct and DC but they are ex racing drivers so interesting to hear as they usually give good insights. Damon also thinks there will be a penalty.

Irrespective of the nuances, the problem is this is something that has impacted the race and the championship so a lot of pressure.

It doesn’t matter, it will be a time penalty and Hamilton will still win.
 
Sky just can’t stop licking Lewis’s arse. Its like in front of the Jury trying to prove a guilty innocent!
This really should be penalty and a ban for Lewis, it was irresponsible and dangerous from him.
 
Yeah his logic was a bit bizarre though. "Both of them could have backed off, neither did, so penalty Hamilton".

If Hamilton gets a penalty, it has to be because it was on him, not because they both refused to back out.

Max was ahead and on the racing line. Pretty simple.

You can't take that corner full speed from where Lewis was on the track without running off, so the onus was on him to back off not Max.
 
Again you’re wrong but will leave it there. Max clearly corrected to give Lewis more space on the inside.
i’m not wrong read the rules :lol:

watch the onboard again and they’re almost wheel to wheel. that’s what happens when you get a draft situation into a dangerous corner.

it’s a racing incident.

will lewis get a penalty? maybe, but he’s certainly not 100% at fault
 
Lewis has finally joined senna (taking prost off), schmacher (taking damon off) in a championship challenge. No doubt max will take off a future challenger after lewis has retired.
 
I can’t work out if people are serious here saying Hamilton should be banned :lol:

I don’t think he should get a penalty but I wouldn’t be surprised to see one.

It’s ridiculous that they’ve not been able to make a decision before the restart though
 
Max was ahead and on the racing line. Pretty simple.

You can't take that corner full speed from where Lewis was on the track without running off, so the onus was on him to back off not Max.

You've quoted me criticising Damon Hill not making a logical argument, not me arguing either way.

Having said that, Max has always driven on the edge, I think he was relying on his reputation of never backing out too much there, his defence was at least as aggressive as Lewis' attack.

The real shame is the potentially brilliant race for 1st that it's cost us!
 
that isn’t the rules. being half an inch ahead means nothing.

I think it’s a racing incident and in no way was it intentional from Lewis, but his front wheel touched Max rear wheel which means they were far from side by side.
 
Sky just can’t stop licking Lewis’s arse. Its like in front of the Jury trying to prove a guilty innocent!
This really should be penalty and a ban for Lewis, it was irresponsible and dangerous from him.

It's these commentators in particular. They're always like it with Hamilton. Crofty couldn't give a feck what happens as long as Lewis gets in front.
 
Whatever the penalty decision, I imagine that for Max this is a bit of a gloves off moment. I imagine next time they're wheel-to-wheel he'll find reason to be extra aggressive. We might be seeing more incidents this year.

i think that’s always been max’s problem. it’s always gloves off. he’d have way more points and wins with a bit of calmer head and knowing when to back out. he was never in control of that lap and i was expecting that outcome at every single corner.
 
i’m not wrong read the rules :lol:

watch the onboard again and they’re almost wheel to wheel. that’s what happens when you get a draft situation into a dangerous corner.

it’s a racing incident.

will lewis get a penalty? maybe, but he’s certainly not 100% at fault
I know the rules
 
Lewis has finally joined senna (taking prost off), schmacher (taking damon off) in a championship challenge. No doubt max will take off a future challenger after lewis has retired.
He's taken off Rosberg more than once. It's because the speed of that corner we have to assume it wasn't on purpose.
 
Sky just can’t stop licking Lewis’s arse. Its like in front of the Jury trying to prove a guilty innocent!
This really should be penalty and a ban for Lewis, it was irresponsible and dangerous from him.

A ban? :lol:

You're being as ridiculous as you accuse Sky.
 
C4 said Lewis was fighting understeer, and couldn't turn in.

Exactly right. You could easily see the that by the steering wheel angle. What is he supposed to do. Disappear. This is racing. What we were all supposed to be called for.
 
I think it’s a racing incident and in no way was it intentional from Lewis, but his front wheel touched Max rear wheel which means they were far from side by side.
eh? lewis backs out at the last moment as he sees max turning in. You just ignore them being alongside 1 second before?

some of you guys I swear :lol:
 
Everyone surely realises Lewis won't finish this race, don't they? He'll crash out.
 
I think you're getting too emotional mate.

No matter what the outcome, it was not deliberate and both drivers could've caused crashes in that half lap if the other hadn't backed out.

I’m not emotional at all. You just can’t do that in my opinion. It was deliberate to drive him to the left.
 
Penalty - I really wish that type of incident was racing, but to be fair I can understand it given some of the other penalties this year.
 
10 second the bare minimum that was deserved.

Well done stewards, at least consistent with the Russell and Austria penalties.
 
10 seconds is not enough if they deem that as his fault.