F1 2021 Season

I agree about the DNF , but I never thought he was lucky.
21 race and Lewis won 10 Nico 9, Lewis had 2 DNFs Nico just 1, the rest of the races point were pretty evenly spread.
Somebody on Facebook today , said Nico went against team orders and won the WC, I dont agree, the way the season panned out, says to me the opposite, that there was no team orders and the were allowed to race.
16 was the season they changed the crews around who worked on the cars and maybe its coincidence but lewis had issues with the car that season.

Maybe lucky isnt the right word. I rate Nico as a driver, hes had Hamilton and Schmacher as teammates and held his own.

I have no doubt that somewhere in the Mercedes machinery they were glad a german driver won the WDC for Mercedes. But i dont buy into any conspiracy theories. The only what if is, if Mercedes hadn't of swapped the car crews around that season would lewis of had as many dnf's and car gremlins and would he have been WDC that year instead of nico who knows?
 
Just remembered it's poxy sprint qualifying again this weekend. Ugh.
 
I think Russell is a bit special, yet interestingly both he and Norris come across as likeable, without the slightly arrogant aura of the likes of Max and Lewis.

I always find it funny how people see others differently. For me, Russell has the most arrogance of anyone on the grid.. There's more than a hint of "I deserve this" about him.

Norris hides it much better of course, but you know full well there's not a single person in F1 who's not an arrogant prick. Well, maybe Albon, but that's why he's shit.
 
I always find it funny how people see others differently. For me, Russell has the most arrogance of anyone on the grid.. There's more than a hint of "I deserve this" about him.

Norris hides it much better of course, but you know full well there's not a single person in F1 who's not an arrogant prick. Well, maybe Albon, but that's why he's shit.
Ha ha! I must admit, you are probably right.
 
I always find it funny how people see others differently. For me, Russell has the most arrogance of anyone on the grid.. There's more than a hint of "I deserve this" about him.

Norris hides it much better of course, but you know full well there's not a single person in F1 who's not an arrogant prick. Well, maybe Albon, but that's why he's shit.

What? How you could ever reach that conclusion about Russell is baffling to me. No disrespect but I strongly suspect there is an unconscious bias beneath that somewhere.
 
What? How you could ever reach that conclusion about Russell is baffling to me. No disrespect but I strongly suspect there is an unconscious bias beneath that somewhere.
I like Russell. But I sense the same arrogance underneath. Not just with him but with most F1 drivers. I don't believe it is bias to think that. Quite the opposite, there is alot of PR/marketing in F1, so public images are handled well.

It takes nothing away from the sport. In fact, it adds to it.
 
I think any competitive sportsmen or woman has a driven personality which exudes confidence and arrogance. That’s characteristic in one degree or another in all professional sports. So I try instead to compare to other elites within the sport.

You’re right though. Maybe Russell telling his team to ruin his strategy if needed for Latifi, or how he interacts with his team when he makes a mistake, is all a facade. It very well could be. I sense it’s authentic. But I could also be wrong.

Perhaps I was unfair @Camilo
 
Thanks but none of those except one are f1 style and the one that is, works only with pc :lol:
Oh didnt realise you were after f1 style wheel. Theres a few about, more costly. Never checked if any were ps5 compatible.

Personally ive always wanted one of these setups at home:

https://images.app.goo.gl/ju6AvU93UsKxo4wn8

Especially one where you feet and body position are in the same position as they would be in a F1 car.
 
Oh didnt realise you were after f1 style wheel. Theres a few about, more costly. Never checked if any were ps5 compatible.

Personally ive always wanted one of these setups at home:

https://images.app.goo.gl/ju6AvU93UsKxo4wn8

Especially one where you feet and body position are in the same position as they would be in a F1 car.
I think these use fanatec wheels and the frame I guess you can get custom build.
 
I always find it funny how people see others differently. For me, Russell has the most arrogance of anyone on the grid.. There's more than a hint of "I deserve this" about him.

Norris hides it much better of course, but you know full well there's not a single person in F1 who's not an arrogant prick. Well, maybe Albon, but that's why he's shit.
I have never found Russell to be even remotely arrogant, always seen him as been pleasant and likable.

The "There's more than a hint of "I deserve this" , I can see what you mean, he has worked for it, waited for his chance and thinks he deserves it, dont we all think like that, if we have worked at something and get promoted.
 
I have never found Russell to be even remotely arrogant, always seen him as been pleasant and likable.

The "There's more than a hint of "I deserve this" , I can see what you mean, he has worked for it, waited for his chance and thinks he deserves it, dont we all think like that, if we have worked at something and get promoted.

Each to their own. For me he's the most arrogant driver on the grid.

And no, I don't think that, just because you've worked hard you deserve something. None of us "deserve" anything. We get what we earn.
 
Russell is quicker than Bottas so he's there on merit imo, he's arguably one of the quickest over one lap on the grid. I think he'll surprise a lot of people next season.
 
I always find it funny how people see others differently. For me, Russell has the most arrogance of anyone on the grid.. There's more than a hint of "I deserve this" about him.

Norris hides it much better of course, but you know full well there's not a single person in F1 who's not an arrogant prick. Well, maybe Albon, but that's why he's shit.
You seem to be confusing confidence with arrogance. All top sportsmen are assured of themselves. Self belief is very important.

Russell has shown many times he's a team player and has put Williams ahead of his own personal gain at times. Just a very poor judgement I would say.
 
What's this track like for overtaking?
I think Monza is one of the best tracks for overtaking, 11 corners, with 7 of those coming as chicanes.
Monza suits the Mercedes low rake car more that the RB high rake car.
Also gives the less experienced drivers a chance to get a feel for high-speed corners without punishing too much if an incorrect line is taken.
Looking forward to a decent race, I even this the sprint race will work here.
 
I wonder if RB will take the engine penalty at monza then. They havent got enough engines to last the season due to the accidents. At some GP soon they have to take a penalty and introduce engien number 4. Monza might be the best place for it. Lots of overtaking opportunities for max to work his way back up the grid.
 
What's this track like for overtaking?
I think Monza is one of the best tracks for overtaking, 11 corners, with 7 of those coming as chicanes.
Monza suits the Mercedes low rake car more that the RB high rake car.
Also gives the less experienced drivers a chance to get a feel for high-speed corners without punishing too much if an incorrect line is taken.
Looking forward to a decent race, I even this the sprint race will work here.
Monza isn't great with the modern cars.

The only real over taking section is the first corner after the main straight, but that all depends on DRS.

There's a small chance of overtaking into the chicanes mid way around the track, but it's not a high level of overtaking.
 
Monza isn't great with the modern cars.

The only real over taking section is the first corner after the main straight, but that all depends on DRS.

There's a small chance of overtaking into the chicanes mid way around the track, but it's not a high level of overtaking.
Always found Monza one of the better races, fair point about modern cars.
On the plus side, looks like no rain this weekend, dry and hot.
 
Always found Monza one of the better races, fair point about modern cars.
On the plus side, looks like no rain this weekend, dry and hot.
Last years race had barely any natural over takes without cars out of position due to the red flags. Obviously you'll get a few but it's not going to be madness like some are expecting.

I bet you in the sprint race there will be a maximum of 5 overtakes.
 
Last years race had barely any natural over takes without cars out of position due to the red flags. Obviously you'll get a few but it's not going to be madness like some are expecting.

I bet you in the sprint race there will be a maximum of 5 overtakes.
You could be right, just hoping it will be a decent race.
Dutch GP was in a cracking setting , but a pretty dull race.
 
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You seem to be confusing confidence with arrogance. All top sportsmen are assured of themselves. Self belief is very important.

Russell has shown many times he's a team player and has put Williams ahead of his own personal gain at times. Just a very poor judgement I would say.

I'm not confusing anything. I wouldn't have written it if I didn't mean it. Why would you think otherwise?! Bizarre.
 
I'm not confusing anything. I wouldn't have written it if I didn't mean it. Why would you think otherwise?! Bizarre.
Give us one example of him being arrogant? I'd love to hear it.
 
Oh fecking hell, I forgot too.
Yep, I really hope this one goes badly tbh.

Everybody was making such a song and dance of it at Silverstone and acted like like it went amazing. Apart from Alonso's early lap heroics it was pretty poor.
It has potential to be better, but the way they're using it right now is crap IMO.
 
Give us one example of him being arrogant? I'd love to hear it.

You don't have to be outwardly arrogant to be arrogant. I'm not sure there's a single F1 driver on the grid you could say is obviously arrogant; they all toe the team line on camera.

He definitely thinks he's special though, I think he's pretty transparent.
 
Give us one example of him being arrogant? I'd love to hear it.
Him saying "Perhaps if I was another driver, he wouldn't have done that" about Bottas in Imola was very arrogant. He did take responsibility the next day for his actions (after a bollocking from Toto) which was nice to see and I don't think he's any more arrogant than the average F1 driver but there's been some signs of arrogance.
 
Does anyone know what time qualifying starts tomorrow? I can't seem to find it on the Sky Sports website, and hope I'm back from work on time.
 
Does anyone know what time qualifying starts tomorrow? I can't seem to find it on the Sky Sports website, and hope I'm back from work on time.

Fri 10th SepOn AirStart
Practice 11:00pm1:30pm
Qualifying4:20pm5:00pm
Sat 11th SepOn AirStart
Practice 210:30am11:00am
Sprint2:35pm3:30pm
Sun 12th SepOn AirStart
Grand Prix12:30pm2:00pm
 
Does anyone know what time qualifying starts tomorrow? I can't seem to find it on the Sky Sports website, and hope I'm back from work on time.

The show starts on sky at 16:20. So I guess around 5ish?

EDIT - :lol: I was beaten to it, by 5 minutes
 
Him saying "Perhaps if I was another driver, he wouldn't have done that" about Bottas in Imola was very arrogant. He did take responsibility the next day for his actions (after a bollocking from Toto) which was nice to see and I don't think he's any more arrogant than the average F1 driver but there's been some signs of arrogance.
wouldn’t say that’s arrogant personally.

everybody knows that russell was his main rival for the seat and his point is maybe bottas was defending harder than usual because it’s him.

I don’t think that was an unfair thing to say - but was obviously told to publicly back down to save face. he said what he believed true in the heat of the moment.
 
Fri 10th SepOn AirStart
Practice 11:00pm1:30pm
Qualifying4:20pm5:00pm
Sat 11th SepOn AirStart
Practice 210:30am11:00am
Sprint2:35pm3:30pm
Sun 12th SepOn AirStart
Grand Prix12:30pm2:00pm
The show starts on sky at 16:20. So I guess around 5ish?

EDIT - :lol: I was beaten to it, by 5 minutes

Thank you, didn't realise the sprint would start so late either thought it would be at 2pm so that's helped!

Fortunately will be back from work on time unless traffic is beyond awful

Hope it's an exciting race, shame it won't be raining.
 
George Russell in the Press Conference
Q: "Did you recommend [Albon] to the bosses?"
GR: "I definitely told the guys who I'd thought would be best suited. I know it was very close between he and Nyck de Vries, and to be honest I was quite clear saying whoever you get in the seat would do a really good job. Obviously, offering different things, and I think Alex with his experience managed to tip the scales in his favor, but you know, Alex is a fantastic driver. He had a tough time at Red Bull, but I think he's going to come back even stronger, and you know, he's always been there and everything he's ever done, and I'm sure the environment at Williams is going to suit him to a tee, and he's going to perform really well. Happy for him."
 
wouldn’t say that’s arrogant personally.

everybody knows that russell was his main rival for the seat and his point is maybe bottas was defending harder than usual because it’s him.

I don’t think that was an unfair thing to say - but was obviously told to publicly back down to save face. he said what he believed true in the heat of the moment.
He implied that Bottas did something "incredibly dangerous" because of who Russell is, you can't get more arrogant than assuming someone is racing you harder than anyone else. Especially when what Bottas did was just the normal thing in defending, you take the best line and squeeze your rival without pushing them off track or changing direction suddenly - Jolyon Palmer's analysis here does a great job illustrating this and why Bottas did nothing egregious or wrong.

And it was a massively unfair thing to say, hence why Wolff went in on him as hard as he did.

The fact that it was in the heat of the moment is why I mentioned his apology - saying things you regret happens, especially in F1. Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen have all had to apologise for stuff they've said about other drivers in the past and I don't really hold it against them too much, likewise with Russell here.
 
He implied that Bottas did something "incredibly dangerous" because of who Russell is, you can't get more arrogant than assuming someone is racing you harder than anyone else. Especially when what Bottas did was just the normal thing in defending, you take the best line and squeeze your rival without pushing them off track or changing direction suddenly - Jolyon Palmer's analysis here does a great job illustrating this and why Bottas did nothing egregious or wrong.

And it was a massively unfair thing to say, hence why Wolff went in on him as hard as he did.

The fact that it was in the heat of the moment is why I mentioned his apology - saying things you regret happens, especially in F1. Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen have all had to apologise for stuff they've said about other drivers in the past and I don't really hold it against them too much, likewise with Russell here.
he’s not saying it from an arrogant stand point though, he believes there’s bad blood and a motive behind it - that’s his opinion.

if he said bottas only did it because i’m so much better than him in a slower car then i’d agree.
 
he’s not saying it from an arrogant stand point though, he believes there’s bad blood and a motive behind it - that’s his opinion.

if he said bottas only did it because i’m so much better than him in a slower car then i’d agree.
That's the arrogant part though, he's assuming that Bottas was racing him harder than he would anyone else (and again, he wasn't) and assuming that Bottas must have a motive against Russell, it can't just be that Bottas was racing normally.

And something can be your "opinion" and you can still be arrogant or wrong for saying it. Case in point, Vettel accusing Hamilton of brake-checking him in Baku 2017. Also his opinion, also utterly wrong. Hence why both Russell and Vettel apologised for their conduct in those incidents.
 
Italian GP Running order
Friday
FP1

Just one hour to prepare for qualifying

The race weekend begins with a now traditional one-hour session for free practice. However, the programme the teams will run is very different.

It’s now one of just two practice sessions, meaning a 33.3% reduction in on-track ‘testing’ time during a race weekend, and the only one before qualifying, so the focus here will be on one-lap set-up.

From their allocation of 12 tyres – (6 softs, 4 mediums and 2 hards) – teams will likely kick off with runs on the hard compound for installation laps and set-up checks and then use one set of the softs to do some low-fuel runs.

With just one hour of practice, the pressure is on to have an error-free session. A driver mistake on track or a mechanical issue could mean they head into qualifying blind – and therefore very much on the back foot.

Teams will also have to largely finesse their cars for the rest of the weekend, as they head into parc ferme straight after the session to avoid the creation of special ‘qualifying cars’. There is a list, however, of parts that can be changed, such as brake friction material.

Qualifying
Q2 tyre choice no longer determines Grand Prix start tyre for the top 10

The qualifying format we’ve all become accustomed to – split into three segments with the 10 quickest fighting it out for the best grid slot in Q3 – remains the same.
1800 local time – to maximise the chances of more people being able to watch after work. The fastest time in qualifying gives you P1 on the grid for the new F1 Sprint event.
Drivers can only use the softest tyre compound available and have four sets to run – with those making into Q3 getting an extra set.
And the drivers who make it into the final part of qualifying will no longer have to start the Grand Prix on the compound they went fastest on in Q2, as the choice is now free.

Saturday
FP2

One hour to gather long run data

Saturday brings the second and final practice session of the weekend – in the scheduled slot that usually hosts FP3.

Here, the teams will focus on gathering long run data – and running the two tyre compounds which they expect to use in the Grand Prix. Given there is now free choice on starting tyre, teams will likely focus on the medium and hard.
They can use this session to check car balance, the brakes, ride height – and of course tyre degradation with an eye on Sunday’s main event.
It’s not much time to prep, so teams will have to rely even more heavily on their pre-event simulation tools.


F1 Sprint
A fast and furious single stint race
Saturday afternoon brings the second ever F1 Sprint – a 100km dash, which based on the length of the Monza track will be 18 laps and last around 25-30 minutes.
As we saw at Silverstone, the cars are able to run at maximum speed for the full distance, without having to worry overly about conserving their tyres.
The tyre model used by F1’s data team suggests that all the tyres will have the same level of performance when they are around 15 laps old. After that, the quickest tyre becomes the hard, followed by the medium.
The softs will struggle after that point, with their performance dropping off quickly.

Sunday
The Grand Prix


Sunday remains the focal point of the weekend, with the Grand Prix handing out the big points as usual – 25 for the win down to one point for 10th position.

With free choice on tyres, we will have to wait until they pull the tyre blankets off ahead of the formation lap to see which driver has gone for which compound, adding an extra layer of intrigue.
They must then use at least two compounds during the race, which means at least one pit stop, but the teams and drivers will be relying on far less practice data than they're used to – which history tells us tends to make for exciting racing!