That blow out...
F1 2021 Season
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I thought Mansell was pretty damm good, had a few unfortunate DNF and that blow out OMG !!
I remember that blow out so well. Just gutted when it happened.
he did well to control the car, could've easily been a nasty accident.
They should just make the penalty be a cap on the total points you're able to score. For example, if Red Bull exceeds the cap by 20%, their points total will be decided by 1.2.
That'll keep the big boys compliant to the budget quickly.
The paralympics are literally next week
I heard Japan were contractually obliged to run the Olympics. To the end of billions of pounds fine if they didn't. Maybe f1 are more lenient...
Not 100% though.
What a shame, would have loved a Red Bull win at Japan for Honda's last home race in F1
They could do a whole Olympics, but they can't do a by default bubbled event like a grand prix ?
There's a difference when the Japanese government and Japanese tax payers had money at stake in terms of funding for the olympics.
No, they actually lost money on the Olympics. The difference is that they had no control- it was fully in the IOC hands.
My point is that the tax payers are not footing the bill for the Japanese GP which makes the decision to cancel much easier and less political.
Sure, but it's also much less risk involved, that's why I question the decision.
Risk for what though? The government were going to put it on behind closed doors like the Olympics, and Liberty aren't subsidising promoters this season like they were through covid last year. If there's no fans at the race, then it's pretty much a loss making event and pointless to run, the decision was already made to a certain degree.
Wouldn't be surprised now if Mugello makes another appearance, and possibly another visit to Bahrain.
There is also not a billion+ pound fine for canceling the F1 as there was for the Olympics.
Only good one is Hamiltons
Japan probably won't be the last cancellation yet, I would guess the US, Mexican and Brazilian GP's are all a bit risky.
The US grand prix is in Texas; I'd say that's very unlikely to be cancelled. (Even if that would make no sense when the time comes.)
Theres talk of a double header at texas to make up for losing the Japanese GP. I hate back to back races at the same track with the same layout. Bahrain being the exception. Normal layout and the awesome short layout.
They will likely require proof that you have visited Florida in the last week.
The Losail International Circuit in Qatar is reportedly set to replace Melbourne as a replacement venue on Formula 1's 2021 calendar.
The cancellation of the Australian Grand Prix due to the Covid-19 pandemic has left F1's schedule with a free slot in November. Formula 1 has been considering alternative venues, in both November and in October following the annulment of the Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, also due to the coronavirus pandemic.
In order to preserve F1's 23-race agenda, a double-header at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin has reportedly been tabled as well as a return to Bahrain.
But according to multiple sources, Qatar has come to the forefront as a probable replacement venue for November
The peninsular Arab country has been on MotoGP's map since 2004, while the Losail International Circuit, which holds an FIA Grade 1 licence, has also staged rounds of the World Superbike series as well as of the World Touring Car Championship.
The venue's addition to the calendar in late November would concentrate Formula 1's final leg in the Middle-East, with Jeddah in Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi hosting the final two rounds of the 2021 F1 season.
After F1's upcoming Spa-Zandvoort-Monza triple-header, teams are scheduled to head to Russia and then to Turkey. However, the latter is still currently on the UK's red list - countries from where returning travelers need to quarantine for 10 days in a government hotel in the UK - a status that puts the event in Istanbul in jeopardy.
The same applies for Mexico and Brazil, the second and third rounds of F1's leg on the American continent.
The cancellation of the Australian Grand Prix due to the Covid-19 pandemic has left F1's schedule with a free slot in November. Formula 1 has been considering alternative venues, in both November and in October following the annulment of the Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, also due to the coronavirus pandemic.
In order to preserve F1's 23-race agenda, a double-header at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin has reportedly been tabled as well as a return to Bahrain.
But according to multiple sources, Qatar has come to the forefront as a probable replacement venue for November
The peninsular Arab country has been on MotoGP's map since 2004, while the Losail International Circuit, which holds an FIA Grade 1 licence, has also staged rounds of the World Superbike series as well as of the World Touring Car Championship.
The venue's addition to the calendar in late November would concentrate Formula 1's final leg in the Middle-East, with Jeddah in Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi hosting the final two rounds of the 2021 F1 season.
After F1's upcoming Spa-Zandvoort-Monza triple-header, teams are scheduled to head to Russia and then to Turkey. However, the latter is still currently on the UK's red list - countries from where returning travelers need to quarantine for 10 days in a government hotel in the UK - a status that puts the event in Istanbul in jeopardy.
The same applies for Mexico and Brazil, the second and third rounds of F1's leg on the American continent.
Losail would be a boring circuit for F1. I'd rather see anther circuit do a double header and mix it up with tyre choices.
Never seen any race at it.
But it looks like it could be OK , couple of fast straights, 16 corners, looks like a few good overtaking places.
This vid is only a sim but gives you an idea
Agreed, amazing how they managed to create a circuit with literally no redeeming features.
It's more of a MOTOGP style circuit. Lots of flowing, sweeping corners that transition into each other.
It's not really that it's a bad circuit, it actually looks very fun to drive.
It's more the fact modern f1 cars only work on certain style of tracks. With the dirty air issue right now cars just wouldn't be able to get close to eachother, and I don't see many late braking areas that they could lunge into.
Anyway, needs must - if there's nowhere else that'll be safe enough or work logistically then it'lll have to do.
It probably is fun to drive because its lovely sweeping stuff but that is boring unless you break it up with some big stopping zones or... well anything. I couldn't remember a single corner on that circuit, it just exists.
The Alpine F1 team unsurprisingly confirmed its 2022 line-up, with Fernando Alonso racing alongside Esteban Ocon whose contract with the French outfit runs until the end of 2024.
You think? I thought the opposite - I cant see many, if any, overtaking places on that track since as someone above pointed out, I cant see how cars will be able to stay close to the car ahead without a huge speed advantage because of dirty air.
I have only seen that vid of the track, you make a good point about the dirty air.
Lewis Hamilton says a very uncomfortable bump that has appeared at Spa's Eau Rouge has "kind of ruined" the daunting corner, the Mercedes driver speculating that the issue may be linked to recent mudslides.
Then this crash , he could be right.
This crash was shocking
Then this crash , he could be right.
This crash was shocking
Belgium GP Free Practise
Belgian GP Practice One Timesheet
Belgian GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 1:45.199 |
| 2) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +0.164 |
| 3) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.500 |
| 4) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.619 |
| 5) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +0.736 |
| 6) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.928 |
| 7) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +0.978 |
| 8) Lando Norris | McLaren | +1.138 |
| 9) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +1.298 |
| 10) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +1.413 |
| 11) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +1.450 |
| 12) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +1.484 |
| 13) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +1.556 |
| 14) George Russell | Williams | +1.573 |
| 15) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +1.729 |
| 16) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +1.902 |
| 17) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +2.926 |
| 18) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +3.025 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +3.506 |
| 20) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +3.860 |
Belgian GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:44.472 |
| 2) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | +0.041 |
| 3) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.072 |
| 4) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +0.481 |
| 5) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.493 |
| 6) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +0.708 |
| 7) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +0.830 |
| 8) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +0.864 |
| 9) Lando Norris | McLaren | +0.914 |
| 10) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.932 |
| 11) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +1.045 |
| 12) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +1.286 |
| 13) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +1.317 |
| 14) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +1.495 |
| 15) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +1.646 |
| 16) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +1.726 |
| 17) George Russell | Williams | +2.193 |
| 18) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +2.364 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +2.863 |
| 20) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +3.057 |
The car coming in as the video ended is particularly bad. I hope everyone is ok.
Damn. Thankfully everyone seems to be alright. Incredible they all walked away from a crash like that with just a little soreness.
Belgian GP Practice Three Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:56.924 |
| 2) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.947 |
| 3) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +1.072 |
| 4) Lando Norris | McLaren | +1.585 |
| 5) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +1.989 |
| 6) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +2.281 |
| 7) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +2.400 |
| 8) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +2.512 |
| 9) George Russell | Williams | +2.568 |
| 10) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +2.689 |
| 11) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | +2.884 |
| 12) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +3.057 |
| 13) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +3.532 |
| 14) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +3.825 |
| 15) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +4.345 |
| 16) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +4.446 |
| 17) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +4.586 |
| 18) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +4.588 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +4.868 |
| 20) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +7.458 |
It was a scary crash, agred HALO saved a couple of lives, couple taken to hospital for precautionary checks
This is incredible.
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