F1 2021 Season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Not blaming Red Bull at all where did I state that?
Things need to change though because people watching that today aren’t watching a sport it’s closer to sports entertainment
Problem is they're fueled for a certain amount of laps and most of them run under the required amount already.
They'd have to refuel which would take ages as they can't do it in a pitstop anymore like Indy
BTW I'm not British so yah etc
Honestly mate I'm as annoyed as you are but you can't throw accusations like that around.
The FIA have long wanted a new champion, but that would have been the case no matter the race of whoever was dominating.
Think you need to take that one back, put it down to heightened emotions, and focus on the actual injustice rather than speculating for reasons that aren't justifiable.
It's not really possible in F1 though, fuel is calculated to the absolute last drop. You can't extend races because of the lack of re-fuelling, we would end with Formula E style last laps where they run out of battery, it's stupid.
The only real fix is closing the pit lane during VSC and full SC but even that has it's disadvantages, there is no good solution.
What the feck is going on sky f1. This dude is odd
Agree with this - Lewis was robbed.
The problem with that is that the cars these days put the fuel down to x% of a litre to finish the race + 1 lap. Hence if they drove around for 5 extra laps because the race was extended, the cars wouldn't be able to finish.
But I agree, the race shouldn't finish under a safety car. Perhaps in hindsight they should have red flagged the race and let the cars back in with 5 laps to go in the order that the race had to be stopped
So there are two parts Merc are protesting.
1. The restart from the safety car, either all overtaken cars have to overtake or none at all, but only the ones between Lewis and Max ended up overtaking, which was done to ensure the last lap was "raced", if all of them passed, the race probably would've probably ended behind the SC and Lewis would've won. On top of this, I think (correct me if i'm wrong), there has to be a full lap completed under the SC once the cars have unlapped themselves?
2. Max briefly overtook Lewis under the SC, so trying to get him a 5sec penalty here.
Hah I stand by it...
They changed the rules to few somebody over... the only driver with the balls to represent the black and lbgqt community... set it right or justify it
One particular view I take issue with is the idea of “you can’t punish Max because the FIA got it wrong”. The only reason Max had the opportunity to pass was because the FIA got it wrong. Correcting a wrong decision shouldn’t not happen because someone loses out.
Really, you posted this and thought it was OK !!!
Think you need to log for a while , this post is a new low.
You have not had a good day have you.
What do we think about the overtaking during SC protest? It seems frivolous to me but he does go ahead of Hamilton so if the stewards want to correct everything they could give him a 5 second penalty…
Not sure thats a fair fight for Horner. But then again, Horner would probably bring a knife and stab Toto or something.Toto vs Horner in the ring
So Lewis had lapped every car on the track. Usually when there is a safety car EVERY lapped car is told that they are allowed unlap themselves to go past the safety car and return to track position behind those that have lapped them. OR you don't allow them to unlap themselves and then restart the race with everyone in the same position as they were when the safety car was called out. What was crazy here is Masi the race director decided that only the five cars between Lewis and Max were allowed to unlap themselves AND THEN immediately call in the safety car (the regulations say that if you were to let cars unlap themselves, the safety car pits the lap after the final car has unlapped itself - which would have meant the safety car staying out until the end of the race). This is against all the agreed upon regulations and just meant that Max who had fresh and softer tires was no allowed to get right behind Lewis (when he previously was like 13 seconds behind / had 5 lapped cars to pass).
The only two ways the race should have finished were either:
1, let all the lapped cars unlap themselves and bring the safety car in the following lap, therefore finishing the race under safety car and giving Lewis the WDC
2, Pit the safety car and for the final lap Lewis would have been in front of those five cars and whilst they would have had to get out of the way for Max, it would have taken a lot longer than the 2 seconds Max ended up winning by. Therefore Lewis would have been WDC.
Yup doe either and Lewis wins
They made it up for some reason... I'm guessing they don't like a black chap wearing a rainbow helmet in the middle East
Christ I just realised Horner is only 48, we have another 20 years of his burly hemorrhoid face filling our screens.
I wonder if we get a situation both get the title. I before people say it ai know trying to move pieces around in no way could they achieve it, points wise or wins. Merc aren’t gonna accept FIA saying yeah Masi fecked he’s now sacked but result stands. It could get messy if that’s what is told to happen. I know it sounds ridiculous but you can’t take the title away from Max, that wasn’t his fault but Lewis got screwed so it’d be unfair to not award him the win.
A good point.
A lot of the unhappiness here isn’t directed towards Max.
He’s a fantastic driver and for me equally deserving of the title.
But he wouldn’t have been there but for a balls up at the end of this race.
Gerri will knock him off for the inheritance soon don’t worry.
I’d pay for this if we could guarantee the outcome
What caused the overtake or is that irrelevant?
Again, haven't watched in years but I thought he did nose ahead for a second then dropped back but it looked like Hamilton sort of hit the brakes. Obviously haven't seen a replay.
Tbf I've not had the world championship stolen by a bunch of homophic racists so it could be worse
Exactly. Max is a great driver and will win a WC one day. He doesn't need to be given championships by Michael Masi. Ridiculous.
I think Merc have to protest it. But that happens so often when the pack is being backed up on a safety car restart and is never penalised. Lewis was 3-4 car lengths ahead at the safety car line.
Honestly it would be one of the biggest shambles in the sports history to penalise for that. I think unlapping only a certain number of cars is a far more valid complaint but with a less clear outcome if it's in any way upheld.
Open the tweet and the relevent bit is circled.
If correct, it appears they bent (broke?) the rules to allow a final lap of racing when it should have finished under the sc
A 5 second penalty has surely got to be applied.
FIA have to right their wrong decisions.
FIA have to right their wrong decisions.
That's more of it. Ashamed of your heritage because of the media.
Are you ten years old?
Yeah it looked very much like Lewis tried to bait him into going past.
No the cause is relevant. I don’t think Hamilton does much to force it - and I don’t really get why Max is there - but he didn’t get an advantage that I can see so it shouldn’t be a penalty in my opinion. They’ll only give him one as a way to get out of the mess they’ve made.
This
Some glorious meltdowns on here and elsewhere
Late contender for thread of the year IMO
If they penalise him for it it’s a bit of a joke. But then the argument for when LH got penalised for the rear wing was, rules are rules. And when they made the announcement of points deductions for dangerous driving, plenty on here said that rules and rules and that’s not how the rules have previously been applied. So, it’s tough. It didn’t have any impact and shouldn’t matter if you use logic. But the same could be said about the rear wing.