F1 2021 Season

Phenomenal Russell! And on the mediums too!!

Looks like Williams have improved to slightly up mid field

Just really hope he isn't hit by bad luck tomorrow again
 
F-Red said:
I'd say it's more George outperforming than them having genuine midfield pace, you'd expect more from Latifi if they had midfield pace improvement.
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Very good point, he's like a Hamilton, getting the absolute maximum out of his car. Surely, Surely, this has to make Mercedes promote him to Bottas' seat.

Also Lewis has signed a 2 year deal so when else can they put him in it, he can't be stuck in that Williams for 2 more years. I can't even think of any other open seats for him, unless they bin Ricciardo from McLaren?
 
British F1 is in safe hands with Norris and Russell, super talents
 
Looks like ricciardo made a mistake moving to mclaren. He is getting obliterated by lando
 
I know Russell is a Mercedes driver, does F1 do loans like football? Eg if they (incorrectly in my opinion) keep Bottas next season, and say McLaren decide to bin Ricciardo who's been a bit naff, could George go there for a year "on loan?"
 
Can’t underestimate Lando’s season so far, he has been superb. Smashed Danny Ric, he’s going to be immense.
 
TheBest said:
Looks like ricciardo made a mistake moving to mclaren. He is getting obliterated by lando
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His engineer saying Ricciardo's technical feedback is lacking isn't exactly a good sign either. Can see it being his last season in the McLaren.
 
Russell will start 8th given Vettel will get a penalty, amazing from him as well as Norris. So bloody close to Verstappen.
 
Lando on the front row and Perez ahead of the mercs, beautiful scenes.
 
Fantastic by Norris, and Russell! Just hope Norris has the pace in the race tomorrow to get a podium. Seems a really nice guy too

What is Max not happy about? I'm surprised they didn't use Perez to tow him, though it meant Perez got 3rd so can help out in the race

Hamilton did not look impressed, just sitting in his car. Thing is if Max has problems tomorrow, he eats back into his championship lead
 
United Hobbit said:
Fantastic by Norris, and Russell! Just hope Norris has the pace in the race tomorrow to get a podium. Seems a really nice guy too

What is Max not happy about? I'm surprised they didn't use Perez to tow him, though it meant Perez got 3rd so can help out in the race

Hamilton did not look impressed, just sitting in his car. Thing is if Max has problems tomorrow, he eats back into his championship lead
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Max didn’t want to be first in line for the 2nd attempt in q3 which is understandable on a track like this.
 
United Hobbit said:
Very good point, he's like a Hamilton, getting the absolute maximum out of his car. Surely, Surely, this has to make Mercedes promote him to Bottas' seat.
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Bottas 0.04 behind today and 0.03 in front last week, if Bottas is that close to the maximum of the car I'd keep him. I won't of course, because Russel is much better. But now for the first time in years Mercedes needs a great driver because Red Bull has, while (almost) matching the Mercedes, Hamilton doesn't show up.
 
Dr. Funkenstein said:
Bottas 0.04 behind today and 0.03 in front last week, if Bottas is that close to the maximum of the car I'd keep him. I won't of course, because Russel is much better. But now for the first time in years Mercedes needs a great driver because Red Bull has, while (almost) matching the Mercedes, Hamilton doesn't show up.
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They have 1 unless you mean 2 great drivers?
 
Dr. Funkenstein said:
Bottas 0.04 behind today and 0.03 in front last week, if Bottas is that close to the maximum of the car I'd keep him. I won't of course, because Russel is much better. But now for the first time in years Mercedes needs a great driver because Red Bull has, while (almost) matching the Mercedes, Hamilton doesn't show up.
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A 2 week sample. Well done. :lol:
 
Russell up to P8 now with the fall out of the Alonso incident and the penalties.
 
Tomorrow has a max victory written all over it from turn 1. What an effort from norris and russell. Mercs in trouble, lewis will have to hope to get p2 at end of the race and damage limitation. This championship has Max and RB written all over it.
 
Barring a DNF or a mistake, cant see anything other than a Max win.
the Mercs look well down on power, still shocked that the Red Bull have no only caught up but exceeded, rule changes have something to do with it but still.
Toto says upgrades for Silverstone, but will they be enough ?
 
Austrian GP Qualifying Result
RankDriverNumberTeamQualifying 1Q1Qualifying 2Q2Qualifying 3Q3
1Max Verstappen33Red Bull
fastest lap 1:04.249
fastest lap 1:03.927
fastest lap 1:03.720
2Lando Norris4McLaren1:04.3451:04.4151:03.768
3Sergio Perez11Red Bull1:04.8331:04.4831:03.990
4Lewis Hamilton44Mercedes1:04.5061:04.2581:04.014
5Valtteri Bottas77Mercedes1:04.5631:04.3761:04.049
6Pierre Gasly10AlphaTauri1:04.8411:04.4121:04.107
7Yuki Tsunoda22AlphaTauri1:04.9671:04.5181:04.273
8Sebastian Vettel5Aston Martin1:04.8461:04.4931:04.570
9George Russell63Williams1:04.9071:04.5531:04.591
10Lance Stroll18Aston Martin1:04.9271:04.5471:04.618
11Carlos Sainz Jnr55Ferrari1:04.5961:04.559not available-
12Charles Leclerc16Ferrari1:04.9061:04.600not available-
13Daniel Ricciardo3McLaren1:04.9771:04.719not available-
14Fernando Alonso14Alpine1:04.4721:04.856not available-
15Antonio Giovinazzi99Alfa Romeo1:04.7821:05.083not available-
16Kimi Raikkonen7Alfa Romeo1:05.009not available-not available-
17Esteban Ocon31Alpine1:05.051not available-not available-
18Nicholas Latifi6Williams1:05.195not available-not available-
19Mick Schumacher47Haas1:05.427not available-not available-
20Nikita Mazepin9Haas1:05.951not available-not available-
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
A 2 week sample. Well done. :lol:
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Should I bring up Baku, Monaco and Imola too? The point is that it doesn't matter how much or how little he got on Bottas if he's on pole and Bottas is second, and that it doesn't matter if one out of 3 Bottas is the faster and he'll get him on tyre management or to strategy. It does matter now, these are the races he has to get considerably closer to the max of the car than Bottas, and he doesn't.
 
FIA takes the easy way out and penalise Seb only.

Seb at fault for being last in line of the jam up whereas Perez and Bottas gets away with it despite them being the one that created the jam in the first place.
 
Dr. Funkenstein said:
Should I bring up Baku, Monaco and Imola too? The point is that it doesn't matter how much or how little he got on Bottas if he's on pole and Bottas is second, and that it doesn't matter if one out of 3 Bottas is the faster and he'll get him on tyre management or to strategy. It does matter now, these are the races he has to get considerably closer to the max of the car than Bottas, and he doesn't.
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Maybe look at the last few years mate. Maybe look at the number of championships and also the number of mistakes by each driver over that period.

I struggle to believe you are trying to claim Bottas is at the same level as Hamilton? You make a long winded and incoherent case. Really, what exactly is your point?
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Maybe look at the last few years mate. Maybe look at the number of championships and also the number of mistakes by each driver over that period.

I struggle to believe you are trying to claim Bottas is at the same level as Hamilton? You make a long winded and incoherent case. Really, what exactly is your point?
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No he is not, he's just a replacement driver that turned out to suit Mercedes better than a good driver. The point is that Hamilton didn't need to have a considerable gap to Bottas when the Mercedes was by far the best car. It's on saturdays like these two that he needs to get 3 tenths more out of the car because it counts now, and he doesn't.
 
Dr. Funkenstein said:
No he is not, he's just a replacement driver that turned out to suit Mercedes better than a good driver. The point is that Hamilton didn't need to have a considerable gap to Bottas when the Mercedes was by far the best car. It's on saturdays like these two that he needs to get 3 tenths more out of the car because it counts now, and he doesn't.
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Bottas is a better driver than any of Max's teammates bar Ricciardo.
 
Dr. Funkenstein said:
No he is not, he's just a replacement driver that turned out to suit Mercedes better than a good driver. The point is that Hamilton didn't need to have a considerable gap to Bottas when the Mercedes was by far the best car. It's on saturdays like these two that he needs to get 3 tenths more out of the car because it counts now, and he doesn't.
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So what's your assessment of Hamilton then? It sounds like you're saying he's a good driver that's been carried to greatness by the car...?
 
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