He's using the laces! I knew he bloody would!
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So is it just always the case that whoever is leading a race when the SC is deployed always loses any gap accumulated before then?
like the race leader could be 1,5, or 10 seconds in the lead but as soon as SC is deployed it’s just given up and the race resumes with 2nd place right back with him?
if so… why?
like the race leader could be 1,5, or 10 seconds in the lead but as soon as SC is deployed it’s just given up and the race resumes with 2nd place right back with him?
if so… why?
Tonight UK time? It’s what, 10pm in UAE?
This needs to be sorted ASAP, can't drag it out into pre-season. They can do count back can't they.
Presumably to give an opportunity for the marshals to safely clear up debris whilst all the cars are in one area of the track.
Just watching highlights from 2008 as they kept referencing it and I couldn't remember what happened
The cars looked tiny, then there was all the refuelling shenanigans too
The cars looked tiny, then there was all the refuelling shenanigans too
Todays race has proven they can do whatever they want!
Two world champions feels right to me. I would have been gutted if Lewis lost fair and square but it would have been easy to accept.
Having two winners in F1 is wrong but the best decision here because it exposed Massi and makes of him the loser of this whole affair.
Having two winners in F1 is wrong but the best decision here because it exposed Massi and makes of him the loser of this whole affair.
I could throw out another fact... Verstappen won.
Also on point one, I meant after Latifi crashed. If the got racing with the backmarkers in play, for all we know, they let Verstappen passed and takes Hamilton out. 11 seconds have nothing to do with that
The intention of the SC is to bunch up the field. Have them drive as a pack in a controlled manner so that the cause for the SC, usually a crash site, can be repaired or cleaned. Wouldn't be safe for the workers if the cars weren't bunched up
Horner was on the radio pressuring him to let Max get back to second and he yeilded
Safety car should’ve been in earlier anyway. I was surprised they even let them race for 1 lap. I thought they’d finish under SC.
Priceless seeing that ass Wolff raging around.
Priceless seeing that ass Wolff raging around.
Yeah that's the case, it's just part of the race really which hasn't really caused an issue until today.
Don't forget Toto was on the radio pressuring him not to red flag the race earlier also...
Imagine if they retrospectively give Max a 5 second penalty for the overtake, then Red Bull protest Hamilton's pass off track and he gets a retrospective 5 second penalty as well.
Obviously that's like the most farcical of all the possible outcomes. The lapped cars stuff is probably what's going to end up at CAS whichever way the FIA go.
Obviously that's like the most farcical of all the possible outcomes. The lapped cars stuff is probably what's going to end up at CAS whichever way the FIA go.
I have no problem with this concept, I do have a problem when team leaders try to persuade FIA in their decision-making when to remove the safety car.
That any of them can contact the race director like that is just insane
Hopefully tonight UAE time, so less than 2 hours to come up with something.
So you don't believe in free speech then.
I asked why, because whether I agree or disagree, people are entitled to express their views on an open forum.
You have just got to look at Spa, gifting points to Verstappen. Then Jeddah with Verstappens reckless driving, now this. It’s a joke, I’m a fan of the sport an not an individual but in this case Hamilton has been well and truly robbed.
Can't imagine they can declare a new winner based in the official not adherence to rules. Otherwise it would be predicting the future I.e what would have happened theoretically.
I think they need to sever that link between the team bosses and the race director while a race is ongoing. Serves no purpose.
Or make the race directorship more like a panel of 3 people so there's hopefully less ability to pressurise.
Or make the race directorship more like a panel of 3 people so there's hopefully less ability to pressurise.
It was unsafe to let the other cars unlap themselves according to Masi as people were still on the track so how should it have been in earlier?
Not really, void any laps after the breaking of protocol
Ok, let’s be clear then, the suggestion that the events today had anything to do with race or Lewis’s support of LGBTQ is utterly disgusting and shameful.
Free speech
Joke of a post.Did he say that. Or did he say not to change the VSC to a safety car.
See your problem with that statement is the lapped cars were allowed to pass, and therefore, the safety car should've ended at the finish line.
Both of these are good changes they should make.
If they adhere to their own rules the race is over because it would have finished behind the SC (which has happened a fair few times).
I don't think even that could be as farcical as what we got
Max will stay as champ, Masi leaves his post, all is forgotten by the start of next season.
No. You don't understand forums nor free speech if you think anything you've posted here is correct.
Spa gifted points to everyone and robbed points from everyone. Max would have won the title finishing second today had Spa gone ahead and he won there from pole.
Also, Baku, Silverstone, Hungary.
Thanks all, I totally get bunching the cars up to clear the track as easily as possible, just seems mad to me that there there isn’t a better way to restart the race less unfairly on anyone holding any lead over those behind them.
No, it would just be deeming the race illegitimate from the end of the 57th lap with the standings as they were which is exactly the result the SC leading them to the checkered flags would have been anyway.
Thats not true. There was one more lap, anything could have happened, SC or not.
One way out would be to invalidate the race due to the rules being incorrectly applied to leave Max the champion. Masi has made a right mess with this one, the FIA will know that if Mercedes take it to CAS they will probably win as the rules are pretty clear so they will want a decision without it going to court.
I was just thinking, if they conclude the race was not run in the confounds of the rules, and they therefore negate the result, surely Max ends up winning anyway?
Thats not how it works. You cant arbitraty select a finish point.