Masi got his entertaining last lap.
Now, you can sort the correct winner.
Now, you can sort the correct winner.
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And that’s just TV, each year I take my child to Silverstone and it’s £500+ for the two of us just for tickets, never mind accommodation, its a dream one day to go to a foreign weekend, it’s a ridiculously expensive sport to follow for the average fan. And days like today just make it even more sour that they’re playing up to the one day quick drama fan.
And the person they are running against was allowed to eat some glucose sachets just before the sprint.
That's true, but that kind of lift will never compare to the sheer reach of free to air TV. Even people who weren't really interested in the sport used to have an idea of who the champion was etc. But now?...nope.
I was thinking more of Ralf's older brother and Hakkinen....
The exact reason why I lost interest too. Specifically the 2009 season, when in reality Ross Brawn won the title, rather than Jenson Button. Button won 6 of the first seven races and then didn't win another race in the next 10, with only two podiums in the final 10 races.
Now I can't get the mental picture of olympic walking with a safety walker wearing a yellow flashing light on his head out of my head
I thought Masi’s answer at the end was pretty embarrassing tbh. A race director should be saying stuff like well I used this rule or this was the reason I did it . To say well it’s motor racing is just for the cameras & in poor taste
Which they did because they didn’t want to finish under a safety car. Which I get. But if they want to artificially go racing in that scenario then it would have been less egregious to red flag. Then at least it’s a fair fight. Whatever the rules, fundamentally Lewis’ brilliant race to that point was completely wiped out. On a macro level, that’s what is just wrong. Max wouldn’t have even been close without the safety car. So to end up in that scenario, with a huge advantage (insurmountable really), is just incorrect.
Surely they’re not going to change anything to do with result? Would probably outdo what went on in that final lap 
Yup...the worst option though wS allowing the unlapped cars only between max and Lewis to overtake and setting up a turkey shoot into the last few corners
Not racing and merc should just withdraw from f1 as a responce
Work with formula e audi and Renault to make some new series with competent people in charge... ferrari would be welcome if the expected to be treated equally
Hes been embarrassing all season for me.
stewards will give max a 2.1s penalty and call it a day.
That line basically states; forget the last 20+ races, this is the only race that matters. As a Hamilton fan, I'm utterly disgusted by the decision, but at least I can accept Verstappen has beenstanding this season. He and Hamilton have both been 20+ seconds ahead of the rest in so many races this season. He deserves the championship, as would Lewis if he won. I can't remember that decision for Chelsea unfortunately, but they were probably DESERVING of the title that season, whether they SHOULD have won it is another question.
Well stated.
If we forget championship context and its just another race, another guy who would have an argument about the race end is Sainz. Because he was in 3rd but race direction let Ricciardo and Bottas be in between him and Verstappen in 2nd. You could argue that from 3rd your chance to win it was denied the way procedure went.
Delighted for Max, Hamilton is a great driver but a total baby when it comes to sportsmanship.
I don’t know if they’ll overturn this, but the bottom line is, not just because of today, and not because who was favoured, so maybe decisions have been wrong throughout the year. The leaving Hamilton ahead today. The no call in Brazil. The safety car today. The safety car race in spa. Just a tiny handful of inconsistency and making stuff up as they go along. That must be addressed for next year. Masi should be out.
I'm not saying it is Max's fault. I'm saying the finish has been a farce and an unjust one. Especially today which takes away the integrity of the sport.
How can a championship be deserved when it is handed to you on a plate in the last last by the FIA not following the rules?
It was a gift from the FIA who also let Max get away with brake checking in the last race with no serious penalty. The brake checking was Maxs fault, as has been his dangerous driving too.
As a Hamilton supporter this is a tough one to swallow.
2007 he was very young, inexperienced, and had that error in China, ok, it happens.
2016 there were some failures on his Mercedes that didn't happen in Rosberg's car but alright
But this one ? He was the superior driver the entire race, and a crazy unforeseen situation at the very end cost him. You could say ''Yeah like it cost Felipe Massa'' but I don't know man, this one doesn't seem quite right.
2007 he was very young, inexperienced, and had that error in China, ok, it happens.
2016 there were some failures on his Mercedes that didn't happen in Rosberg's car but alright
But this one ? He was the superior driver the entire race, and a crazy unforeseen situation at the very end cost him. You could say ''Yeah like it cost Felipe Massa'' but I don't know man, this one doesn't seem quite right.
No overtaking till ALL cars have unlapped themselves right...
They can't change it now. Would be even worse for F1.Surely they’re not going to change anything to do with result? Would probably outdo what went on in that final lap
I don't believe after 70 years of F1 the organisation has suddenly become this incompetent. That wasn't luck.
And for the same reason it will stand.
And for the same reason it will stand.
Going off what we have seen today anything is possible in this sportSurely they’re not going to change anything to do with result? Would probably outdo what went on in that final lap
This is the most bizarre view in this thread given everything that has happened since the end of a race. A joke of an opinion. Sorry but it’s true.
They are playing to the casuals, people like me these days (I used to watch ot all the time, but went off it). And it worked today as I enjoyed that.
Not sure how people can defend that's what they do though, it is clearly what they do and what happened there. They want us to watch more and they care about that over any kind of "sport" as it's what lines those pockets.
The 10second penalty last race set this showdown up, the Horner calls for a 1-lap shootout and they give it to him. It's all for the drama, all for the moneymen.
And for the record I don't think they even care who won, it wasn't fixed in favour of a particular team, it was fixed in favour of the people who pay the money.
Coultard just touched on that about the appeal. They just mentioned about what's good for TV vs what's good for the sport.
I take it you didn't see his interview and him and his dad congratulating Max and Jos?
here hear.
I think you may have missed his post race interview congratulating max.
So you're saying, after watching the entire season, Max doesn't deserve it? Come on man get a grip, both he and Lewis have been far and above everyone else this season.
I'm literally agreeing with you it is an absolute farce, but one decision that Max has no involvement with, shouldn't change whether or not he deserves it.
Paddy Power have paid out on Hamilton winning the title too
Don’t think even Lewis and Totto would want to win it like this
I think Max did put his wheel in front of Lewis’s before the restart
You are a typical fan who supports people not for what they do on the track but for the twitter drama. Also, your reading comprehension is absolutely dire.
Excellent point!
Deserving is relative though right? Norris has driven brilliantly this season, he's deserving of the title given how well he's done in an inferior car. This season Max deserves it less than Lewis, who managed to stay within touching distance when Max had the faster car, and reeled him in when Mercedes caught up and eventually overtook.
I've said earlier, it's felt all season that this was Max's year, the F1 winds just seemed to be blowing in his favour, but literally making up rules to give him a free overtake that he didn't earn is terrible for the sport.
Eh? He was extremely gracious after the race.
As I've said before, you are going to get that from the woodwork guys coming in to gloat whichever way this went.