F1 2021 Season

As someone who doesn't really watch F1, I love that the cars and teams and race director are all mic'd up and it's broadcast. That needs to be in football.

It'd last about 3mins before the level of swearing and disrespect of officials turned the TV people straight off.
 
Yes, it was only the English fans in Abu Dhabi cheering on Hamilton. That's exactly what I am saying. Although I guess they didn't get to cheer too long.
Well he stands up for some things the locals may not like so maybe not the best place to take a straw poll
 
It's not a sport then. If the Race Director can make the rules up on the fly then I don't know what it is but it's not a sport.

This exactly like in Wrestlemania 9 when Yokozuna beat Bret Hart for the title, only for the ref to randomly allow Hulk Hogan to immediately challenge (and beat) a tired Yokozuna and win the belt.

Powers that be changing the rules to entertain.

Pro-Wrestling and F1 = Sports Entertainment.
 
I love Max, but this is a terrible decision. Masi has been horrendous all season.
 
No matter the result of the appeal neither team should bring this to CAS. Accept the result and move on. Dragging it out only damages the sport
The sport is being damaged by the FIA. Overruling would bring a little more credibility to the sport and hopefully overhaul Masi and Co.

The appeal should go to the top.
 
I found it somewhat amusing that a grown up multi millionaire can reduce himself to something resembling a little kid not getting the Christmas present he wanted

i’m monumentally fecked off for the hours i feel i’ve now wasted watching f1 this year. i can’t imagine how it feels to dedicate your life to it and have it happen. i think mercedes have come out of this with a lot of credit so far.
 
Meh, I think it's quite clear both Max and Lewis are extremely good and much better than the rest of the field, but saying which one would be faster right now in the same car? I doubt anyone can say that with any certainty.

But feck me who wouldn't want to find out.
 
You think a referee being terrible at getting a decision right is the same as one actually changing a rule to suit tv audiences, the media and sponsors?

I mean, come on. He's allowed to change rules based on what he thinks at the time, apparently, is that a thing in football or any other sport?
Agree it's total BS and cannot see how you even need a rule book if this 'rule' is part of it. It's basically a general overrule clause.

I also get 'checked' in my day job and the people checking me are literally making the rules (as they go sometimes). I feel somewhat qualified to symphatise with Mercedes here :lol:
 
So going a bit off topic here. With the new rules for next season, will that help the other teams get closer to Mercedes and Red Bull or with the gap widen? Would love to see more than 2 teams competing for titles.

The new rules should make things pretty spicy but I would expect the field to get closer to Mercedes/Red Bull if I had to bet. Ferrari might be pretty strong considering they basically abandoned development in this year's car in preparation for next year.
 
Absolute joke of a circus.

Hamilton should have won that. I am still astonished hours on how they dealt with it.

People say that Verstappen won’t care - he will. Massive asterisk against his name in many people’s eyes for the foreseeable future. He had a phenomenal season, but that doesn’t dismiss the comeback Hamilton made to claw himself back into title contention and the drive he pulled off for 58 of the laps today before being the subsequent shitshow.
 
@pauldyson1uk is it too soon to start the 2022 season thread? Wouldn't mind one where we can discuss next season and the new regs etc and leave this seasons discussion and controversy in here.
 
This thread is like reading the RAWK thread when we won the CL in 08. You can actually see where all the salty Ham fans lose their collective shit when they realise that Ham and Merc have fecked it.

fecking glorious :lol: :lol:

And on top of that Toto pleading like a prison bitch on the Radio on that last lap. My god, stick it in my veins!!!
^Weird bloke.
 
People say that Verstappen won’t care - he will. Massive asterisk against his name in many people’s eyes for the foreseeable future. He had a phenomenal season, but that doesn’t dismiss the comeback Hamilton made to claw himself back into title contention and the drive he pulled off for 58 of the laps today before being the subsequent shitshow.

I can absolutely guarantee you that he won't give a shit.

He'll think about Baku and Silverstone and Hungary and think, karma.
 
I would argue that F1 stewards know the rules of F1 better then random guy on football forum

You'd think Denethor would know well enough the importance of allowing Frodo safe passage into Mordor as well. Sometimes stewards get it wrong!
 
It was glorious wasn't it :drool: What an end to an epic season.
We all thought it came down to the last race, who'd have thought it'd be the last lap
The tension on that last lap was unbelievable. An overtake on the last lap of the last race.

To finally have another team challenge Mercedes was great entertainment.

I can't wait till next year to see what way the grid lines up, and Russell next to Hamilton should be pretty interesting as well
 
This thread is like reading the RAWK thread when we won the CL in 08. You can actually see where all the salty Ham fans lose their collective shit when they realise that Ham and Merc have fecked it.

fecking glorious :lol: :lol:

And on top of that Toto pleading like a prison bitch on the Radio on that last lap. My god, stick it in my veins!!!

Agreed
 
Is it confirmed it goes to CAS? I reckon Lewis might actually not want that. Otherwise nice deflection from merc for the absolute shitshow of tactics tonight.
 
Let’s see what CAS decides. As far as I understand the rules it’s legal.

And you keep ignoring my question and point to you.

But yeah, you hide behind it being "legal" to change the rules at any time. Surely if you were actually a racing fan, you'd see that as farcical too? But of course not, your boy won.

I don't give a shit who won, I'm in awe of the talent of all the drivers. What I do give a shit about this is falling out of love with F1 years ago and now coming back to see it's got even more farcical. The "sport" has no integrity, no class. There's not even much real racing going on. Now we have grade-A weapons like Horner and Toto actually talking to the race director during the race, being offered deals on punishments and clearly influencing what happens. You have ridiculously complex rules that no one understands properly. And now you have blatant rule changing to suit the tv crowd and sponsors right at the end.

But yeah, apparently race fans loved that last lap. Even though it wasn't even a fair race. Go figure.
 
Is it confirmed it goes to a CAS? I reckon Lewis might actually not want that. Otherwise nice deflection from merc for the absolute shitshow of tactics tonight.

I think we have all just assumed that tbh I doubt Mercedes will make any decision on that today. I don't care about Max getting the title I just want Masi gone tbh.
 
Absolute joke of a circus.

Hamilton should have won that. I am still astonished hours on how they dealt with it.

People say that Verstappen won’t care - he will. Massive asterisk against his name in many people’s eyes for the foreseeable future. He had a phenomenal season, but that doesn’t dismiss the comeback Hamilton made to claw himself back into title contention and the drive he pulled off for 58 of the laps today before being the subsequent shitshow.

We'll add that same asterick next to Lewis 2020 title... oh and pretty much every title and win since 2014? You know since they clearly had an engine that was so far ahead of the pack it wasn't funny that even Williams looked half decent.
 
"A team is leading a final 2-0 and a injury takes place. The referee restarts the game with 1 minute to go, changes the score to 2-2 and says it restarts with the team that was losing having a penalty..."
The best you could come up with? Nonsense comparison to say the least.
 
Absolute joke of a circus.

Hamilton should have won that. I am still astonished hours on how they dealt with it.

People say that Verstappen won’t care - he will. Massive asterisk against his name in many people’s eyes for the foreseeable future. He had a phenomenal season, but that doesn’t dismiss the comeback Hamilton made to claw himself back into title contention and the drive he pulled off for 58 of the laps today before being the subsequent shitshow.

The WC isn’t about one race and there have been plenty of decisions that have gone both ways over the course of the season. So in that sense I don’t think Max will feel its tainted like you think
 
Is it confirmed it goes to CAS? I reckon Lewis might actually not want that. Otherwise nice deflection from merc for the absolute shitshow of tactics tonight.

CAS won't overturn the title winner anyway. They dont have the power to rule out a lap in an F1 race.

CAS will be more about Mercedes vs Masi, if it happens.
 
Not sure mate.
The damage is already done.

not true.
As they say there is no such thing as bad publicity.
The teams/ drivers did nothing wrong.
Mercedes/ Hamilton fans will cry for a while.

Truth is the stewarding of F1 has been a joke for a long time, its not a new thing.
I have been watching F1 since the days of James Hunt and this is the best season i can remember.

If things like this damage the Sport football is well and truly fecked with all the corruption and the like that goes on.

I cant wait for next season.