F1 2021 Season

Christ Toto instantly gets on my nerves when he opens his mouth. No charisma, very unlikeable character. Is that in the job description for team bosses? Though Zak Brown seems like a decent guy judging by the few interviews I've seen
I think the opposite. He comes across as very professional and measured in comparison with Horner.
 
So pleased for Alonso. Very well deserved podium and driver of the day.
Max lead down to 8 which is still significant with just the 2 races.
Would Would a sweet end to the season to see smug Horner and entitled Max lose the championship.

But it could go either way...
 
Christ Toto instantly gets on my nerves when he opens his mouth. No charisma, very unlikeable character. Is that in the job description for team bosses? Though Zak Brown seems like a decent guy judging by the few interviews I've seen
Sure you have not got mixed up, you are describing Horner to a tee.
Horner just moans and bitchs about everything, he is arrogant and just unlikable.
Toto also moans, but he is likable.
Horner or Toto as a boss, it would be Horner all day.
 
I can't think of many team bosses I've liked over the years apart from Ross Brawn.
 
Sure you have not got mixed up, you are describing Horner to a tee.
Horner just moans and bitchs about everything, he is arrogant and just unlikable.
Toto also moans, but he is likable.
Horner or Toto as a boss, it would be Horner all day.
Don't think I mentioned Horner did I? Wasn't meant as a comparison between them anyhow. Horner is more charismatic than Tot without a doubt but the things yes he bitches and moans about everything. They're both cnuts. Think the difference is Horner is a cnut in public and Toto is PC to the outside world.
 
Don't think I mentioned Horner did I? Wasn't meant as a comparison between them anyhow. Horner is more charismatic than Tot without a doubt but the things yes he bitches and moans about everything. They're both cnuts. Think the difference is Horner is a cnut in public and Toto is PC to the outside world.
Toto seems very inoffensive to me. Strange that you should get so riled up about a rather bland character.
 
Just caught up with the race. Plenty of overtaking so wasnt as bad as originally thought. Did have my heart in my mouth when I thought bottas would cause a saftey car with his blown tyre undoing all of lewis's work.

8 point lead with two races to go, would you rather have the lead going into the last two races or at present the faster car in a straight line chasing down those 8 points? It's a tough call.

Personally would love lewis to win no8, however dont mind if max wins it either. Just cannot stand Christian Horner, maybe the most dislikable team principle in f1, worse than flavio.
 
Yeah, Toto "Fcuk them all" Wolff is very inoffensive. My bad.


That reaction was such a nothing reaction and it’s strange how riled up some people including Horner have been by that . Mercedes felt that they had a tough weekend and that’s just a way of pumping yourself up. Can’t believe how anyone can take that so seriously
 
That reaction was such a nothing reaction and it’s strange how riled up some people including Horner have been by that . Mercedes felt that they had a tough weekend and that’s just a way of pumping yourself up. Can’t believe how anyone can take that so seriously
It's not just that reaction though, that's just the latest example of it. He seems to like to create an us against the world atmosphere and is just very unlikeable in general. The way he instructs Bottas reminds me of how people command their dogs.
 
Just caught up with the race. Plenty of overtaking so wasnt as bad as originally thought. Did have my heart in my mouth when I thought bottas would cause a saftey car with his blown tyre undoing all of lewis's work.

8 point lead with two races to go, would you rather have the lead going into the last two races or at present the faster car in a straight line chasing down those 8 points? It's a tough call.

Personally would love lewis to win no8, however dont mind if max wins it either. Just cannot stand Christian Horner, maybe the most dislikable team principle in f1, worse than flavio.

Given the layout of the circuits, you’d definitely rather be Hamilton right now. Red Bull are relying on an accident, reliability issue or strategy feck up from Mercedes. I just don’t see how else they can keep Hamilton behind Max after what we’ve seen in the last two races.
 
Given the layout of the circuits, you’d definitely rather be Hamilton right now. Red Bull are relying on an accident, reliability issue or strategy feck up from Mercedes. I just don’t see how else they can keep Hamilton behind Max after what we’ve seen in the last two races.
Imagine Bottas' car will be upgraded as well given Mercedes retired it so they would be free to change some parts right?
 
Does anyone know which ICE engine lewis ran this weekend? Was it the brasil one or the other one in the pool?
 
Does anyone know which ICE engine lewis ran this weekend? Was it the brasil one or the other one in the pool?
People are saying not the Brazil one... if that's the case then will be interesting to see what it does at Saudi (perhaps it was so fast as its been tuned to only last 3 races?)

Wonder if red bull might just write off saudi and take a new engine / grid penalty and go for it In Abu dhabi
 
Frank Williams?
Frank Williams
Eddie Jordan
Alain Prost
Jean Todt
Jackie Stewart

They are all going back a few years I suppose

Frank Williams should be one for sure though I never really focused on that side of things when Williams were dominating as I was young and it was all about the cars on track.

Eddie Jordan is great... For channel 4's F1 coverage.

The others I was thinking more about title winning teams when they are under pressure and fighting other teams - they seem okay but didn't really stand out as the nice but level headed guy that Ross Brawn is.

Otherwise I guess you could add a few like Claire Williams, Vasseur, Whitmarsh, etc.

I look forward to Binotto getting involved next year - seems an odd ball with his own set of opinions but with the might of Ferrari behind him.
 
Does anyone know which ICE engine lewis ran this weekend? Was it the brasil one or the other one in the pool?

Toto confirmed it wasn't the Brazil one earlier in the weekend, and that's what his 'spicy equipment' is about above - using that mega engine (or flexi rear wing if you believe the rumours) for the next race.

They've won the next one barring a disaster so it will come down to Abu Dhabi.
 
Toto confirmed it wasn't the Brazil one earlier in the weekend, and that's what his 'spicy equipment' is about above - using that mega engine (or flexi rear wing if you believe the rumours) for the next race.

They've won the next one barring a disaster so it will come down to Abu Dhabi.
Thanks, bbc article confirmed that it wasnt the brasil engine, though lewis used the same rear wing as in brasil. It was RB who changed their wing for qatar, using the rear wing that they used in Mexico and Monaco. They seem to have a structural issue with their rear wing that they use at low downforce circuits I.e. Saudi and Abu Dhabi. Probably why Horner is so salty.
 
What an absolute legend, his team is part the reason why I fell in love with the sport. Hugely respected by everyone, an absolute gentleman.

Sad day for F1.
 
sad day for F1 , RIP Frank :(

Legendary Formula 1 team owner Sir Frank Williams, the eponymous founder and former team principal of Williams Racing, has passed away at the age of 79.

Sir Frank was admitted to hospital on Friday and passed away peacefully on Sunday morning surrounded by his family.

"Today we pay tribute to our much loved and inspirational figurehead," the Williams family said in a statement.

"Frank will be sorely missed. We request that all friends and colleagues respect the Williams family’s wishes for privacy at this time."