F1 2022 Season

dinostar77 said:
I would disagree, i like Baku and i love singapore. Both are street tracks. Obviously most famous of them all, monaco has its fans.

The original layout for miami gp looked amazing, but due to complaints from residents it got binned off and we ended up with a makeshift street track in the car park of the miami dolphins stadium.
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not a fan of baku it’s just 1 long straight.

singapore certainly is cool being the night race and the track isn’t bad, but not a lot of overtaking there either.

As you say these pop up circuits are never quite what they should be. it’s a cool idea but it’ll never be more than a gimmick.

Let’s hope the race turns out to be half decent but i’m expecting a drab affair.
 
dinostar77 said:
Miami layouts from original concept to where we ended up due to political opposition and local opposition to the race.

Original design going over a bridge and a harbour. Apparently was going to be visually stunning.

Revised design 2

Revised design 3

New location at Miami Dophins stadium and again design rejected by politics.
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The rejected tracks couldn’t be anymore American if they tried especially the 2nd one what’s better than one long straight a hairpin turn and a 2nd long straight and then a 3rd straight.
 
The track layout isn't too bad but they just haven't got the elevation, track surface and width right. With all the knowledge and technology in F1 you have to wonder how they make these mistakes but I guess time is always an issue on these projects.

The concrete barrier issues raised by Sainz and Ocon are interesting. Could be dangerous if fighting tomorrow.
 
Must go fast.....pee wan.....let's go..... Ferrari masterplan :devil: :devil:
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That older version of the current one would be a big improvement on this one with a different turn 1.

But the bigger problems are the surface and the bumps and the cambers and the narrowings. It's clearly a track that's been built without ever being tested.
 
I am not a fan of this track, shoehorning an F1 track into a carpark of a stadium is never a good idea.
I can see a very scrappy race , with multiple yellow and red flags.
I missed most of qualifying, due to thinking it was a 10pm start.
Mercedes failed to produce what it did the FP1 and 2, thought both would be in the fight in Q3.
Max cocking up his last hot lap, means a bit of work for him to do, could be an interesting first few corners.
SC's and how teams react could be the decider here.
 
George Russell insisted the inconsistency of the Mercedes "is not making a lot of sense" as he qualified a lowly 12th for the inaugural Miami Grand Prix.

"We are a bit confused to be honest," "My qualifying lap was slower than what I did yesterday in P2.

"The car felt completely different today, we were struggling with porpoising and we just couldn't attack any of the corners.

"It is a real shame because there was the potential in there and yesterday we were quick. It has massively gone away from us today and I don't really know why.

"It has just been a bit inconsistent to be honest.

I think the car clearly has speed, its the porpoising they need to sort out.
Cant be good for any driver to be bounce around they way the are.


Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff said tweaks made to the car overnight ultimately made it worse, but that "experiments" are helping the team to understand the cause of the porpoising.

"We have seen a performing car yesterday in P2 that was real," he told Sky Sports.

"We were able to put it in a sweet spot and today in P3 we were completely off with the experiments we did.

"It creeped a little bit off but it was still bouncing like a kangaroo, the drivers are not happy with it and you can see that is the reason we are off.

"We definitely have a better handling on what works and the slump today from yesterday helped.

"It is never one thing that is responsible for performance and non-performance but we had a good car yesterday afternoon, then we worsened it.

"Some things we understand, others not."
 
christy87 said:
The rejected tracks couldn’t be anymore American if they tried especially the 2nd one what’s better than one long straight a hairpin turn and a 2nd long straight and then a 3rd straight.
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If only there was a famous race circuit in florida that had a section for indycar and nascar that deviated from the oval. Oh yeah stupid me, of course there is. Daytona.

 
pauldyson1uk said:
George Russell insisted the inconsistency of the Mercedes "is not making a lot of sense" as he qualified a lowly 12th for the inaugural Miami Grand Prix.

"We are a bit confused to be honest," "My qualifying lap was slower than what I did yesterday in P2.

"The car felt completely different today, we were struggling with porpoising and we just couldn't attack any of the corners.

"It is a real shame because there was the potential in there and yesterday we were quick. It has massively gone away from us today and I don't really know why.

"It has just been a bit inconsistent to be honest.

I think the car clearly has speed, its the porpoising they need to sort out.
Cant be good for any driver to be bounce around they way the are.


Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff said tweaks made to the car overnight ultimately made it worse, but that "experiments" are helping the team to understand the cause of the porpoising.

"We have seen a performing car yesterday in P2 that was real," he told Sky Sports.

"We were able to put it in a sweet spot and today in P3 we were completely off with the experiments we did.

"It creeped a little bit off but it was still bouncing like a kangaroo, the drivers are not happy with it and you can see that is the reason we are off.

"We definitely have a better handling on what works and the slump today from yesterday helped.

"It is never one thing that is responsible for performance and non-performance but we had a good car yesterday afternoon, then we worsened it.

"Some things we understand, others not."
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Juan Pablo Montoya said he thought Mercedes have a extremely quick car, once they get the porposing resolved. I dont think Mercedes will abandon the concept though i do expect an engine upgrade of some kind to arrive under the "parity rule" for both Mercedes and Ferrari.

Its all alittle confusing. RB have a car that runs the least downforce and has least drag and with the powertrain is extremely quick on the straights.

Ferrari have a more rounded car albeit with low frequency porposing but it isnt as quick as RB in the straights, but might through medium hugh speed corners.

Mercedes are down on power on RB, not sure about if they are down on Ferrari in terms of HP. They have the best car for low speed corners but porposing is ruining everything else. So truly an unknown as to how quick it could really be if they could run it as low as they really wanted and without porposing.

Its going to leave the rest of the grid and the big three teams with huge questions for next season. Whos design philosophy is the correct one for next season? Low drag/highest straught line speed? All rounded car or extreme downforce car?

Dont think anyone knows, probably still too early to tell.
 
Superb video. Top body airflow. Ever wondered about words like outwash, ineash upwash and downwash? All explained in the video.

Mercedes this weekend have a new front wing and the endplates push the outwash further outside the car. This video explains how that works.

 
I really like these 8pm start times. I don't have to plan my day around the race. It allows me to get on with my day and watch it when I've settled in for the evening
 
F1 wouldnt work at Daytona. The banks are way too steep and the inner section is old, bumpy and narrow.
 
Race starts at half past the hour?
 
That chicane on the first lap or two should be interesting.
 
WeePat said:
I really like these 8pm start times. I don't have to plan my day around the race. It allows me to get on with my day and watch it when I've settled in for the evening
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Glad I read this. Thought the race was at 9 like qually. Then checked and found out it was actually 8.30. What is the point in starting at half past when no other race does.
 
I wish they'd stop trying to convince me that George Russell exists. I'm still not really buying that anyone outside of a movie nazi has a head as square as Coulthard, you're not getting this fecking Thunderbird past me as well.
 
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